Be reborn into Something Else, that is, whether there will be, or whether there will be a Similar International organization. I am almost sure of this because the world is ultimately globalized and communicates interactions, but i also think that it will be a completely Different Organization that simply has to appear because it will breathe life into what is dying. I do not see these prospects today the initiatives that are currently being proposed by the united states, in particular, that it is necessary to expand the composition of the permanent members of the un Security Council, this is nothing more than simply maintaining, you know, on the apparatus, in fact , well, just artificial artificial Artificial Life support of the organism, everything, but it does not save the situation is not, it is not some qualitatively new medicine that can improve health and, lets say, lead to awakening and, first of all, clarity of thoughts to mok and so on, no, therefore, i think that in any case we will be waiting for an update organization itself is not just a reform with the exclusion of russia, but the formation of something qualitatively different. It seems to me that this is simply a historical process, but it is inextricably linked , firstly, with the ongoing war with the future and with how the war will end with our victory and with what is in in any case, it will lead to the transformation of international relations, because the world is now, and this war demonstrates how the world is divided into blocs of autocracy and blocs of democracy, and it will definitely not be possible to hold on and stay in the middle, it will have to be determined in any case, it will lead to the transformation, like many other processes, this is what i see. This is what i am counting on the action that will eventually come to this, but for this , the world must look in particular from the future of russia and not, lets say, not to be afraid of its possible disintegration, in fact, in zhan the president of lithuania Gitanas Nauseda spoke and he said that peace is needed but not peace as he said dont forget what the price will be we will hear what he said we highly appreciate the efforts of the organization of the United Nations general secretary who are looking for any opportunities to achieve peace, but peace not at any price, peace must be achieved on the terms that ukraine must put forward, and we cannot bargain for the territorial integrity of ukraine, this is the number one precondition, president zelenskyi is actively making diplomatic efforts to convince some skeptical countries , mr. Oleksandr, of what is happening in the world starting from february 24, 2022, doesnt this mean the end of the world that was until now and we are between two holidays, i. E. Between that between that architecture that was the World Architecture after the Second World War and and architecture that has not yet been built as a result of the russianukrainian war, because this war, which is currently taking place on our territory, is one of the largest after the Second World War, the largest on the european continent. This is exactly the case in this situation, uh, neither diplomacy, nor statements, nor condemnation of russia , within the framework of the un general assembly, nor any speeches, they have no influence on the situation, no one can influence putin and this is also abnormal. Because there is no world policeman who, relatively speaking well, the point is that, er, i will say that i agree with you regarding the situation when we are in such a transition period, the world is in such a transitional period , it seems to me that the fundamental thing is that this global confrontation is now imposed on the west. I will say the values of western civilization by which we live and protect now also from russian aggression and the east. That is, it is obvious today. That is, this confrontation in one way or another, it is, let s say, gaining a certain relevance and even greater images, and the real thing is that we now see that there is a competition between china actively trying to form, lets say, a certain club of states that act with china, the west, in turn, is rallying from europe with other states and the east, such as japan, south korea, in support of ukraine , in particular, this confrontation is there and definitely what is the way out of this confrontation it is one way or another well, lets say entering into some negotiations, in particular, maybe with china and other countries about the future, for example, the same russia , why the west actually does not want a paradoxical situation because it is possible that china would now agree to talk about what the far east and other territories and resources that it could get as a result of the future collapse in russia would fall under chinese influence. Which can happen and this is very important, in fact, what are many other points that are also there and definitely that it will end with what i am talking about said that we will enter a certain period when there will be a reestablishment or regeneration of an International Institution that will be responsible for supporting this balance in the world. Russia is even authoritarian. It can be more predictable than russia, which will fall apart or there, uh, i dont believe. Lets say it democratically. Well , there is some kind of parody of democracy or Something Else , and it will be easier to reach an agreement with them in any case in the end. With, lets say, the changes that may come, well, this is an absolutely, lets say, absurd approach, he has not justified himself, well, today we see putin, who is absolutely stubborn in his madness, aggressive and who has no influence , and this, by the way, to those analysts who very often they write in the west about what is possible , ukraine will now find ways to sign some agreements with the armistice, in what way, how is it possible to date. If putin wants war , that is, the assessment constantly keeps even this time and therefore. Of