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DW The Heart Of Brazil August 12, 2022

Editor ringing. Hes ready to lean journey in 10 episodes starts august 14th on d. W. Ah ah oh oh oh here oh oh. 00000002 joke. Whats the best approach for . I got the 1st fire. Yes. Then the 2nd about them, the cattle can come when i got my hand about yes it by. They packed the soil down, you thought so you rotate the pastures quite a bit. No, said 2 more. Fires had a good apostles, preschool. Would you re fi as gets you a good posture . He moves for you, burned all the branches, and the heavy logs are gone, used to build cow sheds and fences. I lived in wonder all that you had cost just 15000. 00 rice to build a fence. You dont have to buy, would you just pay the workers and buy the material . The im wondering if you get a nice piece of land on the cheap my boss and for a while job that hes recorded. Telephone conversations illustrate the forces at work in the amazon and how the land grabbers side step the environmental agencies and legalize their ownership on these land grabbers assume that whatever current rules are that will change which gassed tagged the fines for illegal activities prior to 2008, have been formerly wave to them, so they assume fines through 2014 will be waived to live omit why they say theyre just clearing the forest and the name of progress. Thats their argument and its no secret. Nay. No, i think it in. Wow, what are you supposed to do if you cant log legally . Its your property and you need to survive. I regret having acted outside the law, but i dont regret felling trees. Theres nothing wrong with that, or if we clear forests, brazil wouldnt take it. Dont 2 boys like roll and grubbers. No one here isnt. One doesnt think because were farming public land. I had no authority around to tell me this is your land. Ive been occupying a piece of land for 30 years. They think that my farm would have been trying to register it for 20 years with no success to that makes me a land graduated any Public Prosecutor, which the i am occupying public property. Committed to Environmental Impact is a big problem. Environmental laws are being violated and theyre doing everything to keep it that way. The Environmental Agency, he bama wants to keep operating illegally so they can keep finding us freezing. Our operation gives them something to do. Single say a bunch of these dont have to documents here from the Environmental Agency for 6000000 and 1200000 aware of it. Ok, we are not coming through it. I to about on wednesday. We are 20 days on appeal. Your lawyer has to do it the case and its true, but its about slave labor and ill take care of it in on the way to pick up a tractor wed had stopped and impounded earlier. The path creighton you. We were coming and hid in the forest. The officer noticed and pursued him. The suspect was armed and shot and killed the policeman with a hunting rifle. Muscle. Ah. Its not bad in longing costs money if you need a lot of it to clear areas of around 10000 hectors like here in Nova Progresso you bought a tick serious logistics. Hundreds of workers and tractors, and that comes at a price and these people have the money. But i bought a new thing with 20 cents for quality of life. I, since the Public Prosecutor cant charge people for clearing the forest, they get accused of forming gangs or fraud things. No one can actually prove, wow, gangs in was accessible logging people, most of what they charged us with Something Else from a guy that was a Public Prosecutor does whatever they please. And whether, cuz i buy the hood here, my office is one of them is the biggest seller of land and property you are. Every one knows that why are there problems to that . Because you try to handle it all yourself because you were the only ones doing this job in the end. Everyone will benefit that. That will not. I mean, you know, it wants to get their hands dirty. Go to a broker and see if hes got anything and then they wont. Thats what i said. Hey, some land with proper papers, cash in hand. Can he give me that . He goes, i got it all they want it for my gums. I babble, its all, weve received reports that several people with logging companies were active there. We investigated those gangs in their criminal activity lesson, thought that included Money Laundering forgery and tax evasion. And its only 2 environmental destruction in michigan. The environmental aspect isnt the only element with a plot of land, and the amazon is much cheaper than in the south or southeast of the country. So people get greedy, local people, buy land and having a Company Gives them an appearance of legitimacy that youre talking to documents under any hello way. Not usually only the new companies have contracts a, the older ones. They have reports from the Agricultural Authority that did a Legal Program and other kinds of documents. I like the Environmental Data register which has the cadel farming firm. And so its worth a lot for lizzie, agricultural permit boy and the environmental permanent about. But it depends on the agencies and these are the ones. And afterwards you can apply for a property title, and then you just have to wait a bit for it to be issued to me and why not with the middle man. So i get a lodging project therefore to see if going locally is a grungy the 1st stage of a land graph can take place from a distance. He has some on the sense that sites on a big plot of land in the state of rain forest. This is all decides to occupy, but the rest has to be done locally not but it is a physical that relies and key l gala fall into someone has to hire workers and do the logging ally. And the area has to be guarded police. Yeah, i am, so when it can unfold in stages, top of the land has to be demarcated, its and then it has to be defended. As is all to be limited. I mean, sometimes the same plot of land will be claimed by various legal point of all this can lead to violence. Does that, but as you know, daniel gay, at 1st glance, the land may seem empty. Local, many, that is actually a local community nearby. Yeah. That leads to conflict, auto body or another line graphical might also be trying to claim the land. That is key thing. Its no wonder that violence is rife in places where land they stole dow. But it, in the