Surely. Allow me to tell you how moved i am unable to said although id like to thank each of you for coming here today. And for taking a stand against violence and a short piece. From. The november fourth one thousand nine hundred five a huge crowd gathered in kings of israel square in tel aviv to support itzhak rabin and his government in their quest for reconciliation between israelis and palestinians is no plus your love for the first time peace seemed within reach. The mood was festive upbeat despite the hostility shown by part of the israeli population to what was called the oslo agreement. You. Know young people you know fellow i believe today that peace is possible yes you. See. I am very lucky to be here with you today. By coming to this rally you were demonstrating along with those who could not come how much the people really want peace you are going to. Say. It was a brief moment of optimism. Was. By assassinating itzhak rabin the israeli extreme right was above all trying to derail the Peace Process one year earlier in one nine hundred ninety four i had decided to keep a film diary of the negotiations between israelis and palestinians i met negotiators on both sides in washington cairo jerusalem and ramallah standards i saw new hope emerge shared by the whole world was this interminable and bloody conflict finally going to end. On childhood. Through the want to talk about all these are. Personal service. Acts there are conversations. With him. Because i sincerely hope and i sincerely believe that the palestinians must have an interest in moving forward with negotiations. Without a common interest we wont reach an agreement peace cannot be imposed shuttle. That there was a big demonstration by the israeli right forty thousand people participated in a right wing demonstration in tel aviv are you concerned when last night why. They did this and their withdrawal from the territories the tone was very personal they were yelling rabin as a traitor and a liar. Im used to that kind of talk. That. I told you first of this. By feel we need to finish. Is that the list is. Ninety four. You see in the piece. We have just handed it cairo airport and the outside temperature is twenty three celsius and its ten fifteen am. And. Her. Father. Said. That. That. Was. Do you think the problems are solved now its ok. Maybe buy a car never how do you feel so i would get. Her distinguished get me gently because i need only god to thank you rick. I went to gaza to hear for myself the palestinian reaction on the ground i discovered it was not so different to the wide range of opinions of the israelis some want to build their own state above all else while others are opposed to the very idea of negotiation. But you see the situation is awful cause us completely sealed off we dont have any factory and we want to work in israel but they wont let us enter. Our response to eat weve got nothing. From our shes reading it so we must come and we would produce like the israelis they just need to let us through. We would sell our merchandise to europe and we would succeed on. Its own not with the would be so did good work in israel all the jews know that we are good workers here if it was ours we would earn more and work even better. Than he would do it as it were not good to. Me when i. Was interviewed before his meeting with the israeli delegation. Who declared that the conditions of his really west draw from jericho and gaza would be laid down within weeks. I measure. On against the Peace Process im a member of hamas which had firsthand him and i went to prison for that sort of a look at the peace doesnt achieve anything concrete so now even the Palestinian People have confidence in arafat. Or some other you not anymore so many amazing was said and try to understand they dont say anything concrete. I know prisoners have been released occur but so nothing arafat says comes true. Or israel does what his voice whatever israel imposes on us must be done we cant say our president has done what hes promised because hes strong he abandoned arms struggle why doesnt israel abandon it to arm struggle with our means of pressure arafat gave it away how can we put pressure on israel now obviously all of a political book but as dalai lama the possible you won the cellar which is the peace well have peace when our brothers in prison have been freed and when we see them again well your first to life is only then will there be peace. But the well know you know people in prison. Prisoners are my brothers. Are they your relatives well then my brothers all prisoners of my brothers in gaza and in the west bank theyre all our brothers who work here what do you think of arafats approach arafats approach we hope for understanding for things to get Better Things should think of our young people in the camp before our eyes and then almost get the net militant has risen where do you live i mean this is a year or so whats the situation like there. And what if this is a situation in shisha you know shooting as clashes People Killed in the streets children getting short going to school and then a dragged out of their shops yesterday a pregnant woman was killed in jerusalem with her unborn child thats some of the situation is terrible its a catastrophe. Because of the. They give them a. Moment did you decide to reach an agreement with the p. L. O. Which is previously been taboo. Without going on that it had been taboo for me to. I dont want to show things in a different light to the way they were. How i observed the process among the palestinians those in the territories and those elsewhere made up of this. Trouble i mean the process had polarized them into two main camps. Should name one camp opposed all negotiations with israel. So dummys bit was led by hamas Islamic Jihad the ten organizations based in syria in damascus that they reject the Peace Process. Should keep them out of the hole they were opposed to any negotiations with israel. That they were and still are in favor of Armed Struggle violence and terrorism then. The second camp part of the payload led by arafats should want to try the path of negotiation that. He has been we have disputes especially a fundamental dispute on the form of a permanent solution. But there is a will to go forward and to give peace a chance that the symbol. For this reason despite my reservations despite my doubts i came to this decision without my emotions getting in the way. He will because over the years this will be resentment has accumulated in us in me in them in him we should eat chicanes over sentiment and fighting. Well you can make peace with enemies sometimes even the toughest ones weve been pushing. Twenty years later what remains of this brief moment of optimism whos working for peace today is any dialogue between israelis and palestinians possible and if so who is prepared to admit. His Deputy Foreign minister a member of a far right party interferes proponent of israeli settlements in the occupied territories agreed to speak to me. Got manischewitz about deafness minimal given them and not a fault bought up i believe that in our relations with the rest of the world and the state and its citizens want to leadership proud of the wonderful things weve created here without apology because i truly believe the state of israel aims for the best metaphor when it with thought that if we make mistakes by fighting for our existence we will be the first to try to limit the damage and not hurt anyone but no hope will help other afterthought since the settlements are not the problem disappear gage meant isnt the solution that he looked at them when they were also those settlements which im proud of and which are part of our pioneer heritage but like losing you khalili all the negative again will remain in place and israeli law will be enforced in that region with a force you and me its not realistic that people sent over there by various governments are not israeli citizen. This is not what we must understand this that the conflict with our neighbors is not about borders of another will question that much i have learned in my year at the ministry of the. Real palestinian issue dates back to nine hundred forty eight not in one thousand nine hundred seventy thought of it because at the door we cannot resolve it with solutions from nine hundred sixty seven at the kewl. For palestinian leaders we shouldnt be living here but then we would like all the time but if the leaders accepted the bet if i thought you were interviewing me on most of the i dont currently see any moderation from Palestinian Society yes theres only radicalization or long island in the real world honest not a fantasy one almost last year i was going to recommend returning the territories. Politically and realistically we must build everywhere in israel and stop telling the world a story about occupations themselves were not of occupying our own land and this occupation story has absolutely no legal basis the its a false notion which we keep holding on to possibly g. G. Guilt like im not occupying my own land its my right in such a look at that this is my historic land and i have as much right to live in ramallah as amid much of much of the woman lying very proud to be jewish whether im in hebron or jerusalem and it was all of that off of the wailing wall to abu mazin book but he wanted more how much more less because television galilee the negev to think about it. Today to find the hope that robina embodied you have to move away from the official discourse and go out on the ground. To travel to hear brown in the west bank where tensions between israelis and palestinians still run high i have a meeting with some former Israeli Soldiers who denounce the occupation and its consequences and everyday life. I mean a shiny shoot out the back of one military service in hebron was a very tough experience. That one isnt in the darby thats where i left her bra and i solemnly swore to myself that i would never set foot there again. I served also for sure but no place ever gave me such a bad feeling as her brother. Moshe with her service here was really young bearable. Biggish it. Should wish to go and watch them socially and with much mission breaking the silence was founded twelve years ago at the end of the second intifada by a group of former soldiers who had served in hebron. I mean even today its still one of the bloodiest places. They believe that what soldiers experience daily should be shared with the public. The assembled photos they taken during their service as evidence. Because im seeing a huge difference between what really happens and what we imagined quickly sparked off a heated debate go there she has been much of course shall we speak with surges but we hear their side of life under occupation. And the bloom clearly the margolis to question the moral price were paying into a suit of this policy. When i was there that shack was already treatment should. Generate you would walk down why up enough hamas you know i dont im not the holy maple i was utterly prado sweets in a coffee cup because. I didnt yell at the shrine a child of a woman whos giving him coffee throws stones at the well is a palestinian families over there. The child should be arrested. Vals it thats obvious its over but his mother has given you coffee and fruit juice. To me but what would your arrest her child. That all show youre telling his stop. But he continues to throw up and. Down like this to make a barrier between him and the palestinian homes. As the body doesnt stop. Him from thats the reality of a soldiers life here in hebron. Are saying objective is to enforce the law since we have govern a city but its an Impossible Task but you. If. Youre in my military service and especially after i started asking myself a lot of questions i might shut my deciding moment for me it was a trip to hebron with breaking the silence with of on. The knees of what i remember feeling very strongly how unacceptable the existence of this place was and that id been unaware of what was happening there even more on acceptable it was being done in my name militias the situation worse under the current government to. Dismantle sham for our current government is insane most of all crazy young settlers run the country. Im sure whats happening is disturbing the Actual Company this is an organization of settlers financed in part by public funds that infiltrated us with hidden cameras and secret agents because they infiltrated our n. G. O. S and came to our homes