Transcripts For CSPAN3 Politics Public Policy Today 2015020

CSPAN3 Politics Public Policy Today February 9, 2015

Take 15 minutes. Enjoy your break. The day long Education Forum hosted by republican senator tim scott from South Carolina is taking another break so the next panel can get in place. That third panel will include republican congressman luke masser of indiana. While we wait for it to get started, were going to show you a conversation on how americans view police. This is from this mornings washington journal. Were here to talk about a new poll on how communities are viewing law enforcement. The president in early march created this in early march the president s task force on 21st Century Policing will be delivering its report to the president. The president calling on put a group together to think of ways to better communities and policing. How challenging do you think that will be based on the poll . I think it will be extraordinarily challenging given the differences between plaques and whites and their views of the police overall. That task force is due to report in early march. What i decided to do atd ai with my colleagues is look at all the polls to see how they are viewed over time and how thats changed. What did you find out looking at the graphic put together, Top Institution in terms of trust. A great deal, quite a lot of confidence in police. Police get 52 compared to other institutes. Thats actually a pretty good rating. It hasnt changed much over time. What we look beneath is views of blacks and whites are very different in terms of having confidence with the police. What did you phoned out about that. Whites are much more confident than blacks. Its interesting to look at the National Data interesting to look at the state and local data and how people feel about the police an communities. They are generally a little more positive. Why is it . Whats behind numbers that whites tend to have more confidence in police . What did you find out . One of the things we looked at particularly was whether or not africanamericans face discrimination by police. Parents answered a question about this. They differed in responses, whites and blacks. They have moved closer together, more whites believe police discriminate against blacks. Also believe theres a gap between the races on that question. The recent situation like Michael Brown in ferguson and grand jury decision in new york what impact has that had . Certainly people followed those situations very, very closely. They followed events. Once again blacks and whites had very different views about this overall. There were more similarities in the eric garner case in new york city than there were about ferguson where whites and blacks looked like opposite ends of the spectrum involving grand jury decision. And how do views differ when it comes to Community Police versus this National Issue of policing. Looking at a poll about bankers in general and my banker, people were much more positive about their banker. Thats what weve seen in data pollsters have collected over time. People feel more confident about police in their community but theres still black and white gap. Explain that a little more. It almost seems like this would part of the task force solution. If the Community Knows their Police Officers, they are more likely to have confidence and trust in them. Absolutely. I think thats a very important point youve mentioned. People do believe more training of local police will be helpful in that regard. The police that walk the beat, most americans have confidence in Police Walking the beat in their local communities. So they need to address this overall. What kind of training . The kind of training the kind of things Public Opinion surveyed, whether or not police should wear video cameras and both whites and blacks think thats a very good idea, whether or not there should be special prosecutors. In cases where there is an event like happened in ferguson, yes, thats a good idea overall. Skeptical about mill tarization blacks and whites are concerned about the trend and think perhaps the National Guard and military should have these kinds of military weapons. So there are some areas of agreement that the polls are pointing to. What about this distrust coming from minority communities in how they what they see by Police Officers. A lot of criticism in the ferguson situation was what the police were wearing owned what they were doing and riot gear and militarization. How does that fuel lack of trust and confidence. Militarization in military uniforms or using military vehicles that just heightens concerns about the police in local communities and thats been especially true for africanamericans. Lets get the phone calls. Lines are lighting up. A fourth line set aside for law enforcement. Want to get your take on this as well. 2027488003. Well go to david first in albuquerque, new mexico, democratic caller. Good morning, david. Caller good morning. How are you doing . Good morning. Caller i have a comment and i kind of have a disregard for police. My reason for that is and its basically you can blame is on the media, because you know it seems to me like they put police on pedestals like they are better than anybody else. One instance of that is like whenever theres a cop thats shot, for instance, well then, they put everybody out in force looking for the murderer or whatever. If i get shot, that doesnt happen. So thats basically what my comment is. Okay. I think there is scepticism of the police for the reasons that you mentioned. I think that is something thats going to be that they will try to address with this task