Midterm. Trump were going to win so much, you may get tired winning, and youre going to see, please, please, were tired of winning. We cant take it anymore. Mr. President , its too much. And ill say, no, it isnt. We have to keep winning. We have to win more. Liz welcome to risk and reward, im Liz Macdonald in for deirdre bolton. Now, u. S. Markets closing mixed today with the dow and the s p slightly to the downside. Oil taking 2 again, dragging energyrelated stocks down. This as georgia shows once again that democrats lack of policies, obstructionism, three protests, Hillary Clinton summer resistance, all of that trump hatred all to not work with voters. The voters want more. So the question is could this pave the way for maybe a pro growth agenda coming out between democrats and republicans maybe getting together for once . Lets get back to the democrats in georgia, karen handle defeated john in a closelywatched race. It was the most expensive house race ever. The gop has swept all four special elections so far this year, possibly clearing a path to the president s pro growth for agenda. Democrats are seriously fearing that their antitrump obstruction strategy simply dont work. Now, remember when Hillary Clinton joined the resistance. Watch. Im now an active citizen part of the resistance. Liz and remember when former u. S. Attorney general Loretta Lynch under president obama endorsed taking to the streets . I know that this is a time of great fear and uncertainty for so many people. I know its a ton of concern for people who see our rights being failed, trampled on, and even rolled back. I know that this is difficult, but i remind you that this has never been easy. Theyve marched, theyve bled. Yes, some of them have died. This is hard. Every good thing is. We have done this before. We can do this again. Liz but msnbc morning show, thats joe scarborough, he warns democrats, you know, marching in the streets is not enough. It does not win elections. Democrats have now lost special elections in georgia, south carolina, montana, and kansas. Theyve been losing since 2010. I dont want to offend anybody here, but if the democrats want to start winning, i feel like i need to say this. I have a lot of friends and loved ones that have been out in these marches that go, you know, every week theyll be marching about something else. Ive been saying all along if you need to do that, if it makes you feel good, then do that. But understand if you want to change america, and you want to change the world, youre much better off going into districts campaigning for somebody knocking on doors. Marching in the streets, great pictures, makes you look good, does not win elections. Liz lets bring in former Trump Campaign chief operating officer. Jeff. Good to see you, jeff. Good to see you, liz. Thank you for having me. Liz sure. Now, jeff, this is a big wakeup call for democrats. The antitrump hatred and protest marches, its not enough. But dems have been losing for seven years since 2010. Any policies that the working class voters like and the other voters like as well. What do you think . Right. And theyve been moving beyond trying to promote policies and playing a game of obstruction. This was a huge message that was sent last night again, now the fifth message after donald trump being elected was the big message that the American Public wants Donald Trumps policies, and they want lawmakers that are going to work with President Trump. This is a massive win for the trump camp, and this, again, shows that what the democrats are doing is not what the American Public wants. Liz well, heres what the democrats are doing. We know that the bernie democrats are talking about a quote positive economic vision. Its okay to march for things like that if you have policies that will attract voters. But, jeff, theres a 90degree angle that theyre taking to the far left with policies that the voter doesnt want. Exactly. And thats been one of the reasons why republicans have done so well like you pointed out over the last seven years, not just this election is because the left has moved further left. And thats not popular with a lot of the people, even in the middle. So the democrats are realizing now that no matter how much money they throw at bad policies, theyre not going to win. But, again and look at what karen handle ran on. She ran on a donald trump platform. She ran very close to donald trump, and she ran promoting some of the same things from repealing obamacare to tax reform, to building a wall. Those are the policies that theyre winning. Liz this is not our parents jfk Democratic Party. Some of them may not have liked her she doesnt have a progressive kind of social message that some voters like, you know, gay marriage or on birth control. Shes pretty much to the, you know, to the right. But you know whats really interesting, jeff. Did the polls get it wrong again . I mean, before the race showed handle nearly deadlocked. Some other people reported on another race. Watch this. The abc news tracking poll has Hillary Clinton up by 12. Over the weekend, an abc tracking poll of likely voters put clinton 12 points in front of donald trump. No candidate down this far this late has ever recovered. Liz well, President Trump saying, well, the special elections are over. Those who want to make America Great again, theyre 50. Its really 40. The polls, again, show that you really cant trust them; right . No, and i think a lot of Campaign Consultants around the country are scratching their head right now trying to figure out how the polls can be very wrong. I will say this. Depending on what pollster you hire, you will get different results. So it always leads you to believe that somebody can play with the numbers to get the result they want