My father subscribed to life magazine. Life magazine in the sixtys was a really fantastic magazine. Incredible pictures and if you know its a picture magazine. There was this spread from the renaissance. Series of new its. Really grabbed you know that really grabbed me. Ill go behind the armchairs a lie on my tummy and i was like popping the drawings i just. Copied and copied over and over again you know it was essential. This excitement about. Well. Hasnt changed much to be. That is something which which i think about blues then ill probably stop being think. I think these bananas i think thats my favorite this one here i think i think i like this one best. I like to leave it to been on the side of. And tangled in each other you know its like. So often and. But yet you know to seem to sort of sit comfortably on the table you know sometimes when youre in the how are you to take your clothes off. Not very often not that both my parents are gone i dont come down very often. Its not the same Family Housing law but i think its that it was job of building the house in that kind of like same spirit the front doors were never close in our house except as not. We used to have lots of around the country. Jumble trees and all that thats all gone but you know hes planted lots of green it looks like a jungle now from the outside. I thing the only. Advantage of being a boy in the family is that you know in a traditional house so i dont get to do any housework. I mean that but we all know. He would never climb their own with entry and think their im going down because he was busy drawing all the time you know hed just lock himself up in the bedroom and just draw you know while i was the one who had to climb the tree split the room you know and then saw the room with tons out and distribute them to the neighborhood. Hopes and aspirations of my mother. And you know. I mean of course at that time nobody thought that you know being on an artist you know you could make money from being and i and of course my mother was worried you know because hes the boy hes supposed to have to support a family. I knew that when i was growing up i was extremely rebellious my parents very religious my mother had someone come to the house to instruct me to teach me but i kept questioning him you know. Of course he can im sorry but. In the end he left. He just didnt come like any more i think he was by out of me. All the friends around the neighborhood. We used to run around together you know so my friends they should all go. Theres no guard. And theyll run home and. Sit in the our mother will tell me when i get a beat to get. To. Two of my favorite christmas. Chrysis. Additionally some illegal weapon that scenes in carvings bar a bill which dates back like a thousand years before people forging the crease. See how beautifully cough it is. Its a killing tool yeah its meant to kill it is. Something that is. Dangerous but at the same time beautiful the blade is for what we call. A blacksmith but hes not an ordinary. Blacksmith. Normally who is is a spiritual person you know he goes through various rituals its almost like a priest he strives to put the spirit into it into the metal people sometimes nowadays look down and cross you know because the thing its a lot. Me. History. You know. People. Very interesting when introducing children. There was a time i think. It was time to draw. One of us had drawing blogs and i remember. My sister and i were just. Because you have to make. Me. Something. He was not like war he didnt do well in school you know who were around the house and i dont i. Tell him. He was very lucky when he went. There was. Not. I think he might not make money the intention was always you know after the Foundation Course to go into fine arts because thats what i wanted to be you know. But then again you know these voices from my sister and my mother saying you know youre going to you know its going to be coming off to. The you know. What did you think design instead of school. I went into design. School i went into the commission. I was working as a street. As a designer. And i was working and i got a big gulp of clients you know Like Singapore Airlines see what the response we shouldnt vote for. Every week ill make maybe two or three trips to singapore to get briefs. To collect checks. But i didnt like the ninety five like you know i find it very difficult to leave the room conform so that. There be meetings at the meeting easy know there be changes. When you do a piece of work. You are not there you will be here all day and have a ties or is the program. Going to hire. Really intelligent people to say. I was doing very well but i was unhappy. And just got tired of it all so i quit thinking i could have a thousand and. Ninety one. And i started thinking. Probably the most critical moment was this decision to go back to your home town i just got married a year earlier my wife was expecting our first child. I wouldnt know whether i would make it as a painter. Who went back to g. B. And i see it at the back of my mothers house my mother fed me. There was nobody my money. I was almost penniless First Painting didnt work the second painting didnt work either until one day i buy coincidence i met a friend who. Who knew. Where the senior artists in malaysia life if. You said do something as simple as possible dont think too much so thats still life paintings came about and i think id be more simpler than the still life. And he was a very bold statement to make because in the one thousand nine hundred who was being still like nobody was doing still life and he was somebody who came and said look im going to stand in the shadow of the masters in the world within that tradition yet with a great deal of eccentricity and a lot of quirkiness and of course that he has a great deal of humor hes a humorous person himself. So. I did the whole series of still lives of. Troops to me various compromising positions. Thats where the works. Started selling. For a while it became. My dream. Ive always read. To this to live on and off you know i might do tree. To four pieces a year. Always like. Like a long love affair with comics will be more like. I dont want to call this. But its a very family looking figure. This side of the shopping but it looks nice i was looking for a small object actually to put this big thing on the know something feel almost invisible. The first stages of painting is always very technical. At this moment. Im just getting. To get a grip of the form of the whole thing. So i might not be too concerned. There are. You go up before you cannot get to russell. The notion of a form in the western context and the notion of in the eastern context. Quite different you know within the western context form is it something which is totally physical. Looks like a supplement. All those working in the steel eyes you know but my real interest was the figure of the human figure. I mean certainly in the context of middle east and there are conservative muslims you know that it led to size muslims who feel that to draw a figure is against the teachings of islam. I dont actually. I think what interests me was not the act of smoking the smoke from the cigarette it was covering the persons face. It wasnt a physical process but it was a cyclical. The works. Took on a different dimension. There was a period when zacchaeus on the meter you know i too am actually did not teach figure drawing because of the influence of a politicized islam at the school. When i was a student one of the assignments we have. For our history was. A painting by an old master. The painting that i chose to copy was it was a cross from across the pacific ocean. Was amusing in the beginning you know because its such a horrid notion. I was always intrigued. I mean. Religiously me doesnt matter whether its a strategy your buddhism or hinduism. His journey all these excavations have taken him into a part of both the military and Southeast Asian pop past that today hes very contentious which is basically the very vibrant and still very vital previous let me pass influenced by hinduism and buddhism hes painting a buddha hates for example the malays didnt go. Read off the air please allow me to be should be rationalized and there was a process of a metamorphosis in which such views i believe in very nicely with more mystical trends in this life and the millions were mystics. And that has been the experience of islam for all the essentially up to very recent times in the past forty or fifty years. The challenge of. Puta technical islam has been a more recent one. The rise of wahhabi islam terrorism Al Qaeda Islam nine eleven ism you know bush reactionism all these kinds of things we understand islam within that within that because of islam has. So many dimensions. In which people can operate in gravity and our it is our reductionist approach not just by non muslims but increasingly by muslims that islam is exclusively and its this aspect of islamic law what can and cannot be done dominate everything from briggs im going. Back to the school where i found someone slashed the three things. There was a group or. Quite radical muslims running around in the temple. In those days. And i think it was. Of course it is a difficult climate to be controversial in this country because. You know that i feel that the controversies attacks are really generated for political reasons. Thats a political project in terms of wanting the country to remain. And the middle east in particular in the muslims in particular to be a certain kind. Really a certain kind of muslim you know conservative tradition no. I think with all fundamentalists and conservatives is a is about control conformity power and the having the sole power and authority to decide this is how you should think this is how you should act this is you should change. I first came to london in mind made forcefully. When you live in the militia you dont go to secret. The office to get my or you see the books magazine. What are you looking for i see a piece of art. From where i dont look or feel you know its more a bar to the piece makes your hearts skips a bit theyre not so orthodox theyre im interested to know if i look at it and it doesnt do anything to my feelings that. You know. I didnt do much wrong. The brains in the book is. Hardly in the soul. Sort of production. In the things. On the wall then the theory of these. Connections got right in this nothing like that. You know a lot of young artist looks like a place like this. One the success you know behind the successes a lot of hard work you know a lot of disappointments and so you have to learn to have all those you know not all the authors who are shown to have an easy life you know if you look at. Those works or see in the last gallery you know the life we see. You know those were the early days of modernism you know and they have to struggle to find a language a new language to speak you know to get rid of representation. You know so they have to feel that we were around and it was it wasnt easy you know today you look at them theyre nice here in this. Nice modern museum you know. The artwork looks so christine on the wall you know the making of it is different. I think we. Can. Get solid western discourse you know so even when i was in school we learned most about history. Theres very few we should not history even today. Theres no critique of. History. And no one is really writing serious stuff about subjugation i sort of can barely put into it into a. At Historical Perspective i think its a shame and then. If youre not serious. You go into the western. Here you see in this is. When you put all these things that you grew up with even though these are mostly and they were handed over theres a lot of mystical spiritual things that goes on you know you see she grew up we have the rituals and all that and how do you place that where do you place that because those things are not going to be acceptable. I love indian food. With all its youre going to. Look at it. Nevertheless im also oh yeah yeah you have the feeling we can dance while cynical and small yeah we should go make it so we make it three. Million rebellious to be fashionable you know. But i think a lot of kids dont understand that rebellion is a process you know it has to end up. In some sort of a conclusion you know who you rebel against something bad. You have. The production in mind to make things better you know if you dont just rebel rebel because its special you know because. Rebelling is not a job. Its not a career. Youre a bell when you want to change them. When jackie moved into baby news she of course caused some controversy. Its a way of gauging social attitudes the sense you see nudes and minute as pornographic i want i admire the courage that he has you know to draw things that are not politically correct you know the boot up the teams the new you know and these are things that are supposed to be the good muslim you know what god do in which of course incur the wrath of you know the conservatives within society but i think its irrelevant to him these are very important ways of challenging the notion of what comprises islamic tenets. You are born and you you die. And i dont think its. So much. An overt sexuality of the human body its alkies preoccupied sort of trivial one was a painting that triggered the new series. I couldnt figure out how to make a painting with a new. Newts was actually a direct response to a smile involved and so it was a it is not something that is ignored in islam in fact its contemplated a great deal in in islam the nature of sexuality which is then related to the nature of being all of these can be findings with respect to be sure and at heart i think hes going to see if you see painter. The reason hes not wearing any clothes is because i want him to be in this mess for the state so you do come i would fight him whether. Hes wearing western clothes always been closer or whether he saw this resort know who he is so universal. It was something totally against islam. But then the works will never man to be about. It off the system it has elements of that but it was never meant to be a role to go or sexually explicit. When our first thought of a new series in a. Response was you know some people think im gay he. Was just five being you know. I dont for him find anything wrong with being gay. Some people thing dirty. Very few people can connect it to something religious so whats wrong with erotic painting. I dont see anything wrong with it and now if people one to choose to be offended by it then thats their right to be offended by it but they dont have a right to impose their values on other people who dont share those values so you know i mean what more artists they should be totally free you know to paint what they want to paint i always remember that some of the most erotic poetry that you have in the world today written by muslim mystics and people like rumi have peace and i dont and i see that he in this light. Although you know the painting is this painted by me you know but to complete the work it has to interact with. The public im giving the audience. The minimal of clues should be. So that you can open up your minds you know im giving you a lot of room to room to to interpret. Religion and. For me. To it its. I pads on various traditional subjects and in the works. The belly dance. Piece is. Actually is the next sauces and we should waltz music. And gun patients. If spot form where there is someone sick in the house it is banned by the boss government in and climb time because its seen as a mis rubbing. But. They still practice it today but for us it could be this other kind of things which which. Interest me you know that their. Spiritual aspect aside of of this before me so this advances the musicians you know theyre all down forgot the dance drama form called the young which is an all female dance drama form is very much rooted in the belief that we all possess animal spirits. Animal spirits that then define our own personalities so we may be eagle we may be crocodile we could be a lion you could be a tiger we could be a wolf as a gala and sometimes you know i may take like. A dirty little animal like. That but use a. Small dirty animal i saw it in the sink you dont want to take it home with you. You know i was compelled to make this bobby rush. Into something that this isnt profound even and i can only do that if i inject myself into it i gave this little animal my personality for many people of course its shocking because we had been severed of that mythological tradition and today you go to large parts of Southeast Asia and particularly in malaysia not only are these kinds of myths. Not encouraged they are seriously abused and made illegitimate. The current series im working on. Is. Dale from the primordial god and. You have that thing within you that what i mentioned is. Doing things beautifully. But then you have the other side of you you know the dark side. The more. Disturbing aspects of your personality that has to come out to be in islam you know like in bali good and evil six together. Both are creatures of god. I see him within a continuum. Of artists who carry this primordial spirit that is very particular to this region when he paints he actually invokes an entire landscape of this of this place that has also very strong historical resonances you do understand you entering a landscape of color and of a sensibility of a temperament and of a kind of spiritual memory. John meldrum. Only if i got it down leave it might be the way i hang up. The watch people. After i was in the studio a little and you know its nice to so cool to please where. Theres a crowd. And this is my guy and i think. I know where everyone goes to see what my wife is sleeping and it fits nicely being that time for me. Is done especially because im alone. And im especially late live you know you i dont get form polls and. So its my this is the time i have for myself actually yeah we did night after midnight when everyone is asleep and you know thats my time. Was. This particular series that put the sunni on the disappeared series was a series which i wanted to do especially on on on j. B. As a talk because at least once in my career i would like to acknowledge you know the town where i grew up in the way i was born. With disappear into the studio to stock up on the streets. And into the jellies behind the streets. It just recalled a life. People. In the fringes of society. Oh i dont thing im. I liked even job it was im anonymous yeah. Its just a place where i was born you know i grew up here its a small town very simple life. The town is growing also i might have to move. In but. You know. The way i was born and i like being here. I dont like the big cities. This is actually a lot of studies which i did so i go on coachmen city. We were traveling we have a group of indonesian artists we ran around so id gone looking for a model but we couldnt find any you know but in hand. We found a couple of models in there in a brothel actually. We should who really do pose for us. I dont normally do female nudes. I dont have much of a choice. When youre drawing in the nude you know naturally the officers and comes into it you know. And here i think i tried to capture. That sense reality but very quickly. Although its a very conservative country and we have. This is what we would call the moral police you know if youre sure everyone behaves. You know i mean ive been drawing and painting utes for years and. Have never bothered me. The female new use its not anything new isnt it obvious has been growing news for the centuries but its just that here in this country people get the big a bit sensitive. I would prefer drawing a female rather than male myself to see. That thats. Not nice to see a nude man life in front of you was. My children. Go to school. And i know what each school. But you need to look at you know when to come home with me. Because im going. To learn an alternate view. And i still go on to study exposing them to a lot of things. Talked to them and. I. Told her. About susan. And especially about. Not being afraid to explore. Not to be afraid of other cultures religion to be able to still be a muslim but still be a man who. Euro. What unites. What divides. The to. Try to push. What binds the continent together. Answers and stories aplenty. Spotlight on people. Thirty minutes w. Plz plug into why child play around is taking about the the top of please your favorite to play. A little baffling to bring them up to look at your local cultural events in the entire country the champion of free and feeling for the last sixty years dublin for minds. A blessing and a curse the force of nature and inescapable fate. Monsoons for the child the downforce that shed like to play with the soul of the subculture last summer slim to cause an enormous destruction play long soon started may twenty third dublin. 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