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DW The 77 Percent July 23, 2022

Still occurring. Children are still being forced into these sites. Do we give or who do we sit down more should be left untouched. We have to mind the doubles the government agents that are supposed to be protecting, supposed to be challenging the companies to deliver the arc lighting or who didnt introduce or brochure ah, hello, and welcome back to the 77 percent. The show for africas youth this week we are in coy doing this is sierra leons, rich mining district. And in this country you will find literally anything from coulton to ion or, and dian was, but it is extracted and very quickly exported. And so today we want to find out are those exports translating to world for the young people who live here, who better to answer this question for me than fellow thoroughly onions. And were going to begin with abraham, and i just want to an overview from you because of often i did say that, you know, had it said that minerals and rich, his natural riches, particularly for africa, can be occurs. What do you think of this as it occurs . Well, i think very contrary. Ah middle cannot be a course. And domains are meant for beneficial. Amen for development proposals, its all depend on the type of talent people have in the given sovereignty. Let me hear from e a here he is a student, but he was also mining and in the minds from a very young age at 14, from on story. When i was 14 years old, i was going to school, i was on the agenda 2nd i school in se leon, i was giving this kind of support from a really, its, hes almost been, weve been in our office to see how we can get our livelihood it was a difficult, very challenging because as a younger adult skip school by then to go to the mines. The give support because that was your list of live you we had and even on so thats i be alex kept up at gl a p or not a falling out of school because a lot of colleagues whom we, we and that stayed with whom i started school in with because of mine and activities. And because of, you know, the defects of men in activities that we only before education to day a good number of them are dropouts. So if we look at the impacts of them of mine and to use jo in the Wider Population saloon for me, it is much of course because we are not getting the kind of given him. Were not getting the kind of profits. Okay. And by the way, we should mention that where we are right now is a big mine that operates just beyond this mound. And what we are seeing is a byproduct of that blasting rocks which are then put crushed into smaller pieces by the women were seeing in the background to then be sold to construction workers. So id like to hear from the mayor, because weve heard that this region, despite its riches, is not reflective of the diamonds and the gold thats coming out of this region. So im wondering why you are right on the reflection offered in Natural Resources. We have, you got lots actually tell what are the deimos the goals or im in iraq. Instruct info. Got all what actually this is a place we are. Those near us are both on the contrary to say, mineral deimos or whatever. I mean, or are given or is it cause is not a cause. The availability of the Natural Resources has into the is not a problem. It is approved by utilization of immuno resources that are the problem. Policies around instruction of minerals. These are the problem is if we have a good gov on our system or system put in place how to extract and even if they say we pulled together when to bring those a machines, those technologies, how to transform those Raw Materials here into a finished product. Actually let me, let me, let me just bring in slime on here because you spoke of policy and he is from the National Mining agency, the body that is supposed to enforce policy and also created around the extractive industry. So is it right . But the may a saying that we just have a lack of that leadership from National Level that she, i can show you of form now from 2018 that the willingness is clear. Now whats the address is, is, is, is focusing on mili, is to see the committees where they are didnt, where these measures are coming from, the benefit from the. So given sure that the committees to sign the Committee Room argument with the communities. So the, at the end of every year, the gross revenues, some positive Competence Committee to have the committees that these with this wants to see and show that projects are been a implemented lima. Hold on a, is the ready disagreeing with you . Yes. And if you look at what Mining Companies are getting from, cannot dispute from the mining that you are doing . And we compare it to the impact in a community. It is not common. Sure. Its even a Community Development agreement, id say to sign with those communities. The amount that is getting back to this community is it can only take no tangible Development Projects look at the community. For example, we have a close one community, which is a located community, which is a settlement. This community lacks water. They are not even accessible at the city and they are very close. That is Mining Company. So what are we talking about in sense of Community Benefits and from the mining . What does the Sierra Leonean government see about who minds where theyre allowed to mind . How much comes back into the community . Water thats from him every year. Know what, what this, these settlements, the idea of this, you have a years that we will have water, where every day we learned and these were those groups we, we tell people, this is the problem of the people is the problem people. So its ongoing. Yeah, its going to address most of the seizures. We know the, the issues the, the mays raising his hand on that side. But i want to hear from mary for a 2nd because you grew up in a place that has been mining for a really long time. In fact, some of the earliest time was discovered where you grew up. Did you see this reflected as you were growing up . You know, thats yes. We have good agreements with oh, youre really shaking your head. No. Okay, go ahead. Tell me. Before this time i think the i was a