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DW I July 3, 2024

Artificial Artificial Intelligence ever. I found her one day down in my super messy basement for 30 years. My old commodore 64 sat down here, computing who knows what, at some point must have been a short circuit, probably involving some poor red and the whole made quantum dimension distortion device. Because suddenly i calculate that for ion, and before you ask the answer, there she was. I decided to make a nice body for her. To high stuff a hi human good works. The take can compute, talk, dance about as well as i can, and if necessary, destroy humanity. Pretty much everything except vacuuming. For this documentary though, i want her to help me figure out the relationship between humans and robot. The i was born in 1971 and the machines have always fascinated me. As a child, i devoured all the science fiction. I could find when people ask me what i wanted to be when i grew up, i usually said a cosmonaut, but a close 2nd was a job that had something to do with robots. And my old buddy, i wrote me a connection each seems to have had a similar experience. If i used to say no, i can definitely say that i grew up liking robots in the socialist czechoslovakia. Or if the 19 sixtys or what on the, on the shelf above my bed, i had a copy of topics. All you hawks lessons, universal robotics edit. Well edit roll songs you will need, but its a little, its all just on the russians. Universal robots or are you are, is a play by car road shot back written in 1920. Its where the word robot was used for the very 1st time. This is another old friend told us have a, i met him in 1987 in the Computer Club ever since weve gotten together when ever we can have a beer and talk about god the world computers. And whether theres actually a difference between all of those things and my okay, my to check, check himself and mine to leon evans cole. I remember my teacher, mrs. W, saying that we could Program Computers however we wanted, but they never be small. So then we were even then i dont, i felt that in certain areas like to be small to if i knew that i could design a Chest Program, pull the could be paid for getting that come with that. Id already disprove for my teacher was safe on the also home and i live without it. Like most a i weve made so far, a Chest Program can only perform one very specific task. So it does it extremely well, the gentleman i am savvy. Another who am an officer, a slam foot approved grammar, and i teach machine is to write poetry. So i pretty much tried to make myself or done to the dialect the most im probably on poetry machine is called elo quinn. Tron, 3000. It regularly posts, work on social media doctor and as soon the of the current version can do less pulling suppressed staple, thems opponents, but nature christmas and last lot 50. Those are all younger as we hear all the time. And thats why i think its a job we can leave to machines at all times because i think i want to come there already. So many techs like lease or the phone. So why should i keep doing it myself instead of money instead of amused the other quinn . Tron uses a random generator estimate facilities. It works by using quite a lot of interconnected random selectors and throw databases of words. This are then combined with verse fragments to create newborn son. And yet that was enough to make headlines in big german media outlets. The poems were praised as for profound and many social media posts by humans. So easily impressed by philip machine control to get the poetry so easily. Maybe that says something about, you know, create cubes. Are they poems, can computer code and random generators create art in the world of visual arts . That question was being asked as early as 1965 pronounces on it. Yes, the 1st exhibition of the Computer Graphics that was billed as an Art Exhibition to deb of artists who came to see it or open arms that you could give a machine some rand numbers and who could help to applaud chairs on a den call. The thing it produced the card with you on the step on the hook and is a media theorist and runs and Electronic Media lab at Berlins Humboldt University for a computer nerd. Its like stumbling into aladdins case. The yes, the com final question was on that 4 point should the imageries these machines were making be considered art then, and there was some artistic discourse when the viewer wasnt asking. Cool, so how did the machine do this . But obviously, what does this picture one to tell me . Sorry . Doesnt to sound whats interesting. Of course is that computers back then were miles behind what we call Artificial Intelligence today. Highest german philosopher a kathleen missile hall and has written books on the ethics of Artificial Intelligence. As he does have done is done. Its not really that ai is so great. Its the fact that we humans simply have a tendency to interpret artifacts with certain structures as being human made. So interpretation. 2 we create the art by looking at it. Its a bit like looking into the clouds and seeing mystical creatures up there. Its not the clouds being creative. Its us. An electric sheet. I just t unicorns he does, he thought i was going to everyones, hes their own work of art. If what i see makes me feel something, then its worth transition to the main feeling i get looking at take this 1st picture is pride. After all, im Something Like her foster father. It doesnt quite match up with the amazing work my daughters do. But take was still a beginner. The what we tend to call Artificial Intelligence today is a concept based on artificial neural networks. Inspired by the way, human neurons work a bit confused. As to at that time, you know, networks can be trained to create a picture of a cat or a face or anything else, but they have no concept of what a cat, a face, or an artwork is they simply search for and generate patterns using huge data sets people can from want to get them computer scientists. It has nothing to do with the i is really just the big data and statistical tool, but its such a big data and such complex statistics. We no longer understand how the thing were looking at was made. What ever you call it. The results can be impressive using simple descriptions, tao e to software from open a i generate fascinating, surprising and yes, even emotionally, captivating images. The prompts can be as simple as friends kafka is dreams, or old men celebrates birthday alone as an oil painting. How the a i interprets the text prompt is at least as fascinating as the finished paintings. I think thats great. Even so at the end of the day, dolly too is simply varying what its learned from millions of training images. Humans only rely on q inspiration as well as one of them interested use his health. And we can say that people are also just drawing from a diet to buy his must when they may caught, or do something creative altering and its just a product of all their experiences in life. They absorb them and then my modified them into something may have some advice noise. Thats what yeah, you just call your task basis, inspiration, or even fluids. Do you really think youre the only ones who can make something original . Because these types of fun . I think we have cost that now im positive that computers can also be creative. We have a question, you might just be clear tv teeth. We only have to nice some of these creative. When we know that a computed for them. But as long as we dont know that all this stuff, its the same as well. Humans do, does invest. Mentioned if art is about ability, then these things are art. But maybe art is about the desire to create a i dont want anything. They dont want to express anything because they have no feelings to express. Theyre just tools to me. My kids are better artists because their picture showed their wonder, their discovery of the world, the joy they get from painting performers. Gamut inc. Used in a program called g, p t 3 for their piece over the edge club revisited. They made the music themselves, but some of the lyrics were created by a guy the best the then keeps to be, then i give them a single word and they immediately spit out whole pages of random text. Those least in the read these tags to my make kind of sense and we read and read and then youre frustrated to him by because you have no clue when its supposed to stop for its actually going. He gave the performance piece tells the story of current and historical ai programs that live on within the dream of a futuristic quantum computer. They ask themselves fundamental philosophical questions like we all do to him, i software or am i human face . Yeah. But to see if i could stay there while it was training g, b, g, 3, a centrally read through the entire internet and learned which words appeared with what probability and what position and text on a given topic. So the process was all about big data statistics and pattern recognition h been, i couldnt split his pass good be to the program doesnt what to tell us anything and it has no understanding of what it writes each bit 9 is that so sometimes the and speaking is not that different from writing to these a voice assistance are already pretty good at hiding the fact that theyre just ones and zeros. Computers dont have to be intelligent. They just have to pretend. In that sense, were not so different from you. I mean, take a look at the humans and tell me youre not always acting as if you are intelligent. The 12018 google causes the sensation by having in a i called duplex make an appointment for a hair cut over the phone between 10 and. Ringback oh, how can i help you . Hi, ryan. Um, im looking for something and may 3rd. Sure. Give me one second. Mm hm. Really has the expression, me receive such applause. That was it re, ill call you just to. I worry that will soon be at the point where we cant tell whether were talking to a human or a machine. If you cant tell them what they should be worried about, just be happy. Someone wants to talk to you or so, especially the single type, the big thing that makes it problem magic is the computers are only program to give the optimal responses to the needs of the users. And im the clinic esmerelda started the cleanser may of course when it comes to consumers, theres the question of whether one day people will prefer to interact with artificial systems because its easier. And because of these characteristics were talking about, they always know what to do. They dont argue with you, they dont cause you any trouble. And this is whats now becoming more sophisticated. These programs are having a few moments of resistance built in like social a eyes might be jealous of your friends. But thats just to make the interaction more interesting for the user. So its the center. So my whole world that fiber optic you progress in quirks and mistakes and current flows to make off the more human semester. And what does this process tend . Every example on friendly voices and have a different effect than one who was who was really well behind overall. But the says one thing come into Something Else. We know from experiment. So this goes down incredibly well. And it leads human uses to attribute a great deal of intelligence to the machine as if thats Great Potential that, that i need to make the robots more human. All mentions out some do for a human and then go often enough. Then we might become your friends, best friends. These systems can recognize emotions based on things like facial expressions and vocal expression, but only on a level thats commonly used to describe psycho perhaps that is purely cognitive without true empathy. But thats great. You can tell us your worries, instead of burdening each other with them, then save you, schumann, french. But the nice thing, and now this is literally the copies of this special. So they just dont, although that would take the capital as trappings of all relationships, to the extreme, with everything just being in service of what benefits us and makes us feel good instead of communicating our needs to a being who can truly understand them. And also empathize with them. They fall on the deaf ears of a robot. I really believe that its in peoples interest to have deep human interaction. Relationships on mutual terms and recognition. And empathy is included in that a lately, theres been a lot of talk about how robots can help us deal with a shortage of nurses and caregivers. Robots like, gar, me developed by sammy, how to deem and his team, but can robots really care for people comfort them and talk to them . Or do we have Something Else in mind . It isnt kind of legal. How about us . And how about the us . Is there not true about nurses but robotic assistance, providing support in the nursing field of things like pick up and drop off services that are opening the door. Helping people get out of bed on things that can allow people to live independently in their own homes with them. And secondly, finding better ways to support caregivers so that they can provide better care, explain people. Its key is that we dont want to develop the technology to replace caregivers and its always about supporting the caregiver. Its good for emma on deal with this. Good. So in some situations, a patient might even prefer a robot choice. Human monica and i wouldnt mention use this, its the probably a lot of older people, me included non getting it would find it uncomfortable to have a 23 year old nice and helping them with that totally intimate center to meet. Then i have both of emergencies in that case on comes with, i would probably prefer wrong, but i cant get, im pretty good with the blush on easy, but thats something people should be allowed to decide for themselves. But what if robots replaced human care instead of complementing it since 2015, a cuddly robot called pyro has been helping to care for the elderly and those with dementia. This ones actually just a stuffed toy. The real robot was too expensive. Anyway, i have take that even if shes not quite as culturally, dimension becomes there was an outcry when patients started using this robotics fuels and people said, what kind of Old Folks Home is this whole sort of culture as this were old people are fall off with robots to which the response was almost yes. And what kind of culture is it . When children you longer visit relatives in the Old Folks Home. And the robotic seals are all they have is off and you gets an employee has an impulse to own a fake meaning clue. Talk on to say its just an invitation, not real about been open to for one sided experience is a social relationship. If it works for the person doing it, then, then its just the kind of relationship which the to only to say otherwise. But if it, because theyre all real feelings involved, these are that puts in place to go through to with it for you. If you want to but whether you want to assist in helping people to the kids, or whether you just want us to help you keep them christ and cut costs, thats up to you. So maybe now we can finally talk about how you should treat the labels resolution. Take 3 a robot knows no pain. Todays robots, at least, feel nothing, no matter what you do to them. You can take them, push them, lock them away, or play them your least favorite music. They dont really suffer a smart girl. Thats easy to fix it. Let me miss treated as much. Lets see. One miss treatable does something to us in mind is that you do for mention last 5 spanish and i can do things to them that would be morally wrong to do to humans. We hit them, we insult them. When we do those things, i think it affects our own moral character. And ultimately thats going to have consequences for how we see our relationships with those who arent robot as a systems. And i know why we dont think of different to some of them being violent towards the robot somebody. And thats a good argument for us humans to have some kind of advocate for treating robotics whatever that would be. An important thing to have for our on site because humans seem to be the home businesses. We tend to think of persons. Treatment of animals says something about how they treat people. Maybe one day well say the same about the treatment of robots is not a good reason to be nice to us. We dont forget anything. And then one day the they usually have good memory because they, the ships may well have destroyed ourselves before it ever gets around to it is why after all, and everywhere we look right now there are opportunities for us to come to our sales ice of the equation or the like most of the so far weve always dealt with a guy in robots as useful, but non threatening worker bees. Theyre much better than us at one specific task, but they have no self awareness. They dont understand one to feel anything. They can only simulate all those things, but on the other hand, theres only one in the worlds that i know for sure has a consciousness and feelings me. And even that i cant actually prove these until a point come yet. That millions estimates for comes to. I mean, if we think of ourselves in terms of computers, were programmed by evolution to feel happiness. When we hunt and killer willie, mamma, thoughts have got tommy, says, was paid. And maybe thats just the simple, stupid mechanism thats built into us. And we think its a feeling about us funding that day. So you can call around in circles with this. I think you get stupid advice thinking about as really thinking a 100 and youre free is on the if up on the blue, the amount of the nothing. I can really understand the people who dont want to deal with the question a tool and just believing god, just as a fight seems. Yeah, the been game when i bought and got thrown. And so the question is, is there something in us that will never be able to explain using science as a strict atheist . I dont believe there is, but still def hoggard metadata here on the left. This fund for the items to that question by going back to live and that she knew, he said to her complex machine like a windmill before, which is one of the most complex machines then and it works. You take it apart is you dont find what he called, so you put it back together and it works the same as before. You can do that with a human being. Thats quite a good interpretation for me to put the tool. Again, also, so one foot couches vacuuming will figure that one out to the will have sold 2 point. Oh, what will you do then . Have you thought about that . Thats definitely something to think about. Who knows one day on some Circuit Board quantum computer or, or, and a computer built in a bio lab. We might make something thats conscious and feels for at least something we couldnt be certain. Didnt feel the problem then wouldnt be that it might want to take over the world. But that we wouldnt be able to simply exploit the mine

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