Transcripts For DW Conflict Zone - Guest Nicky Morgan 201807

DW Conflict Zone - Guest Nicky Morgan July 5, 2018

Months in the presidency of the e. U. With the most pressing was and is still migration now there is a deal on this but it is very light on details isnt it i think. There are many challenging during our presidency and migration and fortunately the most divided topics very high in the agenda more than three years and so what we try to draw during cow presidency is to propose can promise it but you didnt succeed yeah but we are really we are who are really close to these and to succeed is those doesnt mean that im endorsing a brutal ugly yes your right heel refers to control the center for silence seekers on european territory the decision not of outside yeah the decision to build these will be voluntary lets be honest no one will volunteer for that its also inside inside and outside inside and outside yet it is so what is reality inside know nobody wants to do it even you decided that they are some existing and. What what is the bulgarian position on this hour. Now after the presidency can speak much more lout bulgarian positionable good proposal dead three people worse our pm and three dimensions help a second to solve this long long perspective manner not just crisis after crisis a crisis and we wasnt prepare for the first crisis now one of the european members that it was literally their crisis in the World Everybody knew that their crisis and the everyone who is in for it i was working over and you know it was also for some crisis responsible so now you beauty dont work. You know ok is europe responsible for some crisis maybe maybe yes. And the problem getting proposal for the board duration is not to wonder three years out we in crisis are not and took us three years with a decision to sign for example your turkish agreement which actually decreased eighteen one percent the pressure of the border lets talk about the use of these are these are Old Solutions so this whole comparatively situation of the few just head to the summit the european summit is bulgaria willing to build an Asylum Center like that will you volunteer no we dont so we hear the saying no so what does it mean everybodys saying oh everybody decided bulgaria also decided the last text so what does it mean if you say no we accept no border as you know and we protect our external bore border extremely good not our European Union external border and we have centers and we register actually we have register at the register all refugees that cross our border so according to the regulation existing one. And what happens actually if theyre refugee they have to see through to to to find the first safety place but most of those people dont want to stay in bulgaria they dont want to stay in greece they dont state either leave them but end up as perhaps or remains we were told as well as that country in europe which is not the case that we can go we were told about that were refugees dont want to stay in bulgaria but lets lets continue to a little give and then also in greece are lets lets talk about the control centers because this is a very important issue these Processing Centers are closed and controlled thats the idea right the process is center. In the beginning there are hotspots of. Attention centers now we call them processing processing but there are also control that the. Two types of this would close control for the people who dont actually receive you dont assign in advance who is really allowed and not allowed basically a closed Processing Center is like a prison for escaping people many of them barely survived the journey to europe is that what you want closed centers. First of all we want is to close our external border is not normal everybody who want to come to life in europe and to look for a better life which is normal well for the people who can cross illegally the border and if you nice way to go and speak about these ones who want to have a better life we are speaking and talking about these ones who have to escape like syrians because there is war. Since you were there fortunately your eight years actually already thats why these for a novel and writers lets learn not to quit cold air and the asylum legal rights are not to compare with these people who want to have a better life so really lets talk about these ones so lets make the necessary between the refugees and illegal migration thats awesome unfortunately what we see in europe that people start to make these differences because of many little migrants that are still coming and continue to come in europe and this is the problem even in bulgaria but not only in bulgaria i just spoke with with the germans france and unfortunately even in germany the people. Stopped to make this difference refuge an illegal migration and then the word for the tensions days explain to the population and we also want to try to explain. Politicians wants to explain to their population the opposite that the refugee crisis is a crisis not because refugees are coming i mean another part of the deal but you know we got there and as it was of it is also absolutely different two thousand and twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen ninety percent from the people who are crossed or the european or the where refugees and now its not that not not like that but you have to create for all of them you have to have a legal way to understand migrants yes but you have however regardless of that remark there is a Legal Process which has to be done another part of the deal with which your Prime Minister will resurface expressed support for is the socalled dis embarkation platforms in north africa. You agree with what we what we say yes this is well get in position a lot we support is three measures and they cannot work separate so one number one of them its enough i understood so on is north africa and this implication clips