This might be too late. Republican senator lense gramm says that rebels might be on the run but they are still running the show. There are still gunning for us. If he is right forget about ims ims billing a vacuum. I am about to fill an even more dangerous terrorist vacuum over here. These of the gas is so bad. Former Homeland Security secretary on what he makes of this development in these developments and these rebels and this attack. What do you think . First of all, it is good to be back with you pair reversed of all, i find some irony that president and former secretary of state you cannot tell us where they were and who they were talking to on the night that our ambassador and security people are murdered are suddenly involved in this he said she said countercharges over who supported what policy, a failed policy. And when i say fail policy i am being quite generous spirit of frankly think they needed the president of the secretary of state when they had a policy as it related to those two countries of emily said large punitive rather interesting irony in public precursor to her announcing her seeking the nomination. Neil she did say that may be having moderates and syria we would have prevented someone else filling this power vacuum that now seems to be. I happen to concur with that opinion. A lot of people to look three years ago urged the administration the marriage the secretary of state to support the free syrian army. Totally disengaged. And if you think of a series of non engagement in syria, you should not be surprised at all of this has occurred there and you have got i sought to come by encouraging support for the three syrian army. We told them that he had to go. On his way to a fundraiser, the president actually said he must tell. Then you have the debacle arawn john and chemical warfare. We did nothing. We should not be surprised if peripheral territory, fertile ground. A couple of years ago the president , we should not be too worried. Neil that was then, this is now open even with these air strikes will we are witnessing is stalling in enemy that is intent on taking over and eventually. I think it is a good start, but lets be very clear. The air strikes are very strategically important. They need to be continued, but i think that we need to revisit the whole notion of strongly and aggressively supporting the three syrian army is important to engage allies in the neighborhood Palin Rihanna the only ones that had Fighter Pilots in their plans permit the chaos and carnage in the region and as much to saudi arabia, jordan, and elsewhere. Neil unfortunately they are not i should go back to the next point. It is just a matter of time creating hostilities that have not yet arrived on our servers will lead. Im not quite sure right understood the question. Be careful uprooted as a matter of time before theyre here. Well, one of the things that the administration has never done is talk seriously to the American People about the overall global surge of islamic extremists. This is the most recent and, frankly, most dramatic example. There are no rules. Destroying everything in their wake. It is a matter of time. Not so much a military incursion , but you have a lot of european fighters. You have some american fighters. Earlier today we picked up an isis1ab at the airport in new york. And so you have people who are from overseas, particularly non visa waiver countries. All of a sudden they can become bombers on their plans so it is a very serious problem. Neil im wondering. All the time that i have talked to and had the pleasure of, a constant reminder that it can happen again and that the more time goes by between events certainly i dont think it is a matter of a more sanguine, and these. Youre saying that is a mistake. I think the threat of islamic extremism today is probably greater than it was given the connective tissue that began has metastasized. Hezbollah, moss, the Islamic Jihad and high as i as pretty should be under no illusion, he should be comforted. They are getting bigger. Frankly, there are other organizations. Perhaps they got their inspiration. This same deadly even terrorist mindset. Neil any different . Mine in a reconfigured or not. I mean, bad guys can assemble anywhere without the protection of a as but a country. They can, but the situation is syria and iraq, it is not a militia, it is an army. They conduct warfare in a particular web they also home have been developing asymmetric warfare in my mind any other terrorist organizations. Neil switching gears slightly. Instituting new surcharges to cover presumably greater protections. Some say it is going to go into the bigger budget. The some folks that is five or 8 a ticket permitted blacks and not sure what theyll do with the money the aviation, that put to commercial aviation is wont be one of the most consistent terrorist threats buried and you dont have to look beyond the past month the two to be reminded of it military aircraft could just as easily be used to take of civilian aircraft. Take off and landings. You have congressman calling for militarystyle Defense Systems and commercial aircraft. You have d. H. As saying that more concerned today than ever before about nonmetallic explosives that can be embedded in individuals. They can become bombers on airplanes. The situation without regard to commercial aviation continues to be a consistent threat. More and more threats seem to be appearing every day. Neil haphazardly with a gun but spending the money. In the middle of all these other things. One of the things that they have got to do, and i think he is on the right track, but so many people who are frequent travelers could be prescreened. Like global entry. As serious background check. And of an operation in the database that you can continue to look at the database every six months or year and make sure are. You need to get into preclearance. He wants to do that for whatever reason. Quite a few delays, but i think that is where we need to go a bit of indigestion not think that we ought to be i think there are better ways to manage the risks associated with commercial aviation. The way they are doing it now is is not the best way. Neil agreed. Thank you very much. A pleasure. Neil well, blacking out because the temperature is shooting up. Compounded with the pressures of things like Climate Change, you know, it is not surprising that right now at least what you are seeing is a lot of chaos in those places. Neil these guys are all hot and bothered because of the Climate Change think . That is just the start of it. Unlimited cash back. Let that phrase sit with you for a second. Unlimited. As in, no limits on your hardearned cash back. As in no more dealing with those rotating categories. The quicksilver card from capital one. Unlimited 1. 