course, in any case, it will all lead to to the transformation. I think that there is no doubt about this, but it is very important that it be understood in the west that these transformations will be implemented anyway and just now, in any case, then the project of some russia , which would be deterrents but deterrents the element of china is simple and thats all and end there. I think it will not be possible to have one more representative of the country that was the founder of the United Nations organization, or rather the founder of the un was the belarusian socialist soviet socialist ee republic and now this republic of belarus is an independent, well, relatively independent state the struggle against the west on the example of ukraine, and all this is happening just these days, when this great panorama of the meeting of World Leaders and the exchange of views on how the world is organized is unfolding even now in lets listen to what the selfproclaimed president of belarus, oleksandr lukashenko, is saying to the world, we know that ukraine has only just begun , you know, berry flowers can wait for us ahead. Well, america stands behind poland, they decided to destroy everything here, plus the European Union, and the main point of support is poland, in the 20th year they wanted to join us there so that there were dividing lines between us russia in the east and west. Well, it didnt work out, so we now remove the huge attention of defense. Now we see the formation of the axis of evil, as it once was. It was about the soviet union that concept of the axis of evil. Well, the axis of evil, that is, lukashenko , in what way. They support putin, but you are not in the publicized form, how much do you think the world is capable of breaking , not allowing this axis of evil to happen, because putin is talking about the fact that i did not talk to anyone about weapons at all, this is not the conversation they say the weapons that are in north korea will remain there, but we are not talking about only north korea there, and russia in this situation , about a whole system of confrontation or confrontation with the civilized world, where north korea will play the role of such a hub for the same chinese that can enter the territory of russia and like belarus, by the way, because belarus used to be such a food hub until now when there were certain sanctions against russia, shrimp products there or i dont know something labeled belarusian entered the russian federation, how could the world to oppose this group of evil, conditionally speaking, i think that it can and will be opposed. The fact is that the world needs to understand that the west is still stronger and it is very important not to lose this race to china, for example, or does china directly want to win in this struggle and is rallying the alliance is the countries and conducts, by the way, such rather, lets say not quite, some kind of primitive politics, they are actually china it is a rather strong insidious opponent, which is capable of using, in particular, a slander and, lets say , the west itself and its certain vulnerabilities on its own benefit and this is the most important thing and understanding in the usa and in europe in the eu countries it is absolutely and it is obvious and here against this background i would still single out the decisions that have been adopted now by the measure to increase the production of weapons about what is launched in Defense Enterprises about the fact that no one has given up the idea of actually increasing support now in order to provide these weapons and ammunition to ukraine to fight against russian aggression and the understanding that in the end it is necessary to support ukraine, it remains despite any skeptics there the statements that are heard about, well, from certain politicians of certain countries in the west, that is, the west is really coming together, i think that for President Biden of the united states, this is the idea of forming a coalition, why so often . The words of the aviation tankova coalition are different because it is very important to demonstrate that the event is the only one, that it acts collectively and that anyone who wants to go, for example, against a european country, against European Values, to deal with the usa in particular, that is, this there will be a powerful club of states that is united by common values and will oppose this. Instead, we see that the east and some other countries are trying to prevent this leadership. This happens under the leadership of china, which often remains behind the scenes and formally avoids any accusations because the supply of weapons or any other support, for example , aggression, trying to demonstrate neutrality , but there is an increasing understanding that they are, after all , interested in russia being in war, because it will be weakened, they will receive cheap resources, this is understandable, plus this is an indirect confrontation of the west, and therefore, in principle, if we take china as a determining factor, then of course if china would deploy certain of its capacities and increase supplies through north korea or perhaps iran or other states and certain states, lets say ammunition and projectiles. Of course, this would , well, it would add to russia certain positions, this must be understood. And this would create serious challenges for us. There is an understanding here because in itself the northern korea or iran by itself well, we can see the dawn of active cooperation with russia for about a year, even more with the supply of shaheds, they supplied the same information, tank shells, and there are artillery shells, but yes , shaheds are for us a problem from which people in civilian cities suffer, but they did not lead to the fact that russia eventually won victory over ukraine in the same way and now they will not lead to the same and north korea by itself is neither capable nor able to give them they cannot give so many weapons that, well, now they have