Apple have been somewhat at a complete separation in terms of whether apple was going to allow the f. B. I. To break into the phone of the San Bernardino suspect. The good news for Law Enforcement is that the Digital Forensic experts at the f. B. I. Was able to crack open the phone. The f. B. I. Just issued a statement saying they used a mysterious method to gain access to the phone. What they have not said is what that mysterious method is. You will see freedom of information requests flying all over the city. Charles this could be the Worst Development for apple. This is the classic privacy versus safety debate. In a world thats so tech savvy its something consumers have to be worried about. But apple held their ground on this. Charles i saw a tweet from frank luntz saying apple won. You the customer, we have your back against these intrusive government. This is a dark night for america. This had to be treated as a National Security issue, not a criminal issue. Not only does the f. B. I. And Law Enforcement have a bone to pick with apple, but so do the american people. And many said they will be doing even more security for their next phone. We also heard it was an israeli firm that was going to help them do it. This still remains an important ethical conversation about the responsibilities of corporations and our ability to investigate in this weird new world of media and terrorism. Isnt it a shame . You just nailed it. Corporate America Needs to step up and help secure this country. Charles do you find apple at fault . I dont like what the nsa was doing, but we have a system where there are courts and warrants that look at a specific situation. A landlord has to let you into an apartment if its ordered, a hotel has to. These are things we all agreed as a society is required if people say peoples lives are at stake. Why we would suddenly ignore those rules because its am or electronics is beyond me because same rules apply to the new world as well. Charles am said millions of phones would become vulnerable to the same intrusions. They were trying to paint themselves as a superhero. Where do you fall on this . I think this is a great day for Law Enforcement. Im glad the f. B. I. Was able to crack open that particular cell phone. This is a matter of National Security. This isnt a matter of just somebody trying to steal Peoples Telephone numbers. And the f. B. I. Was adamant about getting into this cell phone because we can prevent with data and information from the , we can prevent situations like we just saw in brussels. The f. B. I. Did a tremendous job by utilizing their inhouse Forensic Experts to crack open the phone. We have been around in Law Enforcement for a long time. If Law Enforcement built a lock, there will be a criminal to break it. Charles apple said this was an impossible project. They have egg on their face now that this has been broken. That may be the way this is interpreted. But the way this is going is whats on the phone. Its hard to speculate what might be on it, but its important. That will reinforce apples argument or the federal government. If there is a whole host of names here or god forbid in europe. Who know iowa this linkage is. Charles one of the homes where the chemicals are stored there will be was a broken ipad, there is speculation it was left there deliberately to throw Law Enforcement off the trail. But there always certain kind of responsibility. Twitter took out a bunch of accounts after the fact. Maybe its a fine line to find where that area is. Julia brought up a good point. Whats on the phone. If we find it, sammy says there are additional suspects and plans of attacks that will change the entire ballgame. Just because you are opening one phone any more than if you use a locksmith to get into one apartment. While Law Enforcement could go into every apartment, they are held down from being able to do so. Its liked a wild animal. I agree, you cant necessarily trust the government, but this is where new rules and transparency. Charles this is a new lock that can unlock all of those apartments. You could make a master key or knock down doors if you want but we dont. We are at war. This is a matter of National Security. Which is why well go from warrant to warrant and judge to judge, and thats why it works. Charles when it comes to terrorism and the urgency factor. Where should a line be drawn . There is a request for and toll do that for local cases not involving a threat to all humanity but involving criminal activity. Is there a line where apple can say you are asking too much of us . I dont think apple should have any final say one way other other. We are talking about the greater good. We are talking about whats best for the most people in this country. The f. B. I. Was spot on with this and steve rogers talked about this before in our show. By not allowing the f. B. I. To get into that phone, we are putting the nation at further risk. We look at what happened in brussels. If we dont tart gaining access to the data point, then whats going to happen is well lose this entire war against isis and other groups. I want to read a tape from the department of justice on that particular case. Chaos on capitol hill after shots were fired at the capitol hill Visitors Center. During a routine screening the suspect reached according to authority for a weapon. Officers drew their weapons, fired, youring the suspect. Buy anders suffered minor injuries. No officers were hurt. The suspect is no stranger to authority. Police are sure this was a criminal act, not a terrorist act. We believe this an act of a Single Person who has frequented the capitol ground before, and there is no reason to believe this is anything more than a criminal act. Charles joining me by phone chat is our capitol hill senior producer. It feels like the Capitol Hill Police did a magnificent job here. Thats what we are hearing. You heard the chief say somebody didnt get further in. I have been told by authority that the goal it to keep the fight outside. There is a gray zone you come through before you go through security. Thats where they got this guy. There has been talk about pushing that perimeter back. Thats unclear. Im literally a few feet from this vehicle that is the suspects car. They are going to be quote tearing this apart. A dodge ram 150 silver pickup truck parked on the house side of the capitol. You can see the capitol dome behind it. They are not going through this just yesterday. They had an incident where they had a similar incident with somebody with a gun and they had their car packed with explosives and firearm and ammo. I dont think they would let us get this close to the vehicle if they thought something was going to go off. Its a car with tennessee tags and dealer plates, no less. Thats where the investigation is as the suspect is still in surgery. Charles we appreciate your comment walking us through this all day. I want to bring back in the panel. Steve rogers, apparently the suspect is known to the police. At least matthew, the Capitol Hill Police chief on the job for a week admitted as much. Frequented the grounds before. He committed a criminal act, assaulted a Police Officer in 2015. What does this say about the challenge, if you will, those two brothers over in brussels, they had Extensive Police record. And we see this over and over again, where people in the system return again to rear their ugly head. For Law Enforcement every day is a challenge. But the police chief, you doves to