5 cash back on everything you purchase, every day. Dont settle for anything less. Ill keep asking. Whats in your wallet . Six extremists can be more of a threat. It is going to be us. Societies in not work and political factions. That ideological extremism bois his movements more prominent. Hmm neil many would disagree with that. Does the president have a point to say the extremist is in his mind, an extremist rightwing views with our danger. The president pointing to republicans. Well, extremism is this letter. It denotes quantity, not anything ideological point the president against extreme justice. I am drawn the goldwater campaign. Extremism in the sense of liberty. To be against extremism is just a sliver. Neil i would have to take the president at face value. Both sides taking extreme position. They can never find extreme battleground. , think he would have a lot more credibility said he just said both sides are of control. A unifying statement will rid of the president is doing now, the best way to deflect the conversation. He does not want to talk about the isis or what is happening with the irs. Lets plan republicans. Neil they blend hen party to. I think the president has a point. If you look at what the republicans have done since he came to office in the economic downturn, Health Care Reform, foreign policy, everything the president has done, republicans want the obstruct them. Not proposing solutions of there own. Neil they get a stop at the senate. It seems like when they propose solutions. In transition spending their views and not the left. They have this alternative Health Care Reform. This opposing Health Care Reform it did not push it forward. It was just so that they can say when they were accused. Neil rejecting something that is an albatross. The president rejecting their overtures. We have an opportunity to do something. They had an idea. Never explored. Beyond policy it really comes down to ideology. When the president says he is against extremists he means he is against capitalists, people of for there own selfinterest. They dont want to pay for other Peoples Health care. They dont like liberty and happiness. That is extreme. Neil we will have the record. You guys said something very profound. Be that as it may, the reality is all of this is a little too over the top. The president s saying this is the direct result of temperature listen to this. Compounded with the pressures of things like Climate Change, it is not surprising that right now at least what youre seeing is a lot of chaos in various places. Neil longer for Climate Change. He just proved my point. Trying to change the conversation. Another way he is trying to get the conversation away from the failures that have been created by ellen is second term as president. Climate change contributed to. Oh, god know. Genetics. That is the italian in him. The president is genuinely concerned about Climate Change. He is getting ahead of himself by saying that. At odds think we are seeing a facts to that point. I love al gores response to this. And since the start of this show , entering the u. S. By the end of the hour it will top 100. The alarming numbers that we are not addressing after the break. neil all right. In less than one minute and emigrant will enter this country. The International Migrant enters this country every 40 seconds. That is over 2008. President obama executives ordered his way to make a lot of these illegals legal. Going to rapidly rise. Well, this is no different than we have been saying. That is because there has been an increase in texas border security. Overall this is a country that was built on immigrants, especially the italians. You know, they always want to come to this country. Frankly, you pick your poison. What part of the world were talking about there is opportunity. Frankly we have a darn porous borders. It is kind of a disgrace right now. Not doing anything. Not just people that want to come for a better life that maybe those who want to hurt us. Not antiimmigration. As much as the reasons behind it. They might have shifted over the last century. Explain. We should one emigrants. Productive, contributes. This whole notion of illegal, starting in 1910. Talk about being against illegal immigrants, bob hope, andrew carnegie. Alexander hamilton. When they came here. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] neil any celebrity legal or otherwise. All right. I mean, these numbers include legal immigrants. The wrong people here. The people are not going to be industrious. What do you think of that . One of the things i would like to see fellow democrats to to my would like to see securing the border not because such a bad phrase and the democratic side. Whether democrat or republican a matter what policies youre trying to pursue immigration lies, if you are not pursuing the border you cant implement a policy. As you were saying, you know, the additional immigrants, using our infrastructure. With tens of they will use entitlements and things like that. But the infrastructure in general government services. They contribute to the infrastructure, certainly the economy, illegal immigrants. [inaudible conversations] neil our Entitlement Society might be bringing their wrong people here for the wrong reasons. The criticism of the Entitlement Society. You should be just as our asianamericans take advantage. Weighing in. It just makes them legal. That solves all of your problems. All right way and a wrong way to do immigration. Many come to this