Course the fiscal cliff and negotiations, how are they going. How unpopular are the republics. Then we go to zero dark 30. Mccain and republicans are mad at the scenes in the movie. Theyre not your friend. Theyre not going to help you. Were going to break you. Any questions . Cenk damn, that sounds harsh. All right well talk about you fracking how the bankers got away with it. Finally should a transgender woman be allowed to play basketball in a Womans League . Interesting. Even though there might be a Million People telling them no, dont do it, follow your heart. We didnt think about her being a transsexual. Shes 67. Who doesnt want that . Well discuss the end of the world. Did it end in sydney . We will have a live shot. Its not only go tile. At the end of the show, well find out if its stop time. Go. [ theme ] cenk all right the whole crews here. Anna ben michael and we were discussing a little politics here in the beginning. First of all let me give you guys awesome poll. Is the gop too extreme. That would only be 53 of all americans saying yes, in fact 22 of republicans say the party is too exveal. Those are really strong words and they certainly had it coming. Meanwhile, theyre working on an extreme plan right now trying to pass plan b. Which has nothing to do with contraception, obviously they would be against that. It has to do with taxes and the socalled fiscal cliff. Their proposal, they say for people making more than a Million Dollars well go back to the clinton era rates, 35 to 39 . Capital gains goes from 15 to 20 . Of course, they keep the bushs safe tax at incredibly low rate that it is, plus take away a couple of your deductions, including the earned Income Credit and child tax credit. They will be gone. Its irrelevant. Even if they pass it in the house, the president will veto it. There they are. Theyre in the middle of a vote. Oh, my god. Can you imagine if this vote goes one way or the other . Yeah, i can. Things will be the same. This is about making mt. Lawrence a designated site. Oh, can you imagine if it wasnt dedicated. That was fun. That was the house. We just saw the house live. Thats the first time ive ever seen that many people inside the house. Nobody is giving a peach obviously. That poll, devastating. Does it change the republicans at all . Do they look at it and go maybe we should do a core stretch. Its not very conservative. The word extreme is in there. I dont think they need to keep seeing poll numbers to know they need to do a change. Do they see this as a different way to brand themselves or recognize that its not about branding. Do they change the actually policies . I think theyre much more likely to treat it as branding and so the and rubio as the new face of the Republican Party without any change in policy. I think thats right. Just think about a month ago trying to make it seem like they were the most Reasonable Party because they were willing to break norquists pledge. When you look to the details they werent really to break the pledge. Well get rid of some deductions, but not increase tax rates. They never learn their lesson regardless of what the polls say. Cenk theres a clip here, one from the heritage foundation, other club for growth and last one, these are the conservative groups. Are they going to bend . No, theyll go the other way and say i cant believe republicans would ever consider raising a dime of taxes on our prejudicial beautiful rich folks in this country. The American People did not reelect the conservatives. The house of representatives become tax checkers or Barack Obamas welfare state. We supported challengers opposed to tarp, opposed to the debt deal, 2011 and this is the sort of vote that well look at closely when we look at hour options in 2014. A whole lot of members who thought they were safe and thought they could get away with this will lose in their own districts. Cenk so me, whats interesting is that the press will look at that and go look, thats the right wing and then theyll show progressives, they hate to deal, so the answer must be in the middle. What they dont say is their position is deeply unpopular. About 70 of the country doesnt agree. A majority of republicans do not agree with the position. A progressive position, dont cut Social Security and medicare is deeply popular 87 saying we agree with the progressives. So many of the people that the club for growth supported this year didnt win. So were talking about this conservative congress and yes it is a conservative congress. Most of them were reelected. They had a terrible record this year with the senate and house. Our report card, weve been hearing from the n. R. A. For a long time. That argument is going to weaken. Also today the president polled at 56 his highest Approval Rating since 2009. That combined with these numbers would make you think that the president would be able to sort of take a steam roller through congress. The club for growth, did we acknowledge this before . Sounds like late night male enhancement pills. Cenk now that you say it, it makes no sense in the world but i thought it was for hair. Yeah, thats what i thought too. Youre worried about your hair, im worried about. All right. Cenk michaels point about how president obama is handling these negotiations, hes got the leverage. How is he going to use it . This is yesterday, 8 23. This video shows you a lot about how president obama negotiates. Look at where we started look at where they started. My proposal is right there in the middle. The fact that they havent taken it yet is puzzling. Cenk ok. So two thoughts about that. Thats just funny. I started over here. They started over here and my proposals here. Wait, where did you start . I mean that goes to how obama negotiates, every single time. What he doesnt get is it doesnt help you in a negotiation, it actually hurts you, not just getting to your policy goal, but