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CSPAN3 Telecommunications July 5, 2024
It. Thank you administrator. Obviously broadband, thats the foundation of it but as we are looking at other options, very important so we are utilizing all technologies and advancing new technologies, too. Thanks for being here today, i yield back. Thank you. The gentleman yields. We are now going to take a short, very short recess. I ask that members remain seated so we can convene very shortly. Thank you very much. My [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] ayokay folks. [inaudible conversations] thank you thank you mr. Davidson. The chairman recognizes the gentleman from florida, mr. Kohler rakas 545 minutes. Thank you mr. Chairman, i appreciate it much. As you know, states are in the process of submitting their draft initial proposals to your agency for review and approval before beginning to run their state programs. One requirement ntia injected was a requirement for state players to address middleclass affordability. Hearing the secretary raimondos promise in a Senate Hearing do not regulate rates in the ii ja clear prohibition on regulation when you commit to not approve plans that will either directly or indirectly regulate rates. Mr. Davidson, thats a question for you. First of all, thanks for the question. We know affordability is in the statute. Bipartisanship, the importance of affordability, wilson over going to spend billions of dollars of federal money and people are going to have that money, they are asking about affordability when they do so. And tia we are not gauging that rate regulation. Thank you. [ laughter ] clearly as bedroom, this means we need to have the institutes and spread the resources as efficiently as possible. What tools should we consider to consider federal agencies are considering the use of spending . Because thank you for the question, its incredibly valuable and scarce resource, making sure that we are all using it carefully is extremely important. I think congress can help in many ways, doing what it has been doing, to make sure we are using it spectrum wide, and continue to to push spectrum wide legislation,ha to among other things, authorizing the ability of the fcc to do spectrum auctions, with the spectrum authority. With that fund, some of the other ones that are the toolkit, we will help make sure we all have the right incentive to use it wisely to reallocate it and the pace of it in the right place. Thank you. In your experience, federal uses, asked to when the ntia is utilized for spectrum use . T the ones that are making i so valuable for the private sector also make it quite valuable for the public sector. It did not surprise anybody that federal spectrum users feel that their use of the spectrum is quite important. And those missions are incredibly valuable, we have to work carefully together and we have worked collegially with our brother and the other federal agencies to make sure that we have that caught looking at that spectrum, the president ial memorandum that just came out, critical documents because they show they really make it clear how we are going to examine spectrum Going Forward and where we are going to look for those opportunities. And the place we should havent that process for those studies. Essentially the memorandum, it requires ntia, with views on the spectrum matters, to be sure the views are adequately represented. And what steps are you personally taking to build trust among other federal agencies to ensure these process reforms and if you can expand on that. Speakers sure, incredibly important question,au we need t work with these, in many cases, they are very important, and with the weather. We want to make sure that agencies can meet their mission, but also know that we have to be more efficient with how we use them, we have worked quite closely. In a lot of cases, its sitting down with the agency heads, understanding their needs and helping them understand we are all on the same side here, and it has worked well in many cases since ive been on board, developing collegial relations with our spectrum heads and these other agencies, with that coordination of support. Expired, representative custer. Thank you for being with us, it is clear that ntia has been busy since you are last before this committee a few months ago, and i want to commend you and your staff, starting with the announcement of state funding allocations for the program, New Hampshire will receive nearly 197 million to build out broadband infrastructure and make sure everyone can connect with the internet. This is a huge investment, real money where i come from, were going to need all hands on deck to fill out the network, joining my colleagues, a letter requesting that ntia provide alternative programs and requirements to allow for greater provider while saving taxpayer dollars, i appreciate the announcement of alternatives, for the small rural providers to participate in this new program and serve the communities they know best. Just last week, issued announcements for the wireless plan, and science, research and development supported to help secure the wireless network, especially please for 2 million awarded to a company in my district in New Hampshire working on 5g technology, the importance of the wireless funds and the Grant Program will help to further our nations 5g and wireless communication goals. Thank you and congratulations, a very competitive Grant Program to make the award. And just generally, the Wireless Innovation Fund is so important for competitiveness. Right now there are very few providers of wireless mobile networks, its a very collocated market, and