The question of this trial is whether its in the legal monopoly. I mean they, they control 90 percent of the search market. The governments going to argue that google searches like the digital air that the green, that the companies tactics of the polluted the atmosphere and its damaging the consumers. Google is going to say no, no, no, no, you know, competition is just a click away. People like us, people trust the we give them the best product, give them the best results. Also on the day, thousands, the data in thousands more are missing and loving in libya, International Aid organizations erasing to respond. Epic proportions is not being a storm like this. In the range and was that in living memory . So the work now is really to get in supplies, but get in look at a lot. Sadly some of those supplies include things like 40 bucks. Welcome to the day. Its being billed as the trial. It could totally be shaped the Tech Industry and to shake the home, but many Big Tech Companies have own that customers. An antique trust trial against google opened in washington dc. Today. Prosecutions allows the company illegally made itself the default app on many devices and services, crushing its competitive in the process noise for both sides of made opening statements. And a trial is expected to last 10 weeks. Its a 1st time and a quarter of a century that a tech company has faced Anti Trust Laws in the us. The last time was when microsoft was prosecute to the of the dominance of its internet explorer, a browse highly competitive way or maintaining that monopoly power in anti competitive ways. Such as, by making itself the, the default Search Engine, or through what its doing in the Search EngineAdvertising Market. Whats interesting though is this is a company thats incredibly popular with consumer and much of it, 6. And much of, of whats going on here is actually a question of should consumers be the one to decide what products are successful in the market . Or is there a Government Intervention to dictate what the market in search should look like . So because thats a motivation to seeing that a little bit, a cloudy, that is this green savings there really is just a sideways way of track. Ive tried to break up this and i know unless a company like god taking down al capones and not paying his taxes, as we certainly have seen a lot of scrutiny of big Cap Companies of these leading companies that are largely american on both sides of the atlantic actually weve seen a lot of scrutiny from european regulators, but interestingly, were also seeing a lot of scrutiny from us regulators on both the left and the right. This is probably a result of various political motivations that vary depending on whether youre looking at it on the left or the right. But also it represents a pretty dramatic shift in the way that weve seen competition policy use in the us. And what i see as a very concerning show away from something thats truly focused on the consumers and how the competitive markets are, are benefiting consumers or how anti competitive behavior, maybe farming consumers. Just something thats much more focused on kind of the idea of concentration in and of itself is a harm. The idea that competition policy is to be focus more on competitors than on the outcomes that are best support. So what do you think the outcome of this child is likely to be . Can you see google being broken out of, of perhaps just getting its wings clipped . A really interesting questions in this particular trial is what happens even if the government wins what, what, what would that look like in terms of a, a remedy . Because its not necessarily audience that there, there is a potential regulatory remedy now or slow. We stop and think about them, they are so anti consumer that its really concerning what those remedies would look like. The idea that when you open the web browser, there would be no default Search Engine. It. Were not ready to either have to just be random or you would have to go through additional steps to select a Search Engine when thats something that consumers have largely come to expect. The fact that this could change the Advertising Market when add to prices have generally fallen in ways of having audibly benefit small businesses. Were now able to advertise online much more easily than in an era where you had to purchase Television Advertising on print advertising. But i think the other really interesting question here is, what does this do to the innovation thats going on in search itself . What does it do in terms of the developments were seeing in a i the shift were saying to how jen z as is searching completely differently and things like voice recognition. And then finally, what does it mean when it comes to what competition policy is being useful . What would this mean in terms of how we would see regulators, particularly in the us, potentially pursuing anti trust cases in the future . Right, the, just on the, the, the 1st of the many points you made that you make, it sounds like quite a complicated business of changing your, your search provider. Im googles defense. And certainly when i use my phone or the computer is, i know its really easy to change Search Engines, thats actually not a huge a button on the consumer as well. It is very easy to change. Search engines right now, its only 4 clicks away on your typical smartphone. But most people expect that there is a pre set Search Engine that youre not opening up the phone out of the box with nothing preinstalled in it, but theres one and then you can can change it if you dont like that one. Or want to go to another one . I think that some of the question here too is, should the government be dictating what these business relationships can look like . And what products are offering to consumers when something comes out of the box . And interesting way, uh, on this side it month, it gives you as your hands about earlier, that you are paying union has just introduced legislative control, a big tech with a digital moffatts