amazon violence lies the most concentrated where theres a lot of logging thumb and theres a close link between land grabbing deforestation and violence. And the amazon, your latest award, aussie i was amazon didnt work, is here when its just the attack us. We strike back the same way. If i that they come with clubs, knives or dogs, we fight back with the same methods and throw them out. No matter what size oh, size like, oh, in fashion today. So i love that weve been fighting against land grabbing half a 18. Yes. Its resolved. The People Living here were born and raised here just like that. Great, grandparents in yahoo was thats the problem with land grab as you see the audio for ive taken over this whole area, africa dont get elected. They came from queer bar through the yamashita, National Park about the other side, whatever markings everywhere, logs lying everywhere. Everything was occupied by land grabs, added on the la you, then the land crappy and lawyers dont care about anything or anyone in the in thing has been in game. Ah dont. When will you do not see them . Yes. But online with, as you want to, we join forces with them under roku people to defend the top of your sack and help draw the boundaries. I mean, im a good thought a we share a common culture with them under roku people you know, flooded the forest is our lifelong issue. We hunt fish and plant potatoes and yeah, no think theres no difference between our traditional way of life and i took them under roku, normal a batch in jim. Im a little i was it was julys love is good morning fighters ahead of good morning seniors waters and team ill got this is a very important moment for me when you want them to put a know we have to stick together. The human and joint forces to defend the unique mandible land. Every one of us should pitch in on the video god. Because if we dont fight up, we might lose it as day book and raise your hand if you want to come along. Its quite a bit error, though, if i will ever them okay. By tomorrow, ill come jose, a bargain m i who else . Francisco wealth. So lima, lima lamar, if your income are a, how many families live in this settlement . I saw a handful of people. Its not enough, i reckon so they can go from the bottom when you got people should feel an obligation towards the community that this land wasnt handed over. It was conquered. And if we residents of the region do nothing will end up losing it. They will go out no homework on my bed. Any psyche as it is donating energy visit was i suggested a few of you go door to door. Shes and our shuttle only mad and rosena, doesnt she . And asked them for how i was. I keep asha math as in school need, you know less and we can take the boat over and ask them to help. And i last got it was gonna, hes gonna, if i didnt lease and they wont have any excuse each school with where senior luis, i think hes in the house over there. Ms. M. As in bob dodge. Hello, my friend is see if id like to explain to you what drawing the boundaries means asked and why its so important that i know them. I think that its important for us, for you to have your land secured in the future will you . And just like us, i think you also have to fight for your land. They think that theyre your thief, you got a vin of m plus, youre not or got him beard. Were being pressured by gold diggers and land grabbers. Invading our region deck yet right. Is if you end up being displaced by land grabbers or the government or poor things will get tricky here. Up about figure, diffuse and like if not similar here only here on weekends, we dont really know whats going on and escalate the rush. I should supporters of we need you merge them presses out of if you need us, then well help on. Ah, my son would like were here to help and support them. I because we need them and they need us. I mean, it doesnt matter whose land it is, because its being threatened that yesterday were going to lose our land and they will lose their smiles on them. We live side by side. They focus a think ah, boy did to my them of a good evening. Everyone, what we want to talk about drawing the boundaries again with the other marker. So lets look at the map and see how to get the Mountain Stream mop on there. Well start the marketing the boundary. I got that. All one thing you see all who got a bit more, i recognize that a mock awesome. Thank. Therefore we have to go through the mountains and then follow the stream for about 2 kilometers. Thats our starting point. Well, if i miss the microphone about him when we were drawing borders with a sorry, mobile region, we encountered miners and lockers. Paula we told them we didnt want any conflict and we were just drawing the borders of them, my father and most of them it wanted to give yall gave we run into any one and talk to them. They wont respond. Oh there why here . So im sure the people moving in on our land are aware of al operation. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Devon, over the microphone i all said yes. So i guess its, yeah, i think we should follow the stream in this direction. Then the path will go down on to the road just to get that will take us to the mountains. Then we go down the road and follow the river. Well get to the boundary. This white line here. Thats where well start with, [000 00 00;00] hey, a a ok. Got it. A great boys your with work your way to the red dog of it. Weve covered 500 meters. Lou with huh . No, no. I came by boat and went to the meeting. I did my 1st who didnt want to participate and i went back home and i didnt think, but then the visitors because it kind of changed our minds. I used photo nobody else wanted to take part. I. We thought to be cute if we didnt gain like you, they have to work next week, but after that lap will come by here, lets assume im nobody, nobody knows. One of the coach stone and the other chuckling shoulders. I hello, a man of the boy, mom before most. Thank you. Heres the river. Were here and well work our way over here. Thats point number 12. I thought the thought im willing didnt i got a lawyer and more women are getting involved too. Because the government isnt dealing with this, aggression know me as soon as theyre in a fight. I mean, if he danced, the women realised they have daughters soil, and thats why they have to take part in the struggle. You feel the same, but they have to leave their children at home. And its hard for women to take their children to protest as being as a if they get attacked with pepper spray, for instance, they have to run away with their children in their arms. All that makes it harder, of course, in my son baron. But theyre not giving up. Theyre fighting for the future of their children there and grandchildren. Nathan and every one whos yet to be born. I dont know. Can i get up with him . Stumbles like he maam . Im an asshole. And this is our land. Our home last year and its been destroyed. I feel asia, we want a little cold. Women are here with our leaders and our childrens. And we want to tell the government that this is our home. I sent it back if our ancestors gave it to us, yet nicholas land is sacred to us. I shall come on that go last little that the government has destroyed every thing through you, but were here to resist. And to show that were both one little cool and women at the same time is so was maria found bailey in the of by in li, only my mother is indigenous. Not my father. But i wanted to be a true member of an Indigenous People because im proud of my ancestry new thinking for thank you and your full day. If you dont let them be yolk, and ill have children one day too, and i want them to live here and only without the land grab like la garza gold digger youve ended up here. Then hes like, we want them to leave again because theyre also driving out the animal. We hunted my deities up by fest, cassidy. Beth. I go home with about yeah, the law and i dont want it easy. Sorry guys. Im stuck in a traffic jam in, sorry, so, and saw 16 pickups headed toward sunday. And 2 bands that got unloaded. And, you know, i heard there are 60 Environment Agency pick ups on the way to put up with it was to stay here. 3, come with me and hes looking for changing frequencies on with this one. Yes. That of their frequency. Theyre already talking a lot. A edwardo, you read me. All the 38 you read me. I doubt you read me about. Know you read me. Whos there . We about, 06 vehicles just drove in to your street for roger that database simona 55 k about oh, go ahead. Bare with me. Itll be coming from on almost a farm cold. I dont know. Its my cousin far as a 4 or 5 kilometer cellphone. I spent quite a lot, a lot of your motorcycle here. Well check that its 4 kilometers. Get in and show us the webinar cause i did. Okay. I the com. So i just kinda kept lumps. So evelyn dekessa of emmas office. Let me see about 25000. 00 areas are clear cut each year. What year . Most of these areas are on public land and linked to illegal activities. Boy, they usually involve land speculation, the formation of land, monopolies, and appropriation of public land. The lodging operation is just the 1st step will huge areas are legally occupied. He had him as an area of 30000 hectors belonging to just one person can yield tremendous profits while inflicting major damage on the rain forest too in law to bid his. But what if i could just stay up with them for busy because about them as guy named cassini, i was fine several times for logging back. There wasnt enough to arrest him to the authorities charged him with tax evasion. He had to release them for lack of evidence. Leaving forests isnt a crime because some people have been doing it since the dawn of humanity that is going to wound them contains with i say that wasnt farmers over there in the front at the cow shed. And theres another building farther down, pushes, so we dont have anything against you as an employee with these activities. Are legal. Looking on my shoes where you work. Leave your motorcycle here and getting hey, turn left here. As mother was you are motorcycles. Yes. If we burn the with the know i got up, why much did you get paid off a new 3000. 00 right for filling trees per month. Yes, i did. But an accountant, a camp is being dismantled by mansell. This land belongs to Indigenous People. No ones allowed to be here and well let you pack up and i just and then were burning the rest and how about that . And well take care of the tractor about that, mike and why that he pembroke . Well, lets get the tractor. Good. I thought okay, between a tractor is that very good. Any that, that i buy, that was a big, big tv. They knew they could get caught at any moment and they were listening in on us. There was a radio in the tractor against whether it is thats why they were leaving as i am not here to leaks and we had to had offered a lot and then you got called yes. How much did you make . I dont know if i take me by the thing yet. Were still waiting to get paid by. They still have to pay me. Im supposed to get 1600 ratio. They. Im going ivanhoe lane eaten and cab keep them on and they told me it doesnt hurt more working illegally on indigenous land. Got hit on legally purchase land. I think the workers take big risk. Yes. Of the earn more replaced by that. Okay, no, its illegal. I made a joke for the bosses compete high wages because no profits are here. My date is thank you so my are on untouched. Im ditching this land obligation. Even the lumber here is extremely high quality. My did that single angelina tree fit to the 10000. 00 ry finance . There will always be people doing this kind of work. Like i said, based in the local again, we know its a legal country to write. So if this is our livelihood, vicki, again, thats all this, no of the work here with home. So thats all good. How are we supposed to survive . If these jobs disappeared . Because the Environment Ministry shots, everything down like many people will starve and you wont be able to sell your house. So your land. Everything will collapse all who we wouldnt fell trees if we didnt have to hire without a high school diploma. You cant work anywhere anymore. Youre out there, where should people like me work . Who didnt go to high school, brought back at the head. Thats how it is here. I thought by alan with integrate barbara, they go on a date and then now with this family leaders, we note down their details and statement. We need that because we intend to prosecute their employer. My dad either whos operating a logging company. I do, i just, im, of course, there

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