actually even getting a deal. If youre negotiating with somebody and they keep giving you more and more, dont you just sit back and go let me see how long this lasts. Its been easy for the republicans so far. Speaking of republicans ignoring the polls. If obama is so willing to compromise when it comes to taxes, obama is ignoring the people that reelected him. Thats the main reason he got reelected. Nancy pelosi said i consider it a strengthening of Social Security. Thats justify the kind of thing republicans said from reagans day on. Cenk i know. Thats whats horrible about the democratic negotiation that not only do they say oh, goddamn it, at the very last second, weve got to do a deal. Ok. They adopt republican positions and go on the record and defend republican positions saying cutting Social Security is strengthening. Nobody ever says cutting defense strengthens defense. Why can they not say i think were going to have to use the chained c. P. I. Were going to bite the bullet and do it, we think its terrible, but republicans are insisting on it. At least say that. Dont say i love the position it strengthens Social Security. If we do that fonzie said we should do. Hey hey we, you know, wed still be here criticizing that, too. It is a stronger way of going about it. The point is dont say stop right there dont say its strengthening something that its not. Cenk speaking of things that drive me crazy, fox news, secretary of state Hillary Clinton will not be testifying because she had a concussion. Apparently the madam secretary butched her head the other day and her doctor said stay in bed. When you dont want to go to a meeting or event one have a diplomatic illness. She took a knee. She is suffering from an acaught benghazi allergy. She passed out somewhere. Is she unconscious somewhere . Hillary has severe ben goody allergy. That any doctor come forward and said it is a concussion . Jim home run borrow would have replaced her by now. Look, if obama and the democrats had done this or msnby, john mccain slips and hurts himself and hes got a concussion. Theyd go look at these liberals who have no decency left in america. The man is with a concussion. Hes a hero. Isnt she testifying in january . Shes going to testify anyway. Of course she is. She was secretary of state. Shes going to testify before the committee that calls her. Cenk when we come back, well talk to sean lennon about fracking. There he is. Hes got a great case to make about whether new york should do it or not. I want to give you a hint on that. They shouldnt. Were also going to show you snow in chicago. Why is that important . They just broke a record for how many snow days not in chicago. A record latest. There will be Flights Canceled at ohare. vo answer pour disaronno into a flute glass and top with prosecco. Brought to you by disaronno. Be originale. Lets rock and roll. There is so much going on that every day presents another exciting issue. From financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. There are real issues here. Having been a governor, i know that tradeoffs are tough. Things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. I want our viewer to understand why things have happened. At the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, whats going to happen tomorrow. Im in chicago. The bottoms going to fall out around 5 00 to 7 00. The first measurable snow of the season. Thats a record latest. Cenk the thing about this record, its finally snowing in chicago. It took 290 days. Thats the longest stretch chicago has ever gone without snow. I wonder if theres Climate Change going on. Probably not lets ignore it for a couple more decades. One issue involving energy is of course fracking. It has issues involving Climate Change and regarding other Environmental Concerns and safety concerns, as well. There are people who profit from it and driving the agenda. A rich, right wing family were funding projects in sunni a college in new york, until it was discovered that Academic Research about fracking was paid for by the guys who want to do fracking. Its coming to a head in new york in february. They say fracking is not so bad. Mayor blackberg said cenk that sounds kind of dirty and in a couple of different ways. Governor cuomo is stainingly silent on it. Watch this report. We have supply of power in Northern New York and quebec. We have power supply in western new york. We have a tremendous need for power in down state new york. Lets connect the dots. A mention of hydrofracking was notably absent from his vision was the States Energy policy. The development of the Natural Gas Industry will depend on whether new york moves to allow the drilling technique. Cenk there are some people fighting back. Artists against fracking are one of those groups, urging cuomo to vote against it. They said imagine theres no fracking. Its from yoko and sean lennon. Hence the imagine. I got it. Theyve come up with an interesting song to drive home this message, as well. Lets watch. There aint no place left on this earth to discover but please, dont frack my mother dont frack me cenk sean lennon joins us right now. Sean. Hey whats up . Great to talk to you man. Thanks for fighting back on this. We appreciate it. First of all tell us about fracking and why you think it might not be safe under any circumstances. Well, ultimately, the way that i found out about it was that cabot oil came to my county where my mom and dad had a house. Weve had our own well water for a long time. Their proposing this giants pipeline for using for fracking across the state. That got me involved. I wanted at first to save my own water and researched it and realized all new york water is at stake. Then i realized Climate Change itself which is already at a tipping point, based on the weather in chicago and all around the world were at a point where were at a critical point with saturating