act designating a alphabet thats googles power company. And amazon, apple bite down stick talks of this, and meta, they own as a facebook and microsoft, the gatekeepers who will have now 6 months to ensure full compliance with these new laws. And can you see that being successful and something that the u, the u. S. Is likely to look at and try to adopt. It is very interesting to see this dynamic emerge between the you and us regulators. And i think its very concerning to see how many america leading american Tech Companies have really appeared to be the target of, of this kind of regulation that seems very specifically designed to go after not general practices, but those particular companies. These are leading Innovative Companies and were seeing them continue to compete, not only amongst each other, but against any number of emerging players, whether its in a i or whether its through the development of new social media or whether its 3 things in any wide array of of markets and industry. So when we see Something Like a Regulatory Framework in the dna, i really have questions about what thats going to do for the future of innovation. And again, is it really the role of government regulators to dictate what consumers should have access to in the market when we are continuing to see that this remains a competitive and innovative mark . So why event, dear thing, the us congress, which has consider this issue, many of the time failed to write the name, what have been called based anti competitive practices of these companies . I think its a failure. I think that the proposal to be seen are very concerning and the way that they shift the focus away from, from the consumer. The proposals weve seen in the us congress would actually largely harm consumers in the way that it would prevent them from having certain features that they come to expect. And except to be ability to you knows it. When you google, find me the nearest hamburger restaurant that a map pops up with the, the list of the hamburger restaurants that are in nearby. Or the way that when you are trying to find out more information or, or reviews about a place that you have several different options, including those options that may be built in to a service. But you can also very easily go to other services if you dont like the options that are available and, and google. And so when were seeing these regulations come in, what theyre telling companies is we think we know you think you know what your consumer wants. But we know better, and rather than let to be popular by serving your consumers, were going to dictate so that we can make sure that your competitors tab at the top, the same advantages that you have. So if youre more innovative, if youre more successful, youre providing more popular services, were gonna try it and regulate that in a way to, to, to make the product go down a level rather than allowing the Market Competition to raise everything up a lot. Its a quick word about money because of course, the big suspicion has pain that one of the reasons that big tech has been so successful that avoiding legislative oversights in the us system, more than 250 1000000. 00 ive spent on lobbyist advertising pay all companies, as well as political donations, can you see them being able to spend their way as of this going, the something that im really able to to speak on. What i will point out is that we continue to see a debate over anti trust and that its important that we recognize the value of the existing antitrust framework, which is objective and flexible and economically sailed to deal with a wide array of industries. And that we recognize that any changes to antitrust law, even if they may be nominally directed at big Cap Companies, are likely to impact the market far more generally. Good to hear. Thank you for taking us to that. So clearly, Jennifer Hudson from the cato institute, the causes of people have been killed and catastrophic flooding in libya. Files and id be International Federation of red cross and red crescent society. It says around 10000. 00 people are missing. After barreling across the mediterranean storm, daniel hate causing floods which swept away in time neighborhoods in eastern coastal areas, the destruction, east west and down the way to damns collapsed while ive got a corner of the City Emergency Services put down his current death told us around 2300 belief happened. So being complicated by the fact that libyas internationally recognized government and tripoli does not control the devastated eastern regions. Whole neighborhood submerged by will to residents in this area of east and libya come face to face with the devastation caused by the storm. Some buildings were swept away entirely by the force of wind and rain. While im going to the regions Armed Forces Say its almost impossible to currently assess the extent of the disease. Often you have a lot of them. Although for a number of affected people is very high, the damage is huge. I see the describe or measure it stuff please. Yeah, im not gonna really well. My father view it to him. Woman, i didnt have a social media such as shows the dom that was demolished because the raging flood torches into the coastal search. You have done flooding the central streets, age convoys make the way through gushing, move to this on the roads into done to reach resident stranded by the storm. The area has been declared to dissolve to zone and the libyan president ial counselors, appealing for international help. But as the head of the International Red cross in libya, time of ramadan, told dw rescue team his face. Hes challenges access to that 50 as easy as most easy. Uh, also the collapse of the facilities is a big, a big challenge that the, theres no access to basic Health Services in the 5th. And 6th is a communication is another dig deep charge because this is causing the problem is, is got and uh, accordingly the networks are not working properly. Uh, we, for long dollars lose communication with our teams on the