of what is artists are our opinion and this is in this declaration actually its european the gratian its european leaders the gratian achieved after hours and hours of discussion and its across external borders of a solider with external borders countries because we yes ok we managed to tackle ourself but its much more difficult for greece and spain but we should not forget also bulgaria cyprus malta and so on and so for also when we talk about solidarity its sort of there are only the external borders country to accept all of the refugees Illegal Migrants that want to come in europe but you know what is not so in there you know its not fall into your you were talking about that north african states have already rejected this idea there is not one north african state who said here i am we are helping europe but we have to support also then to of course through this Africa Trust Fund that we created and if you see the datas ninety five percent greece think of. Of. Migrants and refugees Illegal Migrants and refugees. In the measures that we took to signing the turkish statement agreement since creating can develop an african thrust front legs or sorry again you are telling to your population into the europeans the disembarkation platforms will be in north africa there is not one state who is saying we have we agree on that we continue we continue to talk with them and thats why one of the most Important Pillar of this is external pure we have to continue to work with those countries to support them and its not only not north africa countries lets be frank we talk about the region about corner of africa region we are talking about libya we are libya only one story difficult to share it with libya do you support yeah i went to libya we have to make you support this idea yes we support this libya does not have a functioning government. Very complicated situation they have two governments as you know one of the only. Very difficult Border Control of an exam said they want to negotiate yeah we won when they had it with all those smugglers criminals which are not have that much of a loser on the other not only got shit with the smugglers but you know negotiated with with the governments without any power if we now there is official government but unfortunately in power no its i would not say that i am not agree with you if there isnt be as powerful as you are just saying you wouldnt have problems with your email i also asked criminals they cant take care in their own country it may express our pleasure its a possible story but what we do if you continue to accept the illegal migration actually we support. Smugglers and criminals who dont care about those people and just take the money and. Put them in the water said i dont care about you and not on the water in the truck store so we have to tackle and we have to stop the city go across the border of our own nothing because through continuing support of this illegal crossing we actually support the smugglers but faces now are not your solutions are we all not negotiate with smugglers and traffickers what youre negotiating with libya or this already or what youre saying that olivia doesnt know because the governments the government is not the government how of all and you know this as you know that the north african they dont they are not interested to negotiate with europe no doubt youre telling we negotiate you frustrations no youre not right we negotiate and we actually work very. Un and. International organization of migrants and we have actually a huge successes so lets be frank we are not there where we have to be drawing a common decision but they are really very close but we have a huge difference since ninety. Eight in the twenty fifty so we have ninety five percent decreasing of illegal crossing borders and these are the facts lets have a look at those records you have taken in a few refugees the Bulgarian Helsinki Committee human rights and geo based in the capital so if your says quote the situation of zero integration of refugees in bulgaria has been going on for fourth year in a row zero integration and then you are staunch the refugees want to live to leave bulgaria you know i think that of course i know this reports im not agree with everything what is written there so the fact that. People that come absolutely free with politicians popped up on a Different Organization to see what happened in our border its many speculation what we do with the refugees but its proven that its not we its not its now its not turkish according to the turkish statement actually they are bright if theyre try to dig across the border to take this and to send them back in turkey with all weve got to get back so if we go halves of the opinions lets take the amnesty word report twenty seventeen they say quote the Necessary Services were not provided to migrants and refugees including two unaccompanied children it documents a case from february for example last year syrian family had been granted humanitarian status symbol garia the major in the town of ilene palin said quote muslim from syria were not welcome. A truce is doesnt want. To host refugees i see no problem for want to host the refugees it we have to take care for the refugees but see what happens and thats why i started with this we start to do a much difference between migrants and illegal Illegal Migrants and refugees in there and this is because of when we want to tackle if we think that we can tackle populism with more populism its the wrong approach and the artists decision now and all the european Member States to build fences among us saying in the work is it isnt it better to protect our sterno borders and to create for the countries who want migrants because they need their working forces to create a Legal Program for migration because actually we save six hundred fifty thousand people from that ok so lets talk about lets we continue in my opinion