Hm. Mm mm. Do. Nick is dusty ali even. Yeah. Oh no sky and she dont even bother. Oh, in bond ocean. Golly. Gone by knocking them on. I bet on the day in line. Oh, were there in the mid th voskus and mister beats of which i was possibly sterilized in the medical experimentation facility of vesta vince hawk, bison, and myself. They said it was because we were anti social must be on this. My father was a conductor. My mother worked from home and we had a, its the dress law. My father was later banned from performing and had to work in a factory. So as anti social was known. So he says i people shouldnt just think of gypsies as People Living on caravan sites. I want them to see the human beings who even now 35 years after the war are still feeling the pain or not complete confusion ledge thing. Like one ish in a one vargas, one against the line warner night was joy and hi. And i live in a completely normal apartment is not some trailer enough, and of course i pay taxes dinged 99 percent of what ive experienced in the 32 years. Ive been around so good has been feeling good as if he were standing 2 steps down. Existing people just look at you differently. Yeah. And what i thought he liked, unless bargain um ah, ah, man popoff alana, key ark. Apple has poems of that melanie gala, this my po, rural, many for grandfather, them lashed together with harmony. Also during their Hunger Strike in dachau or tin. He said we had to go to the place where our people had suffered and we had to go on Hunger Strike their dies. The point was to show that the injustice discrimination, and ostracized ation hadnt ended continent. It does come in your home to ask pencil. It was the 8th of april 1980 day, 5 of a high profile Hunger Strike. 35 years after the end of the 2nd world war, the mass murder of europe, cynthia roma, had still not been recognized as a genocide before tyler. The prejudices that had been built up against us during the hitler eruption justify our persecution and extermination were never dismantled. Ab war, people here still think the injustices we suffered at the hands of the 3rd reich were legitimate under the nazis systematically murdered, cynthia and rome. Are people with estimated figures of up to half a 1000000 individuals in total among those taking part in the Hunger Strike protest at the former concentration camp and da, how was the grandfather of julie halle ledge to add them to spanish, and he hadnt himself been imprisoned. In a concentration camp, it at his parents had been off and of course that affected him treatment for its a pain that you carry with you for i meant, especially when society hasnt fully acknowledged that this genocide took place here in germany, when alongside died against the jews side and it still being suppressed to a certain degree, yet dig a should be convert. Ah man, router varnished as ish mit diesel lied from. It didnt call my mother didnt want me to grow up with this anguish and drama as soon. So she didnt tell me about it until i was about 10 years old. It it really upset me. Um, well, i was completely beside myself for about a we had advised on an rockell. Im book this aus cannot answer as fide, does my by as for speak, i can cause air ton knowing that my own grandparents said lisa, and it wasnt just my mothers parents but also my fathers parents just yet as kinda oh, kosovo. You knowing that they had been in an extermination cap in their childhood or youth and that people had wanted to murder them in word. So that was extremely hard for us to shun extreme for once. Ah, ah ah, the 2 here pit, this ceiling stance was the going on a minute chip c. And that was my number. I try to erase the number. You can see it grew back and the number reappeared. The n cook, a thing that i wanted to get rid of disease via that is right then ted, take my hon. Silly schmidt is one of the last survivors who can still recall the genocide 1st hand. She was born in that therein g, a region of germany in 1924 or me am du r vander, quino gabbed. My family had a traveling cinema kia, and thats what we earned our money with. Ah, everybody in the village would come running out. It may be time, no bone. There were always so excited. I love great. The word that mindy lee bow vaccine. We grew up surrounded by love under our family was close. Neither diva though. Youve had those need, dont like this. So id like this. And hey, we were a happy family. I me a gap. At 1st, when the nazi seized power in 1933 delay smiths father didnt suspect they were in danger. My father, my father, hadnt ever committed a single cry, not even j walking, not one. My father that i gala alisha man. My father was an honest rule. Abiding man. He said to me, i dont worry batch going to. Its only the criminal who hitlers after night. But now he adds any hell, it was us. He picked up and took away cuba, hed only to put the criminal g of and if we were the criminals there being nosy for. But i have a give her by her mia. The nazi stigmatized. Cindy, and rama people as criminals and anti social elements. They were systematically identified and registered the questionable justification for this practice came from the racial hygiene and demographic Biology Center run by Robert Richer and his colleague, eva justines. She hums also didnt insolence. They try to identify every single one of them. If rudolph lit up was determined to be able to identify said she had roma individuals or such even where those people were not themselves aware of it. Not because they took a look at people who his parents and grandparents could be counted as cindy or ro, madison. They compiled huge family trees for america. They took blood samples, a blue port, examined the color of their hair, and tested their speech. Faculties are fish and its certainly involved physical coercion, o g a while to to cause 14, the so called racial scientists called these family trees genealogies, any one who had even one grandparent falling into the nazis race. This concept of so called gypsies was at risk of persecution. In extermination. The racial hygiene and demographic Biology Center examined practically the entirety of german roma and cindy. In 1943 silly schmidt was deported to the outfits birkenau, extermination camp along with her parents. Her