him. Sergeant joe friday used to say, just the facts maam, just the facts. He comforted the nation by saying this was not an act of terrorism and told us the facts we needed to know. The fact that we have people running around who are mentally unstable, Law Enforcement knows about them. But in this case the metal detectors work. Those two officers. Their quick action saved a lot of lives. Im glad they took them alive because you might find what the motive was. It what you his first press conference. They had to tell him to move closer to the microphone. He talked about the shelter being in place. I think some of the questions people will have, some of the questions asked immediately after this. You can walk in there a descent amount and be in a decent amount and be inside before the metal detectors. With the focus on soft target where should the perimeters be . From the direction this guy walked into the Visitors Center. He made it inside the Visitors Center. But he didnt go too far. I would say 2530 feet on the inside. We have layered security measures around our buildings in d. C. He had to go through two security measures before he got there. The layered security measures on the outside does not consist of check for weapons. But once you get on the inside, we have officers that are ready at a moments notice to take action, and thats what these two officers did today. There were 1012 officers in that immediate area. Charles we held our breath because we heard if this was any hint of terrorism, it would have been a different story. The Police Officers took him out. But if he had a bomb, if he had something he could have thrown. We had so many tourists there. The president is on the ground. Easter egg roll. After they had the pakistan bombing at the easter celebrations. The fact that he did get in so far if we should have had an elevated security dynamic, but at least for this week with knowing whats going on. We are in denial of our dynamic. Charles there is no doubt that well reconfigure a lot of security measures. When we come back the next gop contest head to the midwest. Thing are shaping up to be a tight race. In donald trump doesnt win wisconsin and pennsylvania, we have a heck of a battle. The battle for wisconsin is bigger than people are talking about. But first we have an eyewitness account from dam shooting on capitol hill. We were putting our belongings on the security conveyer belt to go through, and all of a should therein was a scramble with people yelling and screaming with officers coming out from every direction with guns drawn saying shots had been fired. Charles all eyes on wisconsin. 42 delegates up for grabs. Polls show its a tight race between donald trump and ted cruz. And in many what is it could be make or break for both of them in different ways. We are just now learning Governor Scott walker will announce who plans to endorse tomorrow. Remember Charlie Sykes had an interview this morning with donald trump and he will also be on cavuto tomorrow which i will be airing. Van, let me ask you first, wisconsin, all the math i have seen shows donald trump winning enough delegates before the convention has him winning wisconsin. Its a very tight race. The sheriff has spoken favorably of senator cruz and donald trump. A pop today has drum at 29, and cruz at 27. The numbers are there for trump and cruz to win. Who has the best technology . John kasich and senator cruz have used dat an lit is technology very effectively. If trump had used the type of technology they have been using, i think he could have put this thing away. Charles from what i understand hes not going to air any Television Commercials in wisconsin are cruz and kasich are going heavy. Every delegate counts, and there are 42 up for grabs in wisconsin. I think there is a big rally in janesville followed by a town hall. A lastminute appeal to to voters. Well see if Governor Scott walkers endorsement will move the needle. Cruz is following scott walkers roadmap when he campaigned for governor, appealing to a lot of farmers and factory workers and blue collar workers. But one thing thats in trumps favor is open primaries tbhorkd his favor. We saw that here in massachusetts, since january 1, 20,000 democrats quit the party, over 15,000 of them become unenrolled to vote for trump, a vast majority of them and 3,500 switched their enrollment to republican to vote for trump. So that could be the advantage in wisconsin. You asked the question what happens if trump doesnt win wisconsin. He needs to take home 30 delegates so he needs the 18 statewide delegates you need to take home wisconsin. I understand where his strength is in wisconsin. Its in the northern and western part of the state. Where hes weak in the southern part of the state and thats where ted cruz will hammer home along with john kasich. Forget the television advertising. 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He was misidentified as the us next this airport photo usual look at. Reporter this man was taken in front of the judge as a matter of protocol and the judge said there was not enough evidence to hold him. The Prosecutors Office has recirculated that cctv footage. Whoever he is, he is at large. 367 the investigation continued at a rapid pace. There was a raid in italy. There was another in paris. Its very complex. It seems they all communicate through cell phones. Cell phones are among the items investigators are seizing as they go to these different houses. A lot of i am cards. The third bomb is still at large and the second participants from the metro bomb. Whar a lot of arrested all over europe. The network, the terror network, we might existed, gift feels like its a lot more sophisticated than we thought before. Could this be the i am they can move throughout europe but the european agencies had to coordinate and synchronize. They have 27 of those. But they are getting good at getting the information about one specific network. But they need to work strategic on the long term together. Charles a lot of lives are being lost along the way. Isnt it intriguing that european nations have created the eu so they could flow better, and they share a currency but they wont share information. You are going to see these nations saying we need borders. In hungary, the president said you can march through hungary, but dont stay here. The lax attitude the europeans have had about the colonies within the state. Like molenbeek and rotterdam. What you need is an intelligence apparatus with interpol being a lot more village lengths. There is a necessity at this time to have all these agencies work together. The cooperation did not exist in the past and the laxity on the part of the belgium secret police has been very apparent. Charles the idea that these colonies exist within these countries. We are talking millions of people. 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Mitt romney won these voters, by only won 59 of the white vote in that elect. Donald trump is saying he can increase the vote coming out to vote for republicans. Hes bringing together a new republican coalition, working class voters that we have been talking so much about. But the concern with donald trump is these suburban voters who have typically supported republicans would give the party a second look. Charles if you had to pick a weakness for donald trump, this would be the area. Would it be enough to offset the independent and the wouldbe reagan democrats . This is not guesswork. We have seen that