force on 21st Century Policing. Artie in new york. Hi, artie. Caller hello. Hello. Youre on the air. Go ahead. Caller my concerns are the western Lethal Weapon issue. Youve got police out there using stun guns, rubber bullets, tasers and not knowing the physical abilities or the extent of some of the victims they hit with these instruments do cause death. I mean, this is a Lethal Weapon. Why dont they clear the table for me to call what it is. Okay. My second point is the training that these police go through, okay take gardener in staten island. There were 10 policeman, not armed, nonviolent offense, selling cigarettes. Ten policeman put their Heads Together and decided the best course and outcome was for this man to be carried out on a stretcher and dead. Theres something wrong there. All right, artie. The caller did point to some of the things polls have revealed some of the weaponry Police Departments have been using. A poll that cbs did in december of 2014 83 of blacks and 61 of whites said that these weapons should be reserved for only military and National Guard. Again, there is agreement in that area overall. Why is that . Again, i think people think local Police Forces need to have certain weaponry. This increased use of military weapon has been made available as we learned from participation and work abroad. Just seems too much to americans overall. Then how Police Forces deal with confrontations and how they are being trained to handle them is another issue. This poll by cbs december 2014 most Police Officers need better training how to handle confrontations with civilians. Most Police Officers have the appropriate training in dealing with that already. What was the results of that . Again 85 of blacks and 59 of whites said both Police Officers need better training. I think thats what the caller is speaking to. You see majority of both groups, once again, big gap between black and whites. This issue will be addressed by White House Task force in 21st Century Policing. That group will release in early march to the president about what should be done, what sort of training should Police Officers get. We want to hear from all of you, what do you think . What sort of training should Police Officers get . How should this issue be handled . George in louisville, kentucky, democratic caller. Hi, george. Caller good morning. Maam, its not necessarily about training but my perception is what type of people are attracted to positions of authorities to begin w i think a lot of them might be good people. But i think underneath the surface, theres an emotional, psychological need for power over people. Its often narcissistic bullies that end up in these positions. Thats number one. Also the blue wall of silence. The next time a Police Officer testifies against a Police Officer in a court of law will be the first time. The next time a Police Officer confront a Police Officer about an altercation or verbal disagreement between Police Officer and citizen, next time they take up for a citizen against a Police Officer will be the first time. They will not go after their own. Other than that, i think grand juries are just prosecutorial misconduct prosecutors are not going to go after Police Officers they are a branch of. This contributes to my personal trust. I have been lied on police reports. I do see this as much of a problem. Thank you very much. Okay. Your point about the kind of people who are attracted to the job, actually several pollsters have asked questions about this. Would you approve of your children onor future children becoming Police Officers. Interestingly 60 of whites say they approve 43 of blacks. This is a question asked by reuters in a december 2014 issue. Another pollster asked whether or not a child think about as future profession 60 said they would want a child to think about becoming a Police Officer as a future profession. Its not the most highly ranked profession when people asked about it. An engineer, doctor, rank higher overall, Police Officers are above members of Congress Actors union leaders. Showing our viewer, engineer, doctor scientist. They are on top of the list of what parents would like to see children choose as their profession. Next to that, Police Officers rank after journalists but before bankers and farmers and priests. Athletes real estate broker, stockbroker, entertainer, member of congress coming in their last. Union leader actually union leader coming in last for future professions. Al in boston, go ahead. Independent caller. Hi al. Caller good morning. Very interesting since now the fbi did their investigation that the media has been very quiet on this ferguson thing. How come the question isnt about the media potentially inciting this country over the ferguson issue. Like many people have said, there are many, many black on black crimes. How come thats not brought up. Why, ferguson . Why . I wonder to incite the country before an election because we have a black president . Okay. What about the role of the media . Certainly many polls in the Public Domain about the media and people are very skeptical about the media these days. They think sensationalism. Michael brown led to that in ferguson, missouri, overall. There certainly are questions polsters ask about media and an enormous amount of scepticism. What about role of government in funding the Police Communities, giving Police Communities resources. What are people saying about that . Do they feel that is money well spent . I think they do feel money well spent and thats one of the issues the task force is going to be addressing, that is the amount of money available to police