siblings and her 3 year old daughter gretel, she was imprisoned in what was called the gypsy camp. W. Yvonne mere canino then emptied from where we were. We could see the gas chambers come breton would run up to me saying, mamma, theyre burning people back there as its id say no gretel the baking bread that she said. No, john couldnt imagine all sorts of things they had. She was telling the truth of a death mamma, theyre burning people over there. Mamma, theyre very dementia. Barbara, and on august the 2nd 1944 silly schmidt was moved to the hive and split camp north of berlin as she was considered fit for work. That night, all the remaining, cynthia and roma and auschwitz were murdered, including silly, schmidts parents, her sister and her now 4 year old daughter gretel. In the class, when i was little while i was falling asleep, i would always think that if my parents die, i would die to. I didnt die with them, or i would have died with my child came today michelle. Her Julie Schmidt managed to escape from gardens pike and survived by going underground until the war ended around 5000 german roma. And cindy survived the genocide. Hundreds of them had been forcibly sterilized after the war. They tried to return to their homes. Thus when the lips and young emma is dying dog in the lima lucas to funder by a little under substance become thus lun. Father laga didnt mention shine. Hosen, z m. s effect. Also anybodys in shun flic. Gallagher, 24 by full noun about in leaks on ellipse to student. Gus, login. Enjoy your flu, cosmos. Glasses bunch, both these and plots their alice under the under kind of mentioned go to give, introduced this engine thomason after 945 log on the surviving center. And roma left the camps and returned home punkish, where they did not receive a particularly warm welcome thats ish fair to throughout west germany against us you could observe the same phenomenon, one that roma and cindy were only tolerated on the outskirts of cities clerks in temporary housing and homeless shelters that were pitifully furnished before they were displaced to the periphery everywhere snug on some goodness, which said gryphon. Ah, this footage is from the west. Germans state of baton burton bag. In the late 19 fifties. The coin family had bought a house in the village of marcos time, the quite this number of 9 family members. And were cindy. Aroma mister murray, i would assume youve made every effort to another sales and contract between the gypsies and the owner of this town until 6 of these houses here working tomorrow. Indeed, ive taken every action it was possible to take in the mini garage. Right . But the mayor was unable to reverse the sale. The night before the kites family planned to move in. Other villagers completely destroyed the house with a local pubs serving free beer to those responsible. He hadnt been, im sure they didnt intend to commit a crime here. They were just taking a stand for their homeland to defend it from the gypsies farms again to run. The villagers were charged with breaching the peace. They received political backing in the Regional Parliament from the conservative christian democrat, politician to bailey, as fonder, if attired, eagle, diesel land, freedom blue or black meal. I was responsible for defending this breach of the peace in the parliament and stood georgia. It was among the hardest cossacks and the greatest and most rewarding success ive ever had ever. Not one of my defendants was sentenced to more than 9 months invalid and all were released on parole. Our citizens all got off more or less without a scratch, duffel, and get coleman. Even the chief prosecutor said it had been the most peaceful breach of the p. So hed ever sail on. Pleadings broke in fine, a country lung and blacks escalation with their house. Now in ruins, the quite family was forced to live in a barn. 9 people sharing a single space under a tidal jacinto, the displacement of a d, and rama from urban areas. After 945 is a good example of Mainstream Society making a bogeyman out of minority city by creating circumstances that force people to live marginalized lives or an offer these would oh and in the end, this reinforces the prejudices. Theyve gone with it. I talked with manually to stein back and vermani vice grew up in west berlin in the 19th sixties and seventies. I think they put them under gulf model of gibson. I grew up with my grandmother of missouri and she always tell me the keep it down when i was playing. She was worried wed be thrown out of our home because of people complaining liquor, but it was in the middle of the day. Why the whole . Well, young transfer to find out from the me i had, she was scared that some one from Mainstream Society would come and tell us to be quiet isnt and that we werent allowed to do these sorts of things in germany. What have you off . What is it she was afraid of that because she still had the same fear. She had an outlet from, from, from, from outside. I young and against leilani toasted lintel full. We lived in an ordinary apartment building. We were the only cindy there somewhat from, but we drew attention because we looked a little different and a buddy my mother and my aunt didnt stand out too much. But my grandmother did almost with her. She was the only dark looking person and i was and she wore long skirts, but otherwise we always tried to blend in and not reveal who we really were often bundled. We were reserved anxious and cautious. You know, they look decent. We tried not to attract attention to not to do anything wrong with, and to always be upstanding new schools often. The sunshine own design, ah, the west german media selectively portrayed roma and cindy as destitute in the sixtys open racism was still no exception. And on public television, that slim starlets he go analogous unto vio, induce, spoke no income, visible nor in. Come talk to dauntless oscar sheets, wendy, to go not yellow, rhinoceros yard off. Keep leaving this folder for ben newman under ben as whats yolande elementary. Oh, these are kinda big and beautiful in these millions egon swung soldiers from fibrillation. That song one finished north from one to help a little cup of a little. The notion of cindy and rome are becoming anti social