because the polls seem to be moving further away from reality. But reality is this that the pendulum is not swinging back any time soon to the establishment and to the do nothing policies of the past. They spoke with donald trump, and they spoke again now. They want action. Liz right. And heres the point. Both reagan and bill clinton worked with the opposition. And the opposition could take credit if the economy began moving again. Theres no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he does not mind sharing the credit with the other side. So now weve got the blue dog democrats, jeff, we know, and you said this species of blue dog democrats. These are the moderate democrats. You can fit them in a phone booth, probably. I think there are 18 of them. They met with President Trumps Economic Team to talk about tax reform; right . So, jeff, is that a positive development . You know, i think its a very positive development because what everybody really wants deep down, the average American Voter just wants everyone to get the policies done. To get tax reform done. Really to move the country forward. Thats what everybody wants deep down. They dont want the games and the partisanship. So i commend the blue dogs that are coming over now saying weve got to do Something Different because really, theyre going to be an endangered species if they dont work to get something done. They come from districts where they want to work along with the administration as well. So youre seeing this now. Youre seeing the Democrat Party in such disarray that theyre coming over now. You know, the democrats, all they have left in their playbook is to go to a safe space, have a group hug, and blame russia. And theyve got to learn to move past that. A, as a lifelong republican, im glad thats all they know how to do. But very good for republicanism right now. Liz you do want a strong Democrat Party. You need a strong opposition party. The way this system is now is broken. I dont think its healthy for the country to have the democrats in such disarray. You need to have good, solid debate. Go ahead, jeff. Well, we need good, solid debate, but we also need fresh blood in washington because when we keep electing the same people, we get the same result. No ones happy with it. So on both sides of the aisle, i think both parties, really, theres an antiincumbent wave, and thats why you look at someone like donald trump getting elected having no political background, thats what we want. We want to do things differently. The American Public wants donald trump, they Want Congress to rally around donald trump and to get something done. And i think, you know, i dont know how many times they have to speak before Congress Wakes up and starts working with the president. But its time now to work with the president. Its time. Liz underneath that gridlock is decades of incumbency. Theyve been insulting each other for years. How can they get anything done . Jeff, youre terrific. Thank you for coming on. Democrats lost big time. They suffered a crushing defeat, cost them 27 million. This is georgias special election. That was the runoff yesterday. It is the most expensive house race ever. Record amounts of money, including from outsiders, even after Many Democrats have repeatedly said enough. We want Campaign Finance reform. Stop with this money. Watch. Today, we have a Campaign Finance system, which is undermining american democracy. Campaign finance reform and reducing the power of special interest is directly related to getting washington working for people again. I support dramatic reform of our campaign financing. Today we have a corrupt Campaign Finance system in which billionaires and super pacs and large corporations are able to buy elections. Liz lets take that to the political power panel. We have former Hillary ClintonCommunications Director adrian. Good to see you, adrian. And also Washington Examiner contributor. First to you. Its the most expensive house race ever but a lot of money coming in. But the democrats are complaining about Campaign Finance reform. How do you square both of that . Another case of do as i say, not as i do. And especially when you look at the playbook they use for the presidency, democrats are both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton spent about 563 million during the primary and of course donald trump raised about 67 million. So it was a very big difference there. I think that the democrats, the fact that they dont have a message that the fact that they continue to just say, hey, were going to obstruct trump or resist, which i think the resistance plan is working. Democrats, independents, and republicans are resignatio resisting voting for democrats, so its working to a large degree. But they need to cleanup their act immediately, otherwise theyre going to see more and more failure. Liz made a good point that joe biden would have been a better candidate because he would have been the workingclass voter thats interested in the policies and issues to help be successful. What are your thoughts about that . Well, first of all, i just want to remind both of you and your viewers that Hillary Clinton won this election by nearly 3 million votes in the popular vote. But thats irrelevant. Were moving forward. Yeah. Very much irrelevant because she didnt win the presidency. So thats a very irrelevant fact there. Thank you for mentioning it, though. My plan is its not worth going back looking backwards. Liz most of those votes were in california. Were talking state to state whos looking, again, adrian, youve seen this too. This is not our parents Democrat Party. Its no longer the jfk pro growth party. The workingclass voter, they want to see what the democrat policies are instead of the obstructionism. