Victims. Scratch that more like 100 victims. Hard to say because this number hardly stops growing, doesnt it . Let me tell you if this ebola virus isnt mewtating, a few stories are. Texas officials are saying that at least 100 people were in contact with that patient at least at some point and that may end up being a conservative figure given his travel from liberia then to brussels, then finally to dallas. He leaves he shows up with symptoms on the 24th. He goes to a dallas hospital only to be released then returns two does later in an ambulance with much worse symptoms. Two days after that, hes put in isolation. Hospitals now convinced hes exhibiting classic symptoms of ebola. Who knows how many people he came in contact during this whole saga. Our purpose is not to alarm you in the way that the government is not or will not. Our other purpose is to try and separate the facts from all the hirvetion. So fact one, ebola is here. Fact two, the person who has ebola came in contact with a lot of people before he even knew he had it. Fact three, the hospital let him go even though he mentioned he had traveled from liberia when he was complaining about these symptoms here. Fact four, United Airlines is scrambling to contact hundreds of passengers who might have come in contact with him. Fact five, officials are insisting there remains no contagion an, but dallas people arent taking any chances and are removing their children from schools. More in that in a moment as well. So to review, all is not well on this ebola story. Growing concern that this is the latest case of government officials really not catching on to the severity of things. Think secret service or isis mess. They have a way of festering even as washington keeps dismissing, but ebola is different, isnt it . This is different. A victim who might have come in contact with dozens even hundreds of others is different. Just that remember the same government that told us to stay calm here assured us the chances of ebola coming here was infinitesimal. Heres the latest. Theyre not. What else dont we now know or arent even hearing of now because no one is really saying anything now . To the guy who has all these questions, who chairs the cdc committee. Congressman, im worried. Should i be. I dont think you should be worried. I think you should be concerned. I think by talking about it say good thing. We need to know what were up against. The one thing i would add to your fact list is is that people can become infected and it might take as long as 20 days. Now, in some cases its five to eight days. But during that period of time, you are not contagious, so if mr. Duncan came into contact with people prior to the 24th when he showed the symptoms, they should be okay and then even after that, only if they were in contact with his bodily fluids, sweat or if he threw up on them or if they exchanged saliva or Something Like that. In other words, ebola is a little bit more predictable thansaurus. Because when we had the soarious scare it was an airborne illness. But 3 billion people fly a year. We all need to be concerned. Why that hospital dropped the ball when he said he was from liberia. Neil that was the first thing that would have alarmed me. . but he did say liberia right away. Do we know how he got it . I know he was around a woman who later died of this year, but do we know anything of how he could have contracted. As i understand it, he was helping transport her and apparently somewhere in the exchange, maybe he was closer to her than he let us believe, efsdz forthcoming with all the information and i understand hes going to be charged with something now. Neil the reason i raise that, is someone could have had the same type of contact with duncan on any one of those planes or at one of these airports in the interim or even at the hospital. I agree with you not to extrapolate too much from this, but i just get nervous every time cdc officials and the like tell me or others to stay calm and dont need to worry. Then we have a situation like this that prompts us to do that. One thing were doing is to stay close to the cdc. Weve agreed with their budget request of 30 million to attack this. And another 58 million to advance medical research. And embarred ais going to get 58 millions to work on vaksz. Thats the scary part. There is not a vaccine right now. Neil thank you very much. A lot of fliers. Potentially hundreds of passengers who might have bumped into this ebola victim. For United Airlines, it is a huge undertaking and for the passengers it is now informing. Marketing expert says airlines arent doing a good job. Theyve got this overwhelming job to deal with and track down everyone this guy might have come in contact with. Easier said that done. Right . Absolutely. First of all, they have to understand that the secret service had nothing to do with this guy getting into washington. This happened without anybody noticing, but the big problem that fear spreads faster than disease. The airlines have to get in front of us or people are just going to refuse to get on planes. Neil are we at that point yet . No because its just starting to fester. . look what happened in 9 11, the incidents that tariffed people was not repeated and the infrastructure was not damaged and people still refused to fly. Conventions and vacations canceled. The same thing