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DW Conflict Zone - Guest Ibrahim Khraishi March 7, 2018

To bring him crazy welcome to conflict zone thanks or welcome and the mission of the state of palestine doing that let me start with the u. S. Decision to recognize jerusalem as israels capital your president said we will not accept for the u. S. To be a mediator because after what theyve done to us a believer shall not be stung twice in the same place and then he told donald trump damn your money and maybe your house be destroyed what kind of effect do you think that sort of rudeness has on the diplomatic process. And this announcement was unexpected first of all for the palestinians and the International Community because before that for me things i was being now and i was. Im a president and top and he visited us with member of the class was really expected trump said throughout his campaign that he was going to recognize jerusalem but all of this was all of the previous present they said oh but they didnt move to practice one livid campaign private Campaign Promise and the others did it some of them but now damn you know what he and may your house be destroyed i mean you cant afford to talk to your biggest donor like i can yes yes the americans they are they are supporting us in some way but for us in some ways in a big way and some in some way no not even on that is there is something they are supporting the authority but if you come to talk about that obligation on no to our grants and contribution its not to be for the policing or thought of it was being designed nine hundred forty nine by the decision by the General Assembly youre talking about the u. S. Decisions with a cold six year i sixty five Million Dollars its an obligation by the way its not any Financial Support to the Palestinian People and eight its in or thirty its absolutely gorgeous is the agency that looks after Palestinian Refugees so its going to its going to hit your people yes yes but now and if you talk like that to the americans what do you expect now we have like we have we have different ways to find the support for that or not and fifteenth of this month aroma there is a Ministerial Conference organized by the on the commission of a director under the set of genesis coked up in that and i guess that the ministers or who are going to attend there would they clear the increase or their contribution to the order to cover the gust of the my point is this you insult the americans you say daniel money to them what do you expect them to do you when you meet your will your people are going to suffer as a result of this outburst yet you will continue to be with you proud of the interview you will in something anyone is going to touch on. Writes what i says not for the money i would have taken it is not for me so you dont care with your people so you are as a result of the little we are putting since twenty years ago its not too new for us and we can live without them we can money we can find their way but the Palestinian National dignity and rights is not for sale its not for many because of that we start our existence to try to find a peaceful solution to end the a corporation and to end this suffering for a pretty bunch of you g. s and the palestinians inside with bank is jerusalem and gaza but trump has a point if youre going to ignore American Peace efforts he says you dont appear to be interested in making peace why should they continue to write checks for you why should that be any less than if you just respect them yesterday you said something which is also important that there is more peace and freedom without it really stings and we are not rejecting and we are left refusing any peaceful solution but to this one should be based on the International Consensus then turn to national youre not actually in anything you said we will not except for the us to be a mediator a mediator yes we will not accept more after those years and after this announcement us our math will come to be a sole broker or mediator for the peace but we can you find the accusation conditions like that you cant get a deal without b. Us we want no deal with what we want them is what we want them in different make the letter and you want your conditions as opposed to one look and thats our national security. We are not talking on the road today we are not talking a particular student condition we are talking about the International Legitimacy that is illusions of the you under Security Council of the General Assembly the Arab Initiative the Previous Administration what they agreed with us or slow realization im not going to go you have to deal with the new reality the new reality is trump in the White House Trump isnt prepared to go on writing checks if youre not serious about making peace. Reality is not a must to no one can and voice it on our reality is that the americans are central to any peace deal if you want a peace deal over there is no way when the only way we want them on a very clear basis we will not waste more time after all students now more than twenty years without any faults every day there is a new israeli violations and accepting land building settlements now with what what what they are talking about until now that money comes and the Current Administration didnt say that that we are in favor of the two state solution and this puts a solution according to the International Agreements and the collaboration and the u. Hundred solutions should be based on the compared to his nineteen success even with the jews and him as a capital of the state of palestine and this was this is the message you took to moscow because you didnt like what the americans were saying to you thought you could play the americans off against the russians or