near my enough selfish people now possess hours of private videos. But this campaign did measure originate with them a computer campaign against breaking the silence was initiated from the top of the pyramid thats what all government does it eats away at the base of the democratic and Pluralistic Society capable of accepting criticism to avoid talking about the occupation. We should be limited the vase. And situation and. We have about ten years or so israel wont collapse or be destroyed or die in ten years the course but if it doesnt change course if it doesnt make a dramatic political turn in less than ten years well past the point of no return im. Sure he was fooled. So this country and that i love so much. That matters most to me after my immediate family could cease to exist. The. Time is running out in and weve made many mistakes over many years. I mean my commitment is deep my anger against the currents within me israel and the International Community that is great but we have not made the right choice of the. The shits if we dont recover if we dont start making them and we along will be responsible for his real suicide she said really to. The superman to continue but one of the concrete dangers of so. Its always a move its simple even the cream if we continue to build in the territories we will have seven hundred fifty thousand settlers in the west bank in ten years early. You sure know if we allow that to happen in the west bank look sharing the country wont be possible he will give children to look at though its going to mean the end of a democratic jewish nation in looks to show you. Well at that level there are only two options giving palestinians full citizenship and ending the jewish state you know them or revoking their rights and ending our democracy. That is what the settlers have begun five and a continued colonization are no longer simply troubling immoral acts they are terrifying. Its the most profoundly antis zionist action and its quietly destroying us who made me took on ship. And we are traumatized by z. Repeated failure of the Peace Process. Shit its somehow youll make the quote shia so thats why theres nothing we can do to stop this terrible process anymore he made so its a. Big joke it will bring us back to the same point we were half way over being was assassinated. But in reality rabin has no errors at all and when any real sense. Hes. Being was not some peacenik hippie as some made him out to be such his visions are serious and realistic. It was not utopia top it wasnt romantic more saccharin the visit. Thats why the israelis loved him and followed him. Often. But ira docs acclaims there was no one who could take over from him after his assassination. The learning to other shall we dont have leaders on the personal level and the groupthink that we dont have a political elite intellectually and spiritually capable of formulating a new idea of going on repping as a us it in my hand rebooting his deeply realistic zionist and israeli approach of sharing the country of these elite without ignoring the difficulties of the region what part of. Im convinced that this vision of the future no longer exists on the israeli political scene i continue my research ive heard about a group of israeli and palestinian women who have all lost a loved one killed by the other side and who are united in grieving against all expectations they want to turn their personal tragedy into a weapon for peace together so this is bullshit. She lives. And she knows to some. And she joined the parents socalled and i would say shes probably one of the most at two of all the women and if you wanted to see a transformation in a person who never wanted to ever talk to me but discovered that was she at the same feeling simply a thats when she went to a total transformation. Nothing would demonstrations in be too much. You think of how it was he. Was seventeen. When that happened and this is. January the twenty eighth two thousand today. There is a friend to me about this association and when i refused to go that fast. She invited me to have coffee. When i arrived at her home and i saw others there my sister my beloved roby. I didnt want to look at her but with this guy one day i was at a friends home and she came in about where i wanted to leave. I couldnt be near any israel and that. Is the way she walked right up to me and asked to speak to me. With you she questioned me about my son. That i feel not even if he does show up in chile. Here taking mine she spoke to me. Then she told me about her son. And i bet you that many i told her about mahmoud. She cried i cried i cried together we spoke so i saw her and cheers and her pain for her son i forgot she was israeli i saw a mother a grieving mother. And in our tears of the same. People see that. There are many with them and how are. Those in the walk only that there are the people who say its easy to talk about peace and reconciliation as long as you can see your childs killer. Well as. You see this is a very long story which has developed over the years and through events in my life. She. Told me. She said i race unless its the parents of that boy the sniper. Memo i received a very tough lesson on his behalf a few years later it showed that reconciliation doesnt happen overnight it takes years. To get a little bit silly but we dont need groups like protests and breaking the silence to be aware of the problem i dont have a problem with them highlighting that there are problems i want them to be exposed handled and avoided im happy these n. G. O. S exist. But theyre also part of Bench InternationalCampaign Whose Goal is not reconciliation but the destruction of israel is the country of the jewish people do not be cautious sorry but i dont support them as part of that sort of campaigns that whatever their good intentions may be you think the majority of them to the female up and. Setting its a critical and then again someone has been drawn bender or dont get upset. The problem is such that israel has too many unresolved conflicts. And others to intervene by refusing to define our borders ok lets act like a school is got some cases have to be closed then lets do it i mean ive been in favor of almost every Peace Initiative but dont forget that ever