could happen here. The hospital released this guy. How was an airliner supposed to know. Neil when officials tell us to be calm, but when you keep going back. Heres another disturbing developments. Whether its the disturbing elements of the secret service. Then calling isis the jv teams. Im not blaming authorities, but youve got a pattern here. Across Government Agencies of telling us one and thing then having to revise it. Whats to blame americans of thinking that whatever were being told is wrong. If you remember the movie animal house. There was a riot and the guy at the end said remain calm. All is well. We know all things are not well. Things Like Airlines are they not to call themselves carriers. Are they not to call airports terminals. They chip away. Neil should we have tougher rules . There are a lot of people that is, dont allow flights from n from liberia. Would that calm people down or are we past that point . I think were kidding ourselves. One person can come from one place in the world to another place in the world. You dont see symptoms for 21 days. The bigger issue is if you start putting those symptoms in place. The theres the privacy issues. Second of all people are going to wait in longer lines . You have a real balancing act. Basically, the airlines, boy theyre in trouble if they do and theyre in trouble if they dont. Were going to blame them if they dont do something. Theyre going to lose the dollars. Neil in the interim that is certainly likely the case. Bruce, thank you very much. We should stress as bruce is pointing out. Duncan didnt exhibit any signs when he left liberia or even when he got to dallas. So this socalled 21 incubation period it took days for him to realize that something is going on. Serious enough for him two days later to go to the hospital and get checked out and then be told to leave. Wow. Back to dallas, our countrys ebola center for the moment. Send them to class or keep them home . Dallas radio host and a very good one for the purposes of this interview, dallas area mom. Katrina, what are you you doing . Well, you know, neil with all due respect to your previous guest and to all the elected officials saying the same thing trying to drill this into the minds of everybody in dallas. Dont worry. Yes, the hospital dropped the ball. Yes, the guy got on the plane probably knowing he was exposed, but dont worry . Im sorry thats just not enough. We have illegals coming across the border and bringing other things on a daily basis. Were not confident here that everything is under control. Neil what are you doing with your kids . Are you saying, the risk of them telling you of your kids are having a problem. You dont believe that. As a result are you taking them out . No, i dont think were believing anything theyre saying at this point. Luckily for me my kid is at garland district. The dallas parents are taking their kids out of school which they should be. Neil is this confirming feelings that are rampant already. Were talking about ebola here. We dont know what strain of ebola virus is here. Theyre telling us its not transmitted through the air. But heres the bigger problem, its nice for people outside to say calm down. Dont worry. What were experiencing is the first scene in an outbreak movie more importantly the entire containment protocol is based on the information a dying, desperate man gave him. We dont know whether he was experiencing symptoms or not. Were talking about joint pains, things that could be arthritis symptoms. We dont know if he had symptoms when he got on that plane. Neil we know he wasnt exhibiting those symptoms certainly when he left liberia or when he arrived in brussels. And if he were, he would have immediately gone to the hospital if he was concerned. Theres a lot of loose details. The fact he did check himself into a hospital a few days later, then the hospital releasing him when he said he was in liberia. They didnt keep him. Its over the weekend when its home coming seasons. There are sport related events all weekend. He possibly could have been next to these people. Theyre not even quarantined. What are we going to do in two to three weeks if other people are infected. Neil well see. As a mom, im sure youre worried as well. If the government really dismissed completely on ebola, who is to say they didnt miss it on isis not what theyre doing to take out these terrorists, but what theyre doing over here for fear of even calling it horrific workplace beheading, the act of a terrorist. In the hall of the Mountain King [beeping on the computer] peter come take a look at this. [beeping sounds are more rapid] [beeping sounds are even faster] mr. Daniels . Mr. Daniels . Look at this. Whats this . The numbers they keep getting bigger and bigger. The clicks are off the charts. Yeah the clicks are off the charts. Yoshi, its walt. Were back. Yes sir hi. 