the russians up against the americans we did they didnt offer any help we russians didnt we want anywhere we want to we want them or not to the russians we want germany or want to the us came into the European Union under the euro they agree with us you know this isnt just business you are this you asked for formal recognition from frederick a mobile ringing the Foreign Affairs chief at the she said no youve got some nice words but you didnt get your formal reality one day also and youve done one already has one of the ideas that we are working on to preserve their two state solution as an agreement all are supporting this idea its the only game on the air and with as they usually say so we are asking our friends around the world to compromise the state of palestine to preserve this idea nevertheless it will become by defacto one estate but this one state i dont think that it will be a democratic one it will go and it started about a type that we would not give up we would continue our our own resistance and then we and that started in one thousand nine hundred fifty. You are asking for a middle east peace conference this year for which you are totally unprepared you also say youre going to hold elections also this year you think the worlds going to sit down and talk peace if i must wins your elections. Alas it does into peace with you a lot happened and i want only of we and we have our obligations under our agreement signed with the israelis and with the supervision of the International Law we are respecting the International Law but come out and then i must and i am as if there were in the elections and the notions they should respect what was been agreed before with the p. L. O. As the sole legitimate representative for the Palestinian People i doubt without that i dont and you know if if you know they do it it will be it will be difficult later but now we have in a very any grooves in those consultations and discussions or but others have managed to find a way first of all to end this separation between us and to agree on a political bridge but what is it going to say its not going well you unity deal which was signed in october this is the latest deal of many that have frozen through its over its dead in the water not no i dont i dont say taize was attending several of the meetings between between the stakeholders i think its going very difficult to slowly slowly but for us weekly u. N. Special coordinator says youll deal has already broken down the implementation he said the fabric the twentieth this is new to lima d. N. R. She said the implementation of the egyptian brokered into palestinian agreement has stalled it stalled millions wasnt so as broker was on the bald one but now the last few days there is something fed reality of this just over two weeks ago there is something of a new car journey after the visit of the Egyptian Team and there is now a meetings is going to take over between fatah and hamas this was a deal at gilead to escalate a deal actually all the procedure the issues how we are going to end that and there is in years its not that easy youve been not using what is in gaza in the way it was ten years and youve been getting nowhere for ten all the serious discussions started in any way but essentially you cant agree on whos going to collect taxes in gaza you cant agree on who should be released. Should be the easy go ahead that you made them and this is our problem we have longer say one time it doesnt do you want harm as they should expect that we have to go for one or thirty one bro and one woman. And mission and supervision we dont want but you anywhere near that from us how we are going that way we are about where we are trying to convince our brothers from him and there is some we dont know getting very far with that it is getting a very different needs that time but its our target to reach this moment to unite. And was its not happening right after your socalled agreement on reconciliation the head of hamas in the gaza strip yeah since he said no one in the universe can disarm us on the country we will continue to have the power to protect our citizens that does that we have the other were going to have our loved one going about this arming karmas but we are looking you said one having you said one women under under legitimated leadership because we dont want to allow an equal validity was that and different so you think hamas is going to become the armed wing of fact i think if they think this is the meaning of it is that if a thinking nationally they have to accept and its not a no one issue of the many issue is to find that mechanism to start to implement this agreement which was been saying before three months in cairo and there is some positive signs and i think that some of that imus leaders now they had a hook nose that the only way for the first was that if step towards fighting i would say is that a conciliation based on that national agreeing and thats why hamas is already ruling out recognition of israel no one has the ability to extract from us recognition of the occupation this is what mr sin was the head of hamas in gaza strip said he and it is the way as weve seen it is not i must by the way for how mr putin has israel or the fact that a little bit as israel but we understand that the state of palestine is a mess. And be a robotic open eyes and we signed that letter then recognition nineteen ninety three when we sent also look so the factions is not a must for them because i look like what whats going on and it is a different political they didnt organize even the distance of the palestinians you are talking there is a united by god look in isnt it then there are armed forces that he bade him a civilian administration in israel you dont have that you have you