account. Despite the difficulties, the search continues here for the thousands of people still believe to be missing. And we can take a closer look at this with a cloud. You have got see me whos a senior analyst, a for maybe a at the International Crisis group. She done just from wrote welcome to the top, do you have 20 but this is libby as 911. Why as well . First of all, it happened, the line isnt uh, and uh, in a certain sense this is a completely on, its a completely new experience for the but its a tragedy that the previous was the previous political feuds. I would say that even the war games could definitely has no comparison to. So its a, its, its a really a groundbreaking moment for a country. Its a travesty for those affected directly, but for the country as a whole, because in 40 years of theyve been history, weve never seen the storm of this extent was never seen a Natural Disaster of the system and so many casualties just in one day. So the comparison i think is at and its so devastating because, well there is this just been this con combination of capacitive faith, the size of the store. They add the apparent lack of preparation for, for the store, the collapse of these dams. It seems to be just one piece off the piles on top of another. Yes, exactly. I mean, nobody was expecting the town part of rain of this extent nobody could have been imagined. It even the bins and a plane metal socrates michel arrow decal, center hours. The full is the tragedy in the now we warning that we would not warning this as a, as a a catastrophic event. They thought this would be just okay, the storm as usual. So there was some misinformation there, but the, the, the content to your brain that came down is just of the charts. Thats one thing. The other problem was, of course, the infrastructure theyve been in the past 10 years, has not, you know, has had divided government has been intermittently. Well, thats my itself is one of the cities that has the most affected by war. Over these years. Its been, its been a war zone for 5 years between 20142019. So theres been very little infrastructural maintenance in that area, including on these you know, the small that them outside the city which completely collapsed. And in the end, the bringing down buildings and in the valley adjacent to the diamond and, and further in the center of the city. So this is the 2nd level of the 2nd tragedies that the infrastructure didnt hold up. And i think were going to witness a 3rd tragedy, which is that the rescue efforts are going to be very difficult because roads are being blocked. This area is isolated to reach the from the guys which is the main. So do you nice and libya you have to go through various cho, cho, point switch as far as we understand now, are still not accessible. Uh, so its in bridge that is a faulty road that is broken and so on and so forth. And just a few minutes ago, there was an alert from authorities a nice and theyve been saying that another dime in the outskirts of been guys is also it risk them warning and of us can able to evacuate. So that could even complicate things that and this is your site, the controller because of the country is still contested with different governments in the east and the west. And this devastation is in the east of those 2 Governments Co operating on towards and 19 gra, rescue and relief efforts. Well, so far were not even seeing relief effort. So i cant even say that their cord and hits includes when we, when lets see relief efforts and the data, for example, a 48 hours after the tragedy. That hasnt been one rest. You come by reaching the city. I havent seen footage of rescue teams even leaving buttons as a so so, so up until now with not see anything on the ground moving in terms of coordination between the 2 governments. Theyre talking to each other and they have been for months, but its more under the tables that have conversations dealing and leanings, whether this now will leads to an outright sort of corporation. We can only hope so. Were not seeing evidence of that yet. Were not hearing that and certainly some of the statements from the politicians when were not hearing that, were hearing the people saying, you know, its put politics aside. Lets join hands. Theres a human to human solidarity, you know, people to people solidarity on the ground. But we havent seen that type of vocal opening of hand from the additions by get, i dont on the, the lack of preparedness of being infrastructure. I guess part of the eventual recognize is going to be well, well, these 2 dams, a collapse with a fit for purpose and was corruption a factor as well . I think thatd be pushing a bit too far. I mean, 1st of all, we have to acknowledge that the volume of water that came down was, as i said off the tight. So we dont even know if, if you dance where there would if, whether they would have held any way. Because the volume of water and the speed that at which they came though it came down from the mountains. Uh, it was extraordinarily beyond any possible sort of planning in terms of engineering of dance. But certainly the, there is the fact that they have the no upkeep of the infrastructure, at least for the past 10 years. No, no, any of these dams, of all the infrastructure, the roads, bridges in eastern libya, but even in western libya. So its, thats the state the country is, and i wouldnt blame corruption for that. I would just, i would say that that is the side effect of the country that has been intermittently at war. And where you have these political views between various center has a power, where politicians or military authorities are more interested in harming out their own authority. I am and the proclaiming the, you know, governments legitimacy and few do over the control of funds. Rather than write planning rather than rebuilding and those things that a country need, just sort of a quick well then yeah, you said that theres no relief efforts out as yet. So do you expect that to be an International Assistance and how will