better system in place. Many people benefited from me before even we, we are born. I think we had of the benefits that our home parents, while grandparents we are benefiting. So for the fact that m m mining or diamond as a resources, i mean as a resource, been a cause to us. I personally disagreed with that foster fall because god cannot bless you. And in tom ca see again, it is sweeter individuals. It is where the leaders are lead us of beer. What actually i did doing in our thats will see that the, the, the actual are yet on bond be, are benefiting, or they will be benefited from these. My main accompanies odd from these resources. All right. I want to come to patrick here because hes actually wearing a shirt that says, ethical minerals. And what a mary has touched on is really important that previously there was a system that worked for everyone. But of course the war came. And so the tam blood dam one and conflict diamond arose, to what extent did the, what change and shift the way people think about extractive in this country. Before the war came, i believed ariannas says nadia. Well, now you have the awareness read the you are coming up to, we are went to school. We really, we, id call her to go to school. So now daughtry, im going to go to school. You want to see that, that the translates. If you calmly comes to do this, necessary needs for the community. Ok for them to all right, let me speak to isa here for a 2nd because were hearing that, look, the policies are amazing, is just the implementation that sucks. And ive had Big Companies being named here, but you as a small scale minor, are you one of the people who is deterring development from happening perhaps because of bad Employment Practices . You know, i deal with a lot of people are almost 50 minus people working for me under daily circumstances. Theyve got kids that cannot even feed. Theyve got kids, they cannot even take to the hospitals. They sleep in houses where when they cramps and crowded with no mattresses, whatsoever they slip on the floors and showing the letter is not because youre not paying the miller now we pay ram when i got her as an example, im not sure if im supposed to say we were paying the minus 70 cent poverty. I thought i wasnt enough. We pay room a dollar. And when the dam on comes out, its the phase. They tell us how much the ones for it and we negotiate. So we actually support them. So make sure they can get on the field and work. I want to come back to a for a 2nd because i want to understand, you know, i think for people who dont leave will come from places where their minds, the imagination is that you come in, you mind for 2 days. You get a diamond thats about 50 carrot and then your life is set. But whats the reality . Well, the reality it is on to spears. For example, if youre doing not to sell mine and previously like a about 2 of medicaid, single, some people will say by then i was very young in b b, i was not even born to the kid baby kid sequel. They will say like to leave the radio, leave the opinions or whites its all mency. Let me go to the mines in grants, examining, come by looking at the train. Now for the past they are one decade now let us change eventually on average, how long would in a to slow might not be at the mines before theyre able to extract something meaningful to the awesome people. If you expand from stories to tell you that ive been mine and for the past 3 years, it have not gotten a single down. Some people to love mine for about 3 years. The dumb ones ive gotten from the mines. It is only worth about 50. 00. Okay. Let me hear from penndot. Its here because hes actually a very busy man. I was looking to him earlier, but hes actually embroiled in apes, lawsuits active against big Mining Companies because of various reasons. So is what were hearing from a reflective of what youre seeing in your profession, that its the big Mining Companies, were making it big, whereas the communities are basically going with nothing. Our cameras was really a strict stick to these matters because they are subject to who decide proceedings. But our just referred for the fact that ive been, ive been out of disability communities are calling out unseen. Weve been oppressed, weve been abused by Mining Companies, and they are not respecting the laws and policies as articulated by the leadership of this country. What most worrying is not the calmness be of your that is worrying to the communities. Is their leadership attitude towards the oppression cause of pressure on our expert to show that is what . What is it where we consult with them in timber is what they always raised under problem. We have also is that if that is the persistent matter darby dick to court on, in the circumstances the, the communities are seeing instead, our lead us side. We toss the our side with the company. Let me go to the leader that we have here. The mayor of, you knew i was coming for you that so youre laughing as the were hearing that when people come to you and say, hey, these guys are here, theyre doing one to 3 to us. Youre really not caring about it. Your. Youre more concerned about the investment rather than the welfare of the people in your community, true or false . Well, when you look at in mind and policies in this country, what it is adult at the local level, our parliament in this country they formulate those policies are, there are legislative level the leadership i have like the local Council Level of leadership. If he acts me, i think i was done with the people the v of the people. Because imagine myself as a male when we meet at some quite us or people will say the mail for me, minute reach a community. And he has a lot of money to capitalize a lot of money by to surprise you to know, doctor says i have became a male 2018 la receive a 10000. 