elements or criminals because they had abandoned, their racial purity, was adopted from the self styled racial scientists of the nazi regime. As was the terminology, after 1945, the physician hammon, i became a key advisor to the west german authorities. Essentially, he built on the Research Work conducted by the nazi era racial hygiene and demographic Biology Center. In a book published in 1965, he still referred to cynthia and roma as bastardize, primitive and devious. His claims were based on files compiled by the nazis scientific racism specialists. If i use theme, the scandal, news is thus d awesome for short, outrageously the so called race scientists were not among those prosecuted after 1945. And its equally scandalous that these files, which have rightfully been termed as documents for planning a genocide act, were not turned over to archive authorities even, but remained in use by the perpetrators of the timed in. They basically picked straight back up from where the allies had forced them to seize their work for a couple of weeks. Or pablo lunk, its one of 200 she earlier today, those records compiled by nazi scientists are stored in the federal archives and berlin in the 19th sixtys hammond, arnolds records were passed on to sophia, had at the university of tubing in a i had had likewise once worked at the notorious racial Hygiene Center with state backing, she used these not the accounts to published a study about the creases on the hands of cynthia and roma. And what they supposedly revealed this race, a pseudo science, was put to an end in the early 19 eighties, albeit not voluntarily on the part of air had on september 1st 1981 survivors of the genocide in their descendants occupied the basement of tubing ins, university to secure the release of the incriminating files, they found genealogy trees that stretched on for several meters, featuring degree of mixed blood alongside the names of individuals and romani. It was the 1st time they had physical proof of their peoples persecution. The bela de julia bellowed. This is van hard, good god, rest his soul. Bernhardt who was in our streets when every one was ghast your conscience and he we have did his too much show that my children rest is old. Austria oh spelled bound to my father. My father took less good issues. Thats me. And oberst pans, ill go stammered fee i did as you mama. Mamma is my mom doesnt get and thats me. This is monica stopped. Well, this is my eldest brother, this is my new law. And this is all my younger brother an archive documenting a program of murderous persecution, family trees, photographs, so called anthropological examinations. All records of a systematic sensors and genocide. They go mama. Oh i hence to revise became one of the most popular sent to musicians in west Germany Valley they go they go up in the guitarist and the medalist as nephew romani. Oh okay. Oh, cant ship them in. We have been mug eventually when i was desperate to perform on stage with my uncle, other i admired him so marcia, so i really gave it my all and put in a lot of practice. And in the late 19 seventies romani vice went on to join the famous, hence sheer vice quintet. This person was music was a way for me to prove myself and to express myself. Ah then yonder they explained, we were on tour and our trailers on the people would say things like that. But look, he come the gypsies or hide everything away. But once they realized we were those 20 the famous group who were there for performance, then they loved us off good tv on the radio, the press one, everybody showed up them with that that really drove the difference home to me. Here i was just another gypsy bit there, i was the star, and once i left the stage i was the gypsy again. Ah, in 1979, the hence shouldve eyes quintet had a performance and damage that the citys Church Authorities were hosting a cmt in realm and music festival. An event aimed at fostering intercultural relations. And the 1st of its kind of a michelle not an im. Thats it, all of our high touch, i recalled an old saying that bears a great truth in a country in which gypsies rome is one where freedom range for a country without gypsy his one without freedom. Lets see going. I good. Ill kind of like, oh, blinds youre so welcome moment, not just to day, but always harder on, on a more than 10000 people attended the music festival. Money at the conference you, people were looking for new encounters and meeting new people. They were ready to open up when im there were a number of boots with non cindy people too, who were engrossed in animating conversations with each other. As i mentioned to me, it was a milestone. We were being seen and heard, and not only on a musical Level National movie college. Why . Oh, not just a day, but only several weeks after the music festival, a number of roma families moved to down that darmstadt, stunt in my good woods oquendo. And as i did my birth certificate sighted darmstadt as my city of birth and listed camping ground as my address in my family had experienced displacement and persecution in serbia in the former yugoslavia to a photo. That was one of the reasons why they came to germany back there myself in storage and the commons and they were looking for a better lives and thinking that germany would be more open towards them to live until. But it wasnt head design can, was a bar initially, a local authorities assigned daniel van. If its his family, a house, then a middle class residential area. Weve on his my down quite a finished and one by me. One more 2nd. My family of ive had 1st, they were grateful that they didnt have to live in a trailer anymore. Hm. My family was simply glad to have a solid roof over their heads and Running Water just finished it for their basic sanitary needs were met. They were able to wash and eat normal meals and have a room for themselves home for the have them come. So that was a relief and i had offered lawson. But the neighbors were not so happy to see the Family Moving in. There were soon official complaints and the police were repeatedly called in, while the media reported on issues with what they called bay grants. Those i just have to come up. Why didnt you come and see for yourself what we do and who we are . And w