Are investigating some case there about state, for example, treason, in Everything Else they cannot give such orders, it should probably end with specific cases in general, and not with a transfer to some other position, and of course, the citizens are watching all this, then they look at history, you asked the question at the beginning, yes, for the tv viewers, dear ones, regarding the reservation of employees there for the telethon and so on, but citizens are watching all this and they have a lot of questions, why is it happening in manual mode. In fact delivery of these there subpoena or definition of those who are under reservation, who are not under reservation and many other such issues and it really creates this threat that the president , seeing at the end what it all leads to and that he will be responsible for it, bringing him there are some results of sociological polls, no matter how much he tries to avoid this topic, he still has to sign the law in the end, and he is the Supreme Commander in chief, they will show him there that this will affect the trust rating there very much, he will. Lose some more there 1520 or maybe more percent, and he will have a really certain temptation to simply block this decision, by the way, it will be a very bad story, because objectively, the new rules for mobilizing or rationing those that were before, they are for us needed, it just has to be done in an adequate way, and not cause rejection among the citizens because of some injustice there or because of certain problems, as there, well, which arise there, so the only thing, well, what can we hope for, after all. The law, it will pass through the crucible of the Verkhovna Rada council, indeed, some odious things will be removed there, and at the end we will receive a more or less adequate document, which will not cause any special reservations, primarily from the citizens of ukraine, but look, in parallel with this, we need to deal with other things, as this morning the Prime Minister instructed all the companies there to review the issue of reservations and so on, this should have been done much earlier, and it should be. Done as publicly as possible in order to form a certain system of criteria that will be the same for all who will be clear, which will be public, citizens will clearly know who works where, who can count on this reservation, what percentage, and there will be no questions as to why one person is taken away and another person is not taken away, although they are in absolutely equal conditions, and by the way, the question is related to the same journalists, it is problematic and problematic for one simple reason if you consider tv channels, for example, as strategic enterprises, i, for example, believe that journalists should , in principle, under all this hits, then it should spread to absolutely all journalists, there tv channels, leading tv channels, partly regional tv channels and so on, that is, everyone, yes, all of them, not only those who are in the marathon, but also those who could there and should have been according to their ratings, including there, for example, with espresso, but they were simply not taken there for some reason, then if you already introduce such criteria. Then please distribute them to everyone, and this would then remove certain doubts and certain dissatisfaction among ukrainians. It hasnt been done yet, maybe some changes will be made there, but i am afraid that these changes will be made solely as a result of the active activities of public activists, journalists, and all those who are not indifferent to these matters, who will demand the observance of elementary justice. Well, about justice, when we talk about the law on mobilization about justice, we are also talking about. And first of all, about those people who are at the front and the order of demobilization or rotation of military personnel on the front line, not only on first line, generally in the armed forces of ukraine. So, information has just appeared, ukrainian pravda, referring to its sources in the committee on National Security and defense, writes that the committee excluded the provision on the demobilization of the rotation of military personnel from the government draft law at the request of sirskyi, the commanderinchief of the armed forces of ukraine, that these issues of demobilization and rotation will be brought up in a separate bill, and this is also probably an issue. Which will concern absolutely everyone, both those who are already in the armed forces of ukraine and those who will be to mobilize, this whole story with this law and with failed communication, it indicates that, well, as a result, there may be quite serious dissatisfaction, you are right about the fact that there is information that has appeared that the employees of the channels that enter. Telethon, yesterday the ministry of culture spoke about the fact that the representatives of the traveling circus were also booked there, that they would not be mobilized, that is, what are the criteria that circus employees can be booked, there are chapel employees bandurists, for example, of some kind, cannot be booked, that is, both of them go to the front and both of them are engaged in art, maybe this is also very important for Ukrainian Society now, in your opinion, who is this critical moment should communicate with society, since we heard zelenskys statement, he says we are convincing the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine, well, the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine is zelenskys monomajority, that is , who is he convincing in this case . You see, the cabinet of ministers and the minister of defense should communicate first of all, because they are subjects. Submission of this draft law, then to some extent, apparently, the representatives of the specialized committees there that consider this draft law should actively communicate, by the way, they do it best, that is, they still give these comments from time to time and at least try to answer some question, but globally, of course, the main communicator in this process, with all due respect, should be the president of ukraine, the Supreme Commanderinchief, not the military, you understand, the military, they have already conducted their communication. They said that they needed to, and what the mechanism would be, they should not have been interested, by the way, this story that you mentioned about the exclusion of demobilization, the fact that it was done on the initiative of syrskyi, well, you see, syrskyi in this regard probably turned out to be more more helpful than the previous commanderinchief, who was able to voice his opinion, but he explained that it should not be a military decision at all, but a decision of those people who are responsible for mobilization, that is , the Verkhovna Rada and the Supreme Commanderinchief, you understand, if the president just asked v. Spoke before the ukrainian people and addressed the Verkhovna Rada and said that there is a critical situation, we urgently need a law on mobilization, please vote for it in the version that was submitted, taking into account some key amendments , i will sign it urgently immediately, as, for example, biden says, yes, there about the budget, when they temporarily vote, as soon as you vote on it, i will immediately sign it there, because thats how the president would do it, i think that the questions would then there were no special issues with the adoption of this law, Verkhovna Rada. Would have accepted it and there was no need to communicate, understanding that the president , as the Supreme Commander, takes responsibility for what will be in this law, how the mobilization will take place in general, so the situation here is actually very simple, and by the way, in the current