if you also its Pretty Simple get an opinion if we want to tackle and to save peoples life actually to tackle it illegal migration to traffic and smugglers and those criminals we have to stop illegal crossing borders so the European Union i got a letter g. You dont try to i also if you go border if you think that according to the to the convention for refugees you are refugees you have to go and i am a refugee this is my appeal for. Asylum seeker i understand so this time talk about Something Else you seem to have no problem with the Bulgarian National movement with according to a report by the council of europe is quote notorious for systematically propagating hatred against neighboring people in the balkans as well as anti gypsy propaganda its a coalition partner. Yes we have Coalition Partners and we have different opinions but we have very very clear corniche of agreements that its not even when its our with this party another example of this hatred is coming from the deputy Prime Minister your deputy Prime Minister simeon of he was found guilty of hate speech against roma hes still deputy minister and you dont say anything hes the Prime Minister not getting in deputy Prime Minister and you dont say anything and i often i was not the correct what is the ping and where different Political Parties i thought you were laying ceremony as of here in germany that they have a different opposition and are doing great. Like that about minorities in the German Government another vote lets listen to your deputy Prime Minister he said in the bulgarian has a name for his opinion im not agree with his being wrong or people are we have to try to integrate them but the one about right and we try to integrate them but we need we integrate our roma refugee our deputy Prime Minister our twelve percent of arrogating presumptious ferocious humanoids demanding wages about labor demanding sick leave benefits without being sick child benefits for children that play outside with the street pigs and maternity benefits for woman with the instincts of street bitches this is your deputy Prime Minister you are still in a coalition with such a man we are and since here this was during his period actually campaign he said he is in the government he absolutely changed his approach you know heres the problem to responsible youll post with such a gun i dont this is a race is this a racist statement yes or no for the gypsies it authorizes they want but so you are you on the government with the racist party and the i mean. It was everything it was during the Production Campaign and i was not agree with what he says what he was sacked and since we are in the government we have absolutely clear position that is stick to the European Values and also conventions that we signed in joint and if we continue to be blind that illegal migration its a huge problem and every who was. Really talking is a very mild situation were not talking about migration we do order on them for us to go into all right i want i want all a showman see but the fact is the fact is that most of them we have six point eight percent unemployment five point eight percent of the union and all of those are all insanity people only point people fortunately from so this is what is what is what we do what we do we create a special program to oblige there almost to send the children in the schools and in the kindergarten to give them a future so we put a lot of effort and there are people there bulgaria c. A theyre up against we have. Gary and so we trauma origin we have also twelve percent of bulgarians for thirty shortages so we are proud we are proud with the ethnic tolerance and we never compared with other boxes country didnt have tension between the different people we didnt have tension between the bulgarians if you get it now it is you know a bit dangerous you can use military sollie many people said the lot of things before the election its not many people may know many people in europe also say a lot of people many things before elections not following garia after you lecture us and after they join the government its a different position ok ever never in our history we have tension between the bulgarians will get an origin and it begins with the so we are proud of this ok you also have the letter you also wrote about your important relationship with russia. You have a Good Relationship with russia we hear what relationship its russia but we absolutely. Will stick to the european principles and we mention a point bulgaria is the best friend to pressure bulgaria stop south stream well get a start stop a Nuclear Power bell and whats. Your position about sanctions and also what gussets from the project so we are suited to our own for European Partners are you in favor for the sanctions against russia us just the european leaders to decision to continue with the sanctions you are obviously bulgaria support or support for these and these are sanctions not again russians if the sanctions is our red lines about rational behavior to ukraine and crimea or so but what about the ukraine whats about the current crimea crisis whats about syria whats your opinion about blood if you put it in his policy. For the reporting obviously want to be very strong men. There. Now for example for creamier absolutely its unacceptable and country can just decide to take this is my part. To the International Rules and values for syria we condemn them for. Russia behaving in a korean for for syria for example and what we can do together with with russia we have to Work Together with russia on european level not on the also on by thats arrival to tackle for example terrorism to try to solve the crisis in syria talk north korea but you have there we depend very depend on their actions against us russia gets no less one hundred percent right more than one house cannot let these votes around ni

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