turned a significant the situation at the front to save some areas, to patch this up and give russia the opportunity to defend itself there from our counteroffensive for a certain period, yes, north korea can do it and it will obviously make it decisive. I think this position of china is the most important thing that they can be the biggest challenge and to be a conductor behind the scenes of these events. To be honest, this seems to me to be the main challenge that is er for the event and to a certain extent for us, mr. Oleksandr. During the last few days, we have witnessed how well, a trade misunderstanding is unfolding. Lets put it this way, i dont want to use the word war between the countries of the European Union, poland, slovakia, hungary and ukraine regarding the ukrainian coast of ukrainian grain. Prime minister of ukraine shmyhal said that the government offers the European Union and neighboring countries a compromise. Ukraine will implement control measures and verification of exports of four groups goods, if poland, hungary, slovakia do not agree to the measures agreed by the european commission, then ukraine will introduce mirror or mutual trade restrictions, the most important thing to remember is that we are all on the same side , on the side of European Values and democracy, so we are all on the side of European Values and democracy , but when it comes to markets about domestic markets and even more so about agroindustrial markets , we see that even you, during such a war , a bloody and very difficult situation in the south with the export of our grain abroad and not in the countries of the global south, we see that the European Countries are not very happy with us and uh, you see, we start to speak in some language of ultimatums about what if you and we, well, its something similar. With russia before the great war, you remember there was such an era of trade wars when they restricted something there, we restricted something to them, well, this is not a very good story against the background of a great era, i would say so. Well, first of all, you need to understand that there are certain political moments in poland as well and in slovak elections i want to remind you that in slovakia they should be held earlier and in poland they should be held a little later in october. Accordingly, we cannot interpret all these events that are happening now and gaps in the gap from the Election Campaign because one way or another the candidate must promise support to farmers one way or another farmers vote and candidates fight for their votes, and this is what you need to understand. Actually, the decision is made through the prism of the election race, so i think that it should be taken into account in our speed because in our country decisions are made very quickly and rapidly, does it also raise certain questions, the second thing is that i would not advise you to forget that the war is still going on and russian aggression against ukraine is going on, and no matter what, with all due respect to the agrarians with all due respect and to the fact that it gives us economic dividends and brings income to the budget i understand that the war also needs to be financed well, we just need to approach pragmatically and weigh on the scales what we get logistics we will get weapons from these countries we get cooperation now we just talked about north korea, this is a chance for us that south korea will give ukraine weapons through a third country , 155 mm projectiles, which we need, which is the nearest country that has cooperation with south korea, lets say this is quite tested, it is poland, well, that is, that the same logistics capacities and the same weapons of slovakia and the czech republic, we are currently implementing joint projects in the Defense Industry and will implement slovakia for us now produces suzanne ee selfpropelled artillery installation, there is much more that is, in the end, if we approach pragmatically, i think the answer should be obvious that now is not the time for us to look for situations for confrontation, lets say, and it would be better to focus on the cooperation with which we will have well, i think that the profits for the future that we need are the Defense Industry and support moreover, ukraine was not and will not be 100 closed in the corridors because romania, which is the adriatic, croatia, which is also ready to add its ports, plus i am almost sure that these brilliant actions of the Ukrainian Defense forces the establishment of the dominance of our forces in the northwestern waters of the black sea will lead to the fact that if there was no such initiative, the initiative would work even without russia. Well, this is what they will work on. Therefore, i think that the decision on our part, forgive me it is impulsive, emotional and on balance today i do not see how the export of certain Agricultural Products prevails over how we need to work from the point of view of victory in our war and support of the front in the first place, and one more question is already on the very end of our program about ramzan kadyrov, the leader of the chechen republic, because over the past few days, on social networks, he has been eulogized, then resurrected again, that is, he dies, he lives , he has no influence. Somehow it does not affect the kremlins policy. This is how the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council talked about kadyrovs health. Referring to his data, lets hear that kadyrov has Health Problems. This is a wellknown fact; moreover, there is an assumption that this there was poisoning, at the same time, repeated poisoning that caused certain er complications on the er kidney system, as far as we understand , the video that works today, i cannot say that it was recorded just yesterday when he demonstrated it, it could be an absolutely old video that has nothing to do with the essence of what is today the fact that kadyrov was hunted and hunted by the russians is known lets put it this way