for the kind of training. Robert, st. Louis, missouri, independent caller. Hi, robert. Caller hey how are you doing . Good morning. Caller hey i really like cspan. Id like to say your last guest, the Washington Bureau chief, he mentioned something about benghazi and there were a bunch of cia guys ready. They are not military. So i just wanted to save the embarrassment for cspan. That guy didnt really know much about what he was talking about. In terms of ferguson, i used to live there. I live in the st. Louis city proper city limits currently and i used to get stopped by police all the time through the county. White guys. Thats what they do. If youre young guys they are going to harass you because they think and actually we are up to adventurous things a lot of times. I dont think its so much about race as it is about young people young males. If there were a lot of young white guys, they would be harassing them as well. Its unfortunate what happened. Its unfortunate about the Police Officer and the young man. Okay. Michael brown. Okay, robert. Okay. I think the caller makes a good point about young people in particular and police being particularly sensitive to the activities of young people. In this case it ended tragedy. Do polls bear that out . Young versus older how they view police. We havent looked at the differences overall. I suspect they are some. Big differences stand out with racial gaps on all these questions. Ohio, democratic caller. Go ahead roger. Caller good morning. I just want to ask one thing, how in the world can you justify a man being choked to death for selling cigarettes outside a store . And then the white jury, or whatever, when they took the case in they didnt even prosecute the police. How in gods name is this fair in thats all i want. Okay. Lets get to that question of how people view it, the policing of police as a punishment of police. Absolutely. Thats a good point overall. Certainly if you look at the polls on the eric garner situation in new york city whites and blacks were closer together about that situation overall. That does raise the question. It does concern americans, particularly africanamericans, about Police Practices overall. No question about it. How does that break down . Take a look at the poll, a verdict on the grand jury decision. As you may know a grand jury has decided not to bring criminal charges against white Police Officer in ferguson, missouri answer some questions. Ive got some questions. I didnt leave my spot the entire time we were gone. Ill tell you what what a bright group of kids with very important questions about their future. One of the things i like answering questions, your questions have to do with where you are, where youre going and how to get there. So i really do appreciate the questions. First question comes from jay yates. Will you stand up . Im going to acknowledge who asked the question. [ applause ] i would like shorter answers which is not necessarily my standpoint, jay. Ill give short answers so i can get to a couple questions so the panel can get started. Then ill come back at 3 15 and answer more requests if you have them. If you were younger today in society would your view on School Choice be any different . I would tell you if i were your age today looking at the world as you see it from my current Vantage Point im going to take my 50 years of experience, almost, september this year, praise the lord, and go back to how old are you . 16. 16. Jay is the one that led us in the pledge. All that experience in 16 years and look forward, School Choice would be one of the things that i would get strongly involved in for one reason. I think School Choice really opens doors. It opens doors to the American Dream in ways that very few other doors can open until the door of education is open. So if i were your age, i would be very excited about the choice option in education, and i would take advantage of it fully. Some of the schools i went to i went to four Elementary Schools right . You did, too. I cant tell you all four of my Elementary Schools were good. I dont think they were. They werent. People tried hard, im sure. I needed to find the right environment for me. Im not sure you found the right environment for you. I hope you have. I can tell you if youve been to four different schools like i have been, youve been to some schools youre happy to leave. Take advantage of where you are. Listen, there are no quick fixes in life. Almost everything that we want to do that is going to lead to amazing success requires a four letter word. Work. Work. Second question, lametra had a question on attitudes. How do you overcome bad attitudes. I was telling her earlier, one of my mentors i knew met him twice, zig zeigler. Those of us who are older we know zig zeigler. Everybody over age 20, shake your head at me. Thats good. Zig zeigler taught people like me was the necessity of overcoming stinking thinking a bad attitude. Oftentimes what they used to say is that success is 90 attitude. So make sure that you surround yourself with people who will encourage a positive attitude because stingking thinking will bring you down and reduce the level of your expectation. A low level of expectation leads to a low level of performance. Another question by victory. Is victory here . Will you stand up, victory and let everybody know who you are . [ applause ] these questions are real questions, which are sometimes you have to take a step back when someone asks a good question. All questions have been good. This one is particularly good as well. Victorys question was how do

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