the mobilization legislation clearly defines that the main person ultimately responsible for mobilization is the head of state, but now they want to change it to some extent, but they need to communicate, they will not get anywhere, some deputies this story. Will not take it away, especially against the background of the ratings of trust that are in the Verkhovna Rada, and the president , who has a reserve of this trust, should not be afraid to take this responsibility upon himself, really understanding the criticality of the situation and the need for this law as a whole for ukraine, well thats why this week will be decisive in this regard, i also imagine what kind of wave will rise in relation to the issue of demobilization of a new draft of a law, a separate draft of a law, thats why its probably necessary to leave to the president , to Pay Attention to this and say that we will definitely bring it to the. Logical conclusion and the issue of demobilization or rotation, they will be prescribed, they will be prescribed in great detail, and they will contain fair criteria that will not cause special reservations from our military, especially those who have been at the front since the first minutes of the largescale russian invasion. Mr. Igor, thank you for participating in the program, this was igor reiterovich, political scientist, head of political and legal programs Ukrainian Center for social development. Friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our platforms. We are conducting a poll today during our broadcast and we are asking you about the following do you consider the channels of the single telethon strategic for the economy and security of the state . 94 yes, 8 , 6 no, these are interim poll results, stay with espresso. Tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strong saw from razpak tv is just for you, with it you can easily cut trees and bushes, it is so convenient to use and for. Solar matters this is an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 1,499. 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Then immediately for those who are watching now both on tv and in our social networks, in particular on youtube, i must apologize, because in in the first part of our program, we did not quite correctly give the results of the television survey, the interim survey, i hope that now the Editorial Team will give the correct numbers, because today we are asking you about this, do you consider the channels of the united telethon strategic for the economy and security . The state 6 yes, 94 no, these are the correct relevant results of the survey that we are conducting on tv today, and the same survey we are conducting on youtube, i will say right away that today we will talk about many things, well, first of all, about mobilization, today in release, softened mobilization. The Verkhovna Rada is preparing a controversial bill for the second reading will evasion of the draft be punished with prison . Critically important enterprises the ministry of culture booked circus workers from the army and a single telethon, without which branches of the economy ukraine really cannot survive. Global peace summit and kremlin ultimatums. Representatives of 100 countries will discuss ending the war in ukraine in switzerland. We will talk about this and other things during the next 45 minutes, i will remind you once again that during this broadcast we are conducting a survey, asking you about this do you consider the channels of the single telethon strategic for the economy and security of the state . Yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, write your comment under this video. If you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phones and vote. Yes, 0800211381, no, 0800211382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote. Well, i would like to introduce myself, todays guests are peoples deputies of ukraine, iryna gerashchenko, a peoples deputy, a member of the Verkhovna Rada committee on Foreign Policy and interparliamentary cooperation, former commissioner for peace settlement in donbas. Ms. Irina, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. Good evening. Solomiya bobrovska, peoples deputy of ukraine from golos, member of the Verkhovna Rada committee on National Security. Of defense and intelligence, deputy head of the permanent delegation of the Verkhovna Rada to the nato parliamentary assembly, mrs. Solomiya, well, there is no mrs. Solomiya yet, we are waiting for inclusion, and mykhailo tsymbalyuk, peoples deputy of ukraine from the batkivshchyna faction, first deputy head of the Verkhovna Rada committee on social policy and protection of veterans rights, Lieutenant General of the militia. Mr. General, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. I wish Everyone Good Health well, first of all, ms. Iryna and mr. Mykhailo, since we ask our tv viewers about this and the viewers whether they consider the channels of the united telethon to be strategic for the economy and security of the state, this question is explained quite simply the government and the ministry of culture booked the employees of the channels that are part of the single telethon, from mobilization, referring to. The fact that they are strategic to the economy of the security of the state, do you think that these channels are indeed strategic to the economy of the security of the state, do you understand the motivations of the mobilization or the reasons or the criteria for why these channels in particular are booked and Others Television channels, no, ms. Iryna, but, apparently, the office of the president lives according to the principle of louis the 14th, the state. Its me, if they believe that the state is me, then its obvious that for them these are Marathon Enterprises that are strategic for the state, because marathon today works as a propaganda channel for such a free for banking for the office of the president holding, which does not inform about the war, but rather works as such a propagandist of the government, asking those topics that are primarily necessary for the positive. Image of bankov marathon and bankov failed in fact, for example, the same Information Campaign regarding recruiting and mobilization, and you know, and this is strategically dangerous, i think, the opposite is the story for the state, because not only is the marathon costing taxpayers 2 billion hryvnias every year, propagandists from the 1 1 channel work there for the state. Funds work there, for example, on the freddom channel, we have now prepared a request to the ministry of culture, socalled journalists who received diplomas in the dpr, the socalled dpr, and sorry, worked for this terrorist group, journalists from the pool of the medvedchuk channel work there, and it is obvious that the government, which today is going to remove demobilization from the law on mobilization, and at the same time shows that. And for it, propagandists are more important than the military, we are categorically against this. Thank you, mrs. Irina. Mr. General, what do you say about the criteria and about who should be there in this, in this list, and what are the criteria, who should be reserved, if we are talking about the new bill and the new law on mobilization, can after all, it was necessary to wait for the adoption of this law, and then, well. So that everything was transparent, clear, and no one had any unnecessary questions, what someone calls a draft law on improving mobilization is there for now i didnt find it, although we dont have the final version yet saw in no way how and who and whom will be booked, this is firstly, secondly, there is no order in the state and the fact that today the Prime Minister is declaring something, that he is demanding a fair. Uh, fair reservation of certain positions , the