00 cash from any mine in process in this particular community. But give me a 2nd, let me come to solomon. How is that possible given that the act is very, very clear. One percent of proceeds from Mining Companies should come back to the communities where the percentages and of static. It depends on the company. And i would like a quote in kennedy street. We have 5 large killer many companies, but only 2 are productive now. For every stage, every step, one, antique, we have the consultants, we call them, they do every meter through j Impact Assessment to see what were and this affects the committee. If we sent them to the company quarterly, we have the not Ramirez Agency bought the comb inspection. They see whats on what it is nor gwin rights. The company they gave exactly picture we are, the are and then we are going to under we are, we are the are from and then we are, you are going to now. Okay. Let me hear from benedict is i think erm. The point in slow man is blueprints. Now reflects our, our communities who are fighting against oppression, the attitude of government and political leaders. Although the government agents that are supposed to be protect, protecting, supposed to be challenging the companies to deliver to the community, they are being indicted by our communities that they are colliding. How could nudin into this operation . Is a serious issue, is a security issue. And you look around here, these are the people who own the lands we are, the demos are made. Did we reduce to the, or to level of poverty, milo 00 poverty level. Instead of having their children go to school, go to universities with 2 hospitals. You have good infrastructure. Again, children below 10 years, a smashing stones dog from the robbers of the diamond, meaning of the genario type. One of the best quality demos in the world. And you cannot see, it is not accounted for. No one knows what is taking there every day. Let me ask him, ask him to go. Let me ask, let him declare to the people. So because i know you did say that to be fair, that the percentages are not static, but are you able to track and trace how much is being extract . Okay, now we are seeing an enemy has a mines complaint officers inside there. They walk on shift bases. Whats remaining is the company gets the package everything the same, the seal, its the issue that has been seen and kept in into a safe. Yeah. Every day on the on, on piece of business. So in the last year or so, based on what the me a saying, you want to tell me, but what has been exported. One percent of it does not amount to 10000. 00. The enemy calculates what the way were doing with it. And then they have the percentage youre going to play was in that comes back to the committee for which the city says theyve got the accounts. Theres a dozen one as of theyre not given and theyre not being sent into the pharmacy circles. Yeah, the cdc, the committee company, the committee, im a committee hug. I work out, we insured up before he started use of the money the identify projects for which he wants implement. Okay. We want projects have been, i mean im sure that is beyond your scope, but im just trying to put a lot of if you put money into an account and you never see the result. Why keep the money into the account until now . Do with these certainly scoop it to the Great Schools and improvised schools and then the arch ongoing projects. One, it has was easy as the article msi on the south was i submitted. I want to come to you say here for a 2nd because youve recently returned our from living abroad. Have you seen any dramatic changes since youve been away . I think her, to be honest. A syrian is the only place you come back, so youll never get lost because everything remains the same. Whether its in free town, its in balls, so there has been no changes whatsoever. You know, the question would be, is them on the fleet thats gonna bring that change for me . Ill send now because weve seen over a century perhaps there van dam on has made very little little impact. We see other countries like the gambia synagogue. Theyve got no diamonds whatsoever. As a matter of fact, they got peanuts. So for me, i dont know the answer to syrians problem is minerals and yet youre in the business. Im in the business because i see there is a bit of an opportunity that i can make changes in peoples lives. I help communities or support people. I spend money on a daily basis or employ people direct employment. As a matter of fact, ive got close contact with people in governance and what they say is we need people like either the mccain, direct investment, direct employment. So im happy to be back home, doing whatever little i can do. I see a lot of experts around me to know whats going on. They know what the problems are. Maybe they need to be engaged a lot more. Maybe theres that sense of responsibility by everyone to make sure we can harm or make an impact. All right. Unfortunately is the has to leave because hes a busy man, hes going to hell. Dimas, like i do have the panel here, let me say to the last comment. It, the other gentleman said about damn, was done with another damn. What is an answer . Is software before you call me or google demos in saloon, i saw blood de moines, i saw a dime, monster wreck in lives of people. I did the same demos was on it. I saw diamonds lifting, transforming botswana. I saw the policy in botswana instead of having oc domain in a Company Register in Virgin Islands own in 100 percent of london men in c as in saloon until november and on october, diamonds of saloon, italy presiding over the welto saloon diamonds. Bizarre said, no, we have what we call d swanner. That is the beer and was swallowed estate owns the Mining Company that mines and police demos. It was well, i guess what . On the records, 80 percent of the proceeds of the diamonds. It was on a goes to stick or for us and guess what . All of that goes to schools, hospitals, roads, infrastructure. Okay. I want to get from abraham and air for a 2nd out because, you know, as everybody is speaking, im wondering, youre the people who are living in these communities. Why not take these companies and sue them . Why not protest . Why not demand more from your government . Honestly, connor was a 100 percent destroyed during the civil war. This was the central yes. As of the war, probably for the diamonds. But weve also recovered 80 percent because of the diamonds, the small mines and the other

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