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Calling it a workplace violence, doesnt that give people a false sense of security. You have to strike that violence. Neil what would you do. I think you have a strong away game. You need to be perceived as strong with a clear message to the enemy, in this case islamic terrorists. You need to have a very clear strong message on the away game, that makes it easier at home and certainly precludes some of this from developing. Theres no doubt that our enemy wants to attack us on the homeland. And creating the fear that they saw in israeli and certainly creating the fear that we saw in washington, d. C. , even with a domestic sniper case. That kind of fear can cause paralysis. We need to make sure were projecting wed rather fight the away game than the home game. Neil isnt it a different kind of a game. Alqaeda was the big worry under president bush while they certainly had elements here, nothing to the degree that isis has elements here. A lot of recruits here so the idea of lone wolves doing lots of stuff here is substantial. Domestic retaliation is something we looked at during the bush administration. We were very concerned both in normal american towns, but also within the prison population and elsewhere. . its something that youre going to have a tremendous amount of effort that your Law Enforcement, your domestic Law Enforcement has to place against this, but in the end, it has to be coordinated strategy, coordinated Homeland Security strategy athats matching your national Security Strategy overseas. Neil do you think this security and how were dealing abroad matches what were trying to address the home game. I think its dysfunctional. There are certain places with iraq that probably created a vacuum and a problem. Measure that with policy speeches about how were going toee face the enemy and approach terrorism. I think that has an affect. Certainly our enemy listens to what our leaders say. They watch worldwide news like fox news. They understand what were saying. If we match our actions and words, and were consistent . we have a far better chance of having success out there, but well also have a far better chance of preventing this kind of Domestic Violence that were seeing. Neil scary stuff. Now, right about now ive given you all the scary news. Good to know the president chose to do to tell you, guess what economomomomom my mother made the best toffee in the world. Its delicious. So now weve turned her toffee into a business. My goal was to take an idea and make it happen. Im janet long and i formed my Toffee Company through legalzoom. I never really thought i would make money doing what i love. We created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. Go to legalzoom. Com today and make your business dream a reality. At legalzoom. Com we put the law on your side. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about . Foreign markets. 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A new poll says 68 percent dont feel better than when he first took office. To our fox all stars. Tracy, the numbers are right. Markets doubled. Unemployment is down. So the numbers kind of indicate hes technically right so why arent people buying this. The middle class havent felt this. His policies have hurt the middle class. The rich have gotten richer and the lower income people have received more hand out checks than under any other president. Theyre not in the stock market. They havent seen their wages go up. So sitting around the kitchen table, theres almost nothing to smile about. 3 million americans are out of work right now. Its going to show that unemployment is at 6 percent. More and more americans are leaving the workplace. Quitting, not looking for work. Were making plenty of waitress jobs, but nothing to put kids through college. Neil are people feeling are . Are they all waitress jobs are they all bar jobs . Some construction, some manufacturing they seem to be mostly in hospitallalty. Weve seen the averages before in prior recessions. Its good, but not great. And you know what else is key here. The president , you know, basically its really easy to flip the switch auto spending. The federal debt is up 68 percent since the president took office. Thats a whopping amount of money that was funneled through the us economy. Its coming back. Hes talking about redistribution of his policies that basically take that money back and recycle it out. Confer number one in one thing during this mans presidency. A Corporate Tax. While hes been in office, we are now officially the number one highest Corporate Tax rate in the world. With people going to vote how they feel in november. I wonder what this means. Neil its not good for democrats. Its not. Especially with the president coming out, weve helped create jobs. No you havent. Neil if you think about it, if it holds true to what polls are indicating, despite technically better than economic numbers, i agree with all the nuisances you raised. This president could get bludged. He leaves out almost any measure. . the one that is not improving is middle class income. The president consistently doesnt acknowledge the trillions of dollars in health. Neil where would we be without all that. We would be in a deep recession still. Neil so should he take the numbers hes referring to. The fed should take the credit for the stock market market. The more they pulled back. I think its all if the republicans dont come out with a plan, something other than they suck, theyre not going to win. Theyre not going to win. They havent come up with anything new, have they . Neil yeah. I dont know if thats quite the campaign strategist. Celebrities are blaming the tech giant for their nude photo leak. The Attorney Says they might have a case. 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