have different voices you have hamas you have Islamic Jihad you havent thought about any of the any details and call it international and Israel International christiano a lot of people are going ok all israel is also they have different view was developed forces its not quite the same out this is a i understand its not quite it was i was working at the negotiations at First Department of during the good air of rubbing then we face the same kind of cornish and also opposing what ive been was doing because of that the as an added him so its always happening but we have to deal with the legitimate and but isnt that him or them to the results of any future elections in his fancy or in israel the fact is im best of the as the un coordinator put it last month can be no palestinian state without palestinian unity and you are nowhere near palestinian you understand and we are working hard for that because he said for eleven now you said it is when they are willing to give a head to head to it will take time but i am sure that one day short and its not very far from now this year we should come up with this you would have these promises before meanwhile your your Palestinian Authority is illegitimate isnt it its widely seen as illegitimate and corrupt you havent had elections in more than ten years in defiance of your basic law seventy percent of your people want us to resign now seventy seven percent believe the Palestinian Authority is in. Institutions house corruption and more than sixty percent say theyre afraid to even criticize the palestinian or family you should use the shoreline is that of your vision you should check once again of the us information as. They come to the Palestinian Center for policy and survey we are here and the other rendition of around the world this is not like any other nation and what action is everywhere but not the work you mentioned now because there is sometimes a political who was for those pools and for those opinions and you saying the Palestinian Center for policy and survey research theyve been registering the same results for years which one Palestinian Center for policy and survey research they said that seventy percent seventy one is the only one of us to resign. Over the recent the last one it was last last month and february its put it different totally in status from the same time the same organization and we are following those cases and you know that we have this is just over two months ago december twenty seventeen three months ago and there is another one the last mile and a federal exchange that measures its jayenge but the corruption we are following that that is there is a legal system is following there is a department there is an. Omission is full on all those cases but as as i said here we are we are and we are going to to fix all of that if youll be in our hour an hour of the legal order that we can sustain youve been saying this for years you you want a lot from the International Community and you get a lot from the International Community but you refuse time and time again to address the complaints that the International Community has to last last june the u. N. High commissioner for human rights this is the stigmas senior human rights official in the United Nations criticized your noncompliance with his calls for accountability he urged you to conduct prompt impartial in depend. And in tibet did investigations of all alleged violations of International Human rights law noncompliance i am fed up with the whole rest of america believe me i am following that person and theres two three ways lead noncom top of this to do with the leak case is i am following that in two days im going also to meet with the special report on boettcher and. Freedom of expression and we have the can you can even if you want us youre not standing in there that is there is some cases still not saving it is not our policy from our side there is somebody somewhere from the police from the ages they are doing so why do you keep them fired why why why is it year after year yourself out of well trying to come over all of that even to where you can fight it even in switzerland your president gets up at the Security Council february twentieth and talks about rule of law you have accountability sure transparency sure an environment of tolerance yes which is nonsense isnt it its not synonymous we are working with that and everywhere you will find the mistakes you have some obstacles everywhere like youre pretending that you have this rule of law and accountability when the u. N. And every major Human Rights Organization knows that this is not true why you keep pretending to the outside world its a game a sliver you have if you would take a lock on the last report of the high commissioner it was going to be represented in the front of the Human Rights Council nineteenth of this september there are some recommendations there is some consensus here is that its four or five cases which is nothing if you compare it with any even in his resentment we are going to follow us and to follow that and to fix all of that and to work with those are responsible in a front of just four or five cases in its latest annual report Human Rights Watch said both the Palestinian Authority and hamas arrested activists who criticize their leaders Security Forces or policies mistreated and tortured in their custody the independent commission for human rights in palestine received you know how many complaints of torture and ill treatment. Palestinian authority Security Forces took hundred and five in the last year for last year yes and you telling me this is just a few cases that is nice and i say that i was once i remember it was like ok guys all want to go to m

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