to be honest, some of those are not trusting the provider, and when you take them off the table there are really only two or three, were trying to do is promote more openness and resilience in 5g, by creating an open network and supporting open networks and again the way you do this, how can we act as a catalytic attachment catalyst for the Innovation Fund to Fund Research and testbeds and help companies create a more open ecosystem, and what we are expecting is that it will make it possible for smaller companies, a variety of companies, in this market, i did a few big companies, were excited about the process. Is so much. The cochair of 5g and beyond, are excited about these innovations, we can advance the nations wireless and Communications Goals until we find ways to better manage our spectrum resources. Ntia has been test with the responsibility of establishing a National Strategy that will help develop the future spectrum fund, the final report is not due until 2025 and we can continue to wait until other countries and determine very spectrum bands, other opportunities to free up additional spectrum for use while we wait for the National Strategy . Let me start by saying we completely agree, we need to make sure were meeting the needs and in the leadership role weve had in wireless innovation. And with all the different kinds of spectrum uses its incredible and of paramount importance. We need to have both mid to longterm strategy and also a shortterm strategy, and what youre seeing in the National Spectrum strategy is looking ahead, multiyears, were do we need to go . In the meantime i will note that the chairwoman was here, last week, she noted that we actually do have some nearterm targets, these are both incredibly important, they are ready for example, the upper 12 gigahertz, what we are looking at, some low band spectrum that the commission is looking at, and thats why its so important to get Spectrum Auction Authority going again, i know im preaching to the choir here but its important so that we can start to move out on the nearterm auctions even as we are doing the studies, and wanda cearley take that but as we move out on near term and longterm targets. Very helpful. I wanted to shift gears quickly on the work, the ntia task force on health and safety. Addressing Online Safety is a top priority of mine, parents are concerned about what their children may encounter online, and helping to protect children online, and eventually protecting them. Very quickly ill just say usually important issue, and we are delighted to be cochairing the task force. A homework assignment to get that worked on by next summer and were going to be looking at things that are not about putting the onus on parents, and the family members and caregivers, you are in charge of this. To make something possible as well. The gentle ladies time is expired, now recognizing you for five minutes of questioning. Thank you chair, administered of davis. And when they appeared before the subcommittee last week, they asked if the commission would be able to meet the spectrum pipeline act of 2015, and the statutory requirement to identify 30 megahertz of spectrum for auction by summer of 2024, and the response was quite troubling. She stated that she could not hear as ntia had not completed its statutory obligation of delivering a report by january 2022. Tran15s 2023 annual report, at ntia and other agencies are still studying this band, i understand they are complex and technical studies, and that federal users have Important Missions that depend on access to spectrum, but the administration began studying the spectrum in 2017. Were approaching seven years of study, ntia has already blown past the january 2022 statutory deadline by two years next month. How many more years would you like to give spectrum and will another seven years be enough . Congressman, i appreciate the question, seriously as appeared to be hard. A hard expensive requirement. Passed in 2015, well before i started in the rule. The study ongoing for some time. You know, were hoping to be able to release the conclusions of that, for the clearance process, i would just say i dont think its going to be the answer that we had hoped for. And finding a path forward, in this study, to be able to meet those requirements. Millions of dollars going into that, at the time, should not negate the whole thing but bottom line is, it is done, we can expect that. And im hoping that it will. And i raise all of this to illustrate why myself and others on this committee, the National Spectrum strategy, i think youre going to have to do something to assure us that you are serious about what is getting done. And failing to commit for every megahertz of spectrum. Even in this example, congress had special statutory requirements of freeing of the spectrum, the Biden Administration misses them in favor of more study. Very concerned about draft volume one of michigans initial proposal. And could take a broader view, of underserved locations as it looks to distribute money, for example, and underserved all of the locations, and placing it on the national map where speed tests show is maturely below 100 downstream in 20 upstream. And also consider undisturbed those locations were fixed wireless is the only technology with that criteria. Im very concerned about this proposal. It is not tech neutral, and will lead to overbuilding and ignores the broadband map. I understand that you rejected ohios proposal, and having similar problems, im not one that likes to lose to ohio. In a strange way after the past few years are not used to either. [ laughter ] will you commit to also rejecting the proposal, if it continues to include those . I parachute i appreciate the question, doing is much as possible. Do the right thing. And i cant really answer the question without seeing the totality of what theyre proposing and what they might be working on. I will say there good reason why the states have tried in some situations to work with him, the statute allows them, to make these changes that they come up with, with their own challenge about that and figure out where theyre going to spend the money. The question is really making sure that these maps are as accurate as possible and truly absurd and they truly are served, it is key. And i will say i will reiterate our commitment for the program, a focus on the unserved and underserved, in that order and basically the intent of the statute, to focus on those areas first, that we are working. Will keep watching. And the outcome, for my state, my you back. The gentlemans time is expired and the 33rd district for five minutes of questions. Thank you mr. Chairman. Thank you for being here today, shortly after the testimony, before the committee in may, the administration announced a nearly 42. 5 billion in broadband and with the access and the employment fun, going to be allocated among states and territories. I wanted to ask, you probably already know the text, highest allocation at 3. 3 billion in the fund, far outweighing any other state, given the vastness of the diversity, can you elaborate on how these funds will help urban hubs like vfw as well as the rural areas. Absolutely. We are very excited about what is going on with the program and the opportunity it offers, no bigger challenge than texas right, the largest set of allocations coming out of todays program and the program, over 3 billion, it reflects the tremendous need that we know is out there, thousands and thousands of unserved homes that are affected. We are confident with the funding that texas will have, both through our program and other federal programs, the state stepping up with its own program, we will be to make sure that everyone is connected with high speed and affordable internet service. Other programs we are implementing as well, our Digital Program and others that also will make sure in texas as well as access, these are programs that are going to make it possible and again texas will have that digital plan, for adoption and not just access. And the oversight hearing, and with the lead programs like your home and internet pilot program, and the acp navigator pilot program. On the acp, however as you mentioned in a previous conversation, the connection doesnt necessarily guarantee that families are going to thrive. And they wont be able to be a part of the ecosystem. And responding to the digital act and inclusion in the bipartisan infrastructure law. And after states succeed in helping communities deal with the digital competency, schools are learning about these things in the classroom, but how about the work that still really needs to be able to acquire new opportunities in this area where Digital Skills are required . Figure Digital Equity axis is important piece of the puzzle here, if we can build a connection to somebodys home, if they can afford the connection it is not that useful, even if they can afford the connection and they dont have the skills or tools or devices to get online, all of this work is for naught, so the axis is important to make sure it gives communities the tools and funding, and devices, to reach that, seniors and veterans, people in Rural Communities, make sure they have the skills and actually five online. And every state in the country will have a Digital Equity plan by the First Quarter of next year this winter. And will be putting out a next round of funding as well. Absolutely, i wanted to switch over really fast, in what ways does the National Spectrum strategy support good jobs and foster a Diverse Workforce that can meet the spectrum challenges make sure the u. S. Continues to lead in wireless innovation and Technological Advancement . First off, our main goal here is to make sure that we are promoting so that the u. S. Remains a leader in wireless innovation, they will enable us to continue the wireless innovation, creating new kinds of industries and new jobs and new uses of spectrum. Also something very specific that we are trying to do in the National Spectrum strategy. To build that out, we need more engineers and scientists, and people in industry and technology, on spectrum, i cant all be about ai, and engineers, and the leader around the world. And investing in that strategy. Thank you. And 13th district, five minutes for questions. The ranking member, and secretary davidson, for that, the Current Administration has been tempted to regulate the internet, the utilities for a long period of time, as you heard just last week, the most recent example of this has been the reinstatement of Net Neutrality rules under title ii by the fcc. We must not go down this path of rate regulation, not only understand that we need a free market, but we need the innovation, for my rural constituents, who ultimately might not be able to receive internet access, these would be utility style regulations. Mr. Davidsson. Im concerned that the affordability requirements, and the pressure that ntia is placing on states to include affordability requirements in their estate plan will result in rate regulation which is contrary and will wind up causing the program to ultimately fail. Will you still please reassure this commitment that ntia will not encourage or otherwise attempt to assign specific price caps, to any broadband tear, and specified period of time or otherwise regulate the price of anything for middle class affordability plans in order to gain tran15s approval . Congressman, thank you for the question, and the statute is very clear that we are not doing rate regulations. Thats important to me in the committee. I thank you for that. Will you commit further that if any state, including price caps in rate reasons freezes or any other regulation, will be rejected by ntia, approving such a plan, ntia is you just stated would be violating the regulation, on broadband regulation . Bigger we have given states a tremendous amount of flexibility about how they want to implement these rules especially around the options, the statutes and the bible bipartisan infrastructure law, ensuring that providers have a lowcost option, giving states a lot of flexibility in terms of how they implemented and some of them will choose them, all choosing different ways to do it, our expectation is that we are going to embrace the laboratory of democracy, in different ways, now setting the price and tia, not setting the National Price for broadband. Even if it went out the ntia express oversight, price regulation should not be part of any rollout, as well. Argues that different states will approach it. Ntia is not going to set a rate. Does it worry you that can jeopardize the success of the programs and leave millions of americans, my concern is rural pennsylvania, where i represent those americans without internet access, is not an infringement, and if not, why not . We dont think it is an infringement, i understand the questions, and approaching in different ways, again nobody is required to be part of this program, it is a federal Funding Program got setting going to dollars of federal money, and seems quite reasonable that in return for receiving the federal funds, that different places will take different ways but they need to have a lowcost option, theyre going to see different approaches of how they do that, and we are giving that a bunch. What you think yun ntia has the requirements to impose requirements like these, and is nowhere to be fund found, and as you publicly stated, bridging the Digital Divide . We think it supports the goals and not requiring states to say or set a particular price for broadband, different states can do it different ways as a condition of getting federal money, we think they will be able to meet their goals and doing a way that allows that. Without price requirements one way or another. We are not required to set a particular plan. Do you agree that they reach that term to participate and experienced providers ultimately wasting the 42. 5 billion deed fund . Bigger we think there are billions of dollars being spent here and we think that providers, and we know, weve talked to them who can provide the service, and low income families, giving them a low cost option. Mr. Chairman, my time has expired and i yield. Thank you very much, the chair now recognizes the gentleman from california 29th district. Thank you. The ranking member, for holding the hearing i want to thank mr. Davidson for being here and if informing the American People and answering our questions. One of the questions, and to see it more as spending billions are investing billions in the community . This is an investment, a giant investment in the equity and fairness in our society. Thank you, is a democrat i am very sensitive when people think that we are just throwing money around these communities, thank you for clarifying that. I would try to cover a few issues today, the committee discussed the important rule of the american connectivity program, the success of the program, and they do better when the acp is on firmer fitting. We are still stirring down the potential lab, for acp this spring. The uncertainty with the funding and the program, and how we might expect it there, being submitted in the and cia currently . Quite concerned about the future, because it is so essential for the success of our bigger goal, making sure we are building that, connecting everyone on line. And as i said as you rightly point out, there is a real connection here, and dont make sure that, low income families getting online, we wont have customers and the networks that are being built, so this investment will become more expensive. So we are already seeing that concern, sing the most important thing that congress can do to support the build out and connect everybody in america is to support the program and make sure of that. I want to discuss issues related to spectrum, and the spectrum strategy which calls for additional studies, five specific spectrum brands, can you describe in detail how that spectrum strategy will make it more available for commercial wireless use . Can you speak to the importance of congress fully funding it through this . Ntia . Bigger one of the most important things we were able to do in the National Spectrum strategy, a lot of spectrum for future study, and we need to make sure we do something for those studies. And making sure we have the resources to do it is really important. Thank you, hoping come to an agreement on fully funding ntia appear, leslie october, with the order, developing with the coordinated approach, being responsible and developing as well. How do you see the technology being deployed when it comes to spectrum, between federal and nonfederal operations. And the eight possibilities, and help them with more official use. And the understanding of how it is being used. And they could help us in managing spectrum and developing the policy. Theres a lot to be done, and the own issues and uses of ai to make sure we are being efficient, ultimately part of how spectrum has done the dynamics and sharing these systems, we are very excited about investing in the. Ai is definitely exciting, and is definitely changed the world, and it already has, more compounded in the near future. Im very pleased to hear it, looking to utilize it, to the best of your abilities to benefit the American People. And the importance to not only have the individuals across the country but the entire planet, i cant stress enough what we have been doing over the last years under the Biden Administration and when the democrats were in control of the house and senate, we were able to invest and invest across america, and when it comes to spectrum its about as critical as anything, again spectrum wasnt something that people talked about 30 or 40 years ago, but is here to say stay, to get children to have access to learning and small and big businesses can grow, these are the kinds of things that are important for us and thats why weve done all the great things weve done moving forward. Were looking forward to people of america benefiting from it. Thank you very much. I yield. The gentleman yields back out recognizing for five minutes for questions. Thank you mr. Chairman, thank you assistant secretary davidson for being here today. I recently met with a electric coop in ohio that covers much of my district, when i asked them if they would be trying to expand the Network Broadband buildout, they told me no. At first i was surprised to hear this, its an opportunity for every provider that every provider should be excited about. I was told the funding makes it less appealing and the specific provider and many across the nation already own Expansive Network of utility and they require them to simply run the fiber to their existing pole, theyre not interested in expanding broadband to Rural Communities with these dollars, and the agency would require them to conduct an Environmental Review on every single utility pole they run fiber through. Keep in mind that they already exist and have been in the ground for years. It seems a great way to keep Rural Electric costs in accessing dollars, can you explain to me why a environment a review for polls that have been in the ground for years is necessary . First of all let me just start by saying we know were only going to do this if we get all hands on deck for this project, and we want a variety of providers like providers youre talking about as part of this program, we want to try to be part of that. I want to hear about that specific project, and that cost directly about it, the environmental pursuit youre talking about, the hope project there and the permitting processes, and streamlining them, and like to see whether there are possibilities that we can do that with these programs. For fiber that we are talking about. Would you support congressional actions that would allow for grant favors and circumstances were providers are using systems to build out networks . I need to understand the specifics of that, but there is a hope permitting scheme to make sure how we can streamline those types of things. A number of projects that will likely require that, and reviewed timelines being extended, with these volume reviews and what your plan is to expedite the Environmental Review process . And its really an important issue that weve known, its not here yet, the program coming and going to be here and we have heard from industry, weve heard from a lot of stakeholders in this environment that one of the big challenges we will face is that timeline. Were really eager to do what we can. Focusing first and foremost on the federal pieces, because that is what is under our control, with the federal Land Management agencies a do a lot of this, what the timeline looks like in the heat map, we are also working with states to make sure their broadband plans can come through. Thank you. A final question, as you can imagine, demand for broadband technicians is developing quickly, if we want networks to be done quickly the pipeline will be required. Requiring funds to be used for workforce development. Jubilee variable to do it as part of the proposals to the ntia and what we do to make sure the requirements are all addressed . Bigger a terrific point, we know that one of the giant challenges of doing the build outs as the workforce, do we have over 100,000 new jobs. We make sure, and this is a huge opportunity, Training Programs in ohio, to be training the workforce, knowing the jobs are coming. Requiring this plan and we have a team that is looking at every plan specifically to see what those Network Plans look like, 800 million going to the state of ohio, we are hopeful that we have the planning component. And working on the senior staff. Yielding back in the chair recognizes the gentle lady, for five minutes. Thank you chairman. I want to thank the secretary for the testimony today, ntia programs making that for expanding broadband to have access, and the use of spectrum. Taking on new responsibilities. And specifically in addition to taking some of the policies, with executive orders one ai and ntia is launched across the continent , and without causing harm. The assistant secretary, i think its critical, we have ai accountability, and introducing the ai accountability act. It has been improved by this one, on a 500 vote, ntia conducting a study in conversation with stakeholders, one ai a kontos Accountability Measures and systems, and are there any policies that you would expect or need for that development for the assessment, the mechanism to build the ai accountability system. Thank you for the question, and we are quite interested in the question, ai is driving so many important decisions a way to make sure that the system directly working the way that they were intended or the way they say they will work. For example, a new Machine Learning system, keeping the data private and is secure and not biased, and helping to make sure that is true, and a project we are already hard at work on, and a request for comment, on these issues, how to reassess ai systems looking there and how we do audits. And the financial audits and accounting system, how do we make for Financial Statements for ai audit capability, tremendous number, 1400 comments and working through them, switching it will be in the winter, with the federal government can do both to support and fund and working the space and ultimately be very engaged to make sure they are in the system. Another issue that is dear to me, millions of americans, so many of my colleagues are no stranger to the gun violence epidemic. Just this morning the Washington Post reported the record for the highest number with the gun and former victims were killed, the Network Authority in the first net authority, by the agency, an Important Role in the ability to react. The communications network, the Emergency Responders in the Public Safety community, your written testimony mentions that authority, 5 million connections evidence that demand continues to grow, for these emergency services, what are they doing in that authority, all the resources we need to meet the growing demand . So glad you mentioned it, it has been a real Public Private partnership. The network we work with that authority, making sure theyve got connectivity for the first responders, and is incredible, over 5,000,001st responders are on the network, for seven years, did not exist, 27,000 Fire Departments in police departments, Public Safety agencies are now signed up to be part of that, making sure its a drive, its a high priority, continuing to support the dynamic new leadership. And one thing congress can do is making sure we authorize that, we will have to do that by 2027 and we wont have to wait, its really succeeding. Via a hurricane in the flood, they are there to help the first responders. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. And the chair now recognizes five minutes for questions. Thank you mr. Chairman. Thank you for being here today. Deserter, and i like to follow up on that. Permitting a state to regulate yes or no . We are giving states a lot of flexibility about how they approach these. So yes. Depends on what you mean by rate regulation, and flexibility at the low cost option and. The frontiers report, 37 gigahertz band presents a number of opportunities, existing federal uses that need protection. No existing nonfederal operations, and 7 years ago, seven years later, the National Spectrum strategy, worth additional study, united states, and the spectrum. The same bands over and over. And the National Spectrum study will be reallocated. Really quite essential. And providing that pipeline and on the global state with china and others. When you say you are leading, priority one, where are they on a priority list . Weve been given a deadline. A lot of debates are across the federal government, open for commercial use, the National Spectrum strategy contemplates studying the band, the past report completely closed the door on it, inclusion of the three gigahertz band, and a recognition, problems with the passing report, why did you include the band and the National Spectrum strategy . And on the report, we felt this band was too important to give up on. And lower three gigahertz studies that they produce, very specific question, could we do it right now the answer is no. Right now they do not see a way forward in that, we think their Technical Work in that area is strong. However a limited study, and what would it take to share, and the question of if we had funding to real relocate the systems, could we use in that study . And the only labor requirement. And certified, and the employment laws, and and tia fo, entered a laundry list adopting including the prevailing wages, project labor agreements, and union fee agreements. Are your attempts to add these labor provisions a way to overturn or evade state law . No sir, our belief is that the only labor requirements were putting in our compliance with federal law. You realize that george is a right to work state . Figure of course, thats why we wrote at the way that we did to respect and acknowledge that there are states that have different approaches, and if you look carefully at it, theres no surprise that a illustration that cares about labor, weve been careful about that. We know what the administration is doing to the workforce out there. There are dozens of states and state law, specifically preventing project labor agreements, accepted the investment acceptance of the pla, requirements without privacy for state law or the eligibility rules, there are numerous studies showing that the union labor provisions most recent studies in 2020 and 2021, increasing Construction Costs of 41 five up to 20 . My livelihood was made in the Construction Business before i came to congress, i know if you drive up the cost of labor then constructions construction cumings will suffer and that is passed on to the taxpayers, have the ntia conducted analysis to see how many further unserved ones will be connected . I dont have any of that particular kind of data, our belief is that these are not programs that should be driving up costs. Where is the accountability . The chairmans time has its about gentlemens time has expired rex meeker i was having so much fun. Thank you. Some followup questions i would like to add. Gentlemens time has expired, recognizing the gentleman from california. Let me thank you mr. Chairman, and are ranking members, for holding this important hearing, it is wonderful to see you, it always is. Thank you. I want to compliment you on answering numbers directly, in a very direct way, if there is anyone watching this hearing from home, what you say is understandable, and excitement across the country about what is going to be taking place in the community, so bravo to you. Two quick things, this is 22 million americans that unless Congress Funds the program, a letter says you no longer have any internet. And i think it is important for each member of the committee to know who is in their and in the Congressional District, that are going to be cut off this is a responsibility of congress. Not some novel factoid. 22 million americans is a lot of people. Can you do that, can you advise each member of the committee how many constituents they have that will lose their connection unless this is funded . We have a lot of that data, and important to point out, 2. 7 million households in california. Not going to work on that. A terrific point and the key points, 22 million households distribute all across the Congressional District a lot of them are in rural areas, and only going to succeed in the broadband doled out. Thank you. National spectrum policy, and the whole of government approach in developing good partnerships with your brothers and sisters. I noticed the only thought today so far. And if you dont agree with an agency, who has a final say so . Ultimately we are all creatures of the administration, in our documents now in the president ial memorandum, revolt resolving those kind of questions. I see. And ntia is there. On the public accountability, when can we expect to see that report . First quarter of next year. Okay. You know the most important resource in the development of ai are good data, Computing Power and people. And almost today, controlled by the technology firms. And creating the ai act, youre familiar with it, including both sectors having access to these resources i believe we really need to democratize ai so that innovators across all sectors and some sixers aspects some sectors we have many, they will be able to work with it. Tell us why you think it is important. Transforming the economy, a hugely important thing, with the benefits with the risks of it. As you delightfully say it, in the hands of a few. And researchers all over the country, they have access to these tools. As you say, there is Data Available and its going to be a critical piece, thank you for raising it and for your long term leadership for these issues. Youre always welcome here, thank you for your superb leadership. The witness right now, going through one witness. Recognizing the gentleman from texas. Thank you mr. Chairman. I authored a letter a please to see the nti, the letter of credit on the program. And hinging on the service providers, and i hope at this point you will consider the flexibility to the requirements and accountability and fairness, my specific question is, the waiver, a good step in the right direction, if they take it out right in the outset, with all the waiver requests based on the risks associated with the strategy. Absolutely working with the states and their request. And raising it, and weighing in on this, exactly the right way, implementing the program. And got to be accountable. We want to have the broadest set of people and if you dont get it right we are committed to reevaluating it just as we did in that letter of credit and say we need to change the rules here. And the committee, Top Priorities across all industries. And the tracking act and others, and tied up in red tape. Streamlining the permitting process. Incredibly important question, we know we are not going to succeed if we put out all of this money and we know its one of the top ones, and the deplores and providers of the net work. Were trying to work with the federal government first and foremost. And permitting group, and the agencies, new resources with bigger permitting. And working with the landuse agencies managing a lot of the federal permitting, they are aware of it, make sure they have the resources quickly with the process. With the parts that we can control. Thank you. National spectrum strategy, the administration released it, looking at several pieces and parts of this, identifying that, and single megahertz of spectrum for auction. And National Security set and a commercial side, they have the metrics when it comes to the strategy in identifying and allocating that, for the spectrum, and specifically what we have in place to make sure the goals are reached. Very quickly we share the goal, and freeing up and creating the pipeline, i will say we need to make sure we are doing it smartly. All of them have uses, if we dont look carefully, how we move systems or where the sweet spot is, and committed quickly and make sure all the time about their needs, that is the metric. When you look at the study, the lower three, and it can be shared, and agreed upon, is there a timeline, do you have a timeline . We do have a timeline for sharing and relocating with more space. One of the concerns ive had, having worked in all of the spectrum areas, and and the secretary of commerce in september, we still havent seen the top of this, last week the chairwoman said they had not seen the report, we do see a report of this and when are you planning on briefing them. And when can we expect them to be there. Any day now is the short answer. And before the hearing, i did not happen with staff, and as soon as we can. Thank you. Gentlemens time has expired, and i ask all members who can remain seated, very quickly