atmosphere with carbon dioxide. Theres 100 times more greenhouse gas. Dr. Hanson just came out with the biggest Climate Change study in history. Essentially, it means we cant afford to do gas drilling, either. We cant afford coal burning or gas drilling. Both things will tip the planet into a catastrophic Climate Change. I learned a lot in the last six months since i started artists against fracking, which is the coalition that i began, because of this whole sort of story and its been a lot of facts to learn very quickly and been really terrifying. The deeper ive gotten into it, the uglier its presented to be. Cenk mayor bloomberg as i just showed said oh, you can do this sensibly. How do you make an argument against that . Well, i think. Cenk because when somebody hears no, you cant do it sensibly i feel like they always want to find a middle ground and fight back against that. Thats the question of the problem with modern journalism is nobody is taken seriously unless they show two sides of an argument. Bloomberg is very connected with the business world. He has a big heart. Hes an intelligent guy but has people around him with a lot of other interests that are not the environment and health of the people. Ultimately, if you just look at what he said, you can see the flaw. Were not going to frack near the manhattan aquifer its too dangerous, well frack elsewhere, near other aquifers. It is too dangerous for the population of manhattan therefore, it should be too dangerous for all population. Just because theres only a thousand people in a town doesnt mean theyre expendable and their health should be expendable. Thats the flaw in the argument hes making and sadly the best argument hes made. Theres no other argument for doing it safely other than trying to keep it away from the people who matter, apparently the big city people. Cenk thats interesting. We found if youre shooting up walls in the center of the middle of the country, thats ok, but in newtown where one of the major Financial Companies that owned the Rifle Company then all of a sudden, they got to sell off the company and its not ok. Its an interesting point that youre making. Now when you go to governor cuomo, look, nationwide, its really hard to stop this, you know the energy companies. Theyve bought off so many politicians. New york is supposed to be a liberal state solidly blue. Do you have a chance with cuomo here to get the right decision . I think we do have a chance. Obviously, its a big fight. I think the gas industry is taking advantage of the faction that were in session now proposing it as a solution to disentanglement to the middle east and creating more jobs. The truths is as bill clinton said in 2011, you can create more jobs based on the german bank research, insurance company, you can create actually exponentially more jobs by retrofitting and insulatedding Old Buildings and creating Renewable Energy economy like they have done in germany. They have 50 renewables. All of germany is 2530 renewables. Thats mostly solar. Germany has less sun than much of america. The idea that is not an economic solution is a complete falsity. Were totally at the point we can do this right now. I think the, you know, were really in a situation where theres an old paradigm, the oh oh post oil revolution, industry which is very powerful and strong, perhaps the strongest in the world. They obviously want to continue to do things within their paradigm and with their own interests in mind. Thats how the free market works, i guess but we have to enlighten the people and make them understand there is nothing safe about this. Its just as dirty as coal, its going to cause Climate Change. Its not which fossil fuel we like. This is all about Climate Change and obviously having clean air and water is important but if we tip the earth into unlivable environment, everybody suffers. In fact, a lot of us are going to perish. So, you know, it seems overly dramatic and a lot of the gas saying this is a scare tactic. I want to hang out in my room and play guitar. I have no dire desire to be talking about this. I think once you know the information and intern amize it, everyone is going to be forced to be engaged. This is an issue that affects all of us and all generations of the future. I dont want to get too heavy but thats true. It is. Theres no way around it. My favorite conservative argument was god gave us the oil, it would be an insult not to use it. God gave us the sun and wind, as well. Not the best arguments. Does that mean he believes in dinosaurs or not . Thats a conflicting stories here. Its the dinosaurs that turn into the oil isnt it . Cenk of course not. I thought god made dinosaurs. Cenk i get confused. Thanks for joining us and thanks for fighting back in new york. We appreciate the effort. It was great to be here. Thank you. Cenk all right take care. Well talk to you soon. Bye. Cenk all right now when we come back. Were going to talk a little bit about torture, its in the form of a movie. It seems theyre twisting the truth in zero dark 30. We even have republican senators mad about it. I think hes getting ready to Say Something. Are you getting ready to Say Something . What do you want to say, huh . Careers of tomorrow. Share your career story at current. Com knowhow tell us about how youve let nothing stand in the way of being ready for the future. [ piano plays ] Troy Polamalus going deeper. And so is head shoulders deep clean. [ male announcer ] with 7 benefits it goes deep to remove grease, gunk and flakes. Deep. Like me. [ male announcer ] head shoulders deep clean for men. Cenk were back here on the young turks. Ben is a movie critic, as well as regular on the young turks. He hosts Turner Classic Movies on the weekend. And cohosts vote the flick. Limited release last night, a lot of debate about whether the film endorses torture shows a Critical Link in the cap