country and to contribute, but we have got to deal with the fact that many of them are coming and not contributing. They are draining our economics, draining our taxpayer dollars for entitlements. The border enforcement. I agree. Immigrants are contributing a lot. Lets face it perry more people use the buses, the subways. Those resources become congested. Those are things that have to be taken into account. Neil makes you very much buried in the meantime the, the party has never been so divided. Here to make sure everyone parties together. His answer to a young man that i think is very, very profound neil all right. To my daughter i am officially cool. Partisanship is rocking this country. Just turned the political world upside down. I think that offended liberals and conservatives. Writing to the rock star to complain about his super rightwuydt dad even going neil it is my way or the highway. Or that that is who you are. The person that believes these things. Believes are important. Not as important as who we really are. For better or worse is not based on the believes, the character. Neil with your family and extended family to of politics, plot. A bit of both. My dad is the kind of person, bring up something very passionate and not its not reading the progress. Is that going to survive britain its not a pleasant experience. Milieus stand these are challenges that are worth pursuing. Neil you have gone outside. The past three days definition. The way they think and act. You dont fit that. A lot of politicians to break from their views to move the ball and get agreement. Any. Their toes. It is challenging, painful. It is not easy to try to return to a place of love and understanding. Neil judy love more, john baena or barack obama . Humans. I love humans. I think so. That is the part that is, perhaps the most challenging. Of very severe example. It is natural and perhaps even corrupt. They are not human. But perhaps it is even higher of us to say that they are. The depths of our own potential bad qualities and monstrous behavior and try to return to that state of love. It is not easy. Just here today from all kinds of thoughts. I tried to think higher than that. Encourage each other. It. Neil i live in pettiness. But you are not vindictive at all played a lot of people of very tough shell. I understand that. Ultimately it does not feel as good. Neil you are not come again, you dont fit any could be quicker definition of as entertainer. Just the labor your persona. I decided that feeling happy was more important to me than anything else. Not in a shallow way but in no way that made me glad to be alive. Worth fighting for whatever i cared about. Neil would you care the most about . Joy. And i dont think that if we have that then Everything Else seems to be less important. Neil joy and the money you are making. I would like that even more. Even more joyful. It helps put a dent in it. Food and shelter is the most important. Berlin watches, things like that. They get damaged. They can create stress. I want i golden party. I golden time before you die. Hopefully, you know, provide that for other people. All the bad feelings and the pressure and the anger. Something more cheerful like partying. And it works. Moi. Neil putting his response on our website. You have to read. It is so common sense. Acus no matter where you come from, we all have our own bias. I have appreciated. Thank you very much. When we come back, if you have a business, you did not build it, why some critics as saying that the guilt trip going on in washington, it could be the death of america. If only andrew was around for that. Neil well, making more grain for staying in america. The company needs. Saying much of walgreens Financial Success was built on programs and infrastructure. It will continue depends on the u. S. Taxpayers. Is that teeseven are they up for everything . If you think about it, he is referring to, not trying to bite the hand that saddam still of the medicare system, something that they directly benefit from an do not want to chase away. What do you make of that . Well, and existing infrastructure that most of us have no choice in creating a black governmenthundreds and entitlement programs. It is worth pointing out that illinois is a mess under dick durbin. The fourth highest taxes in the developed world. That is why companies are actually leaving. Leon e. A. So this notion of erecting walls to Keep Companies in. As frightening of that notion is. If you look back at history certainly 30 years ago this country did a lot of things to help companies build a Good American companies. Now you have anti corporate policies, particularly when it comes to taxes. And he is right. How Many Companies are trying to get out of illinois. Texas governor rick perry trying to get these companies out. The patent situation. One thing i come away with it neil the tax situation was so lopsided here. Of course theyre going to go where taxes are lower. Why dont we make it easier for them to make the decision. If they had the opportunity to pay zero taxes i am sure we would take it, but it is probably not good for the country. Neil but the 40 . You know, what are you going to do . You know, in the case of most companies i think conservatives tend to devalue the effect that Good Government and infrastructure and things like that have on the ability to do business. If you ever tried to do business in the third world to look into doing it a couple of times. Neil that is not the third world. A lot of companies. It is not the third world, but for a number of reasons that have the taxes we do, the military that we do. Neil isnt there a line between being patriotic and being bathetic. If you are not willing to be a viable financial entity, all the patriotism and the world will keep your doors open. The basic essentials of government like military, like the courts, you know, the essentials are a relatively small cost. A lot of them go to the entitlement programs. Walgreens or any company is a drain on that. They produce the wealth. Compaq of gum, you are so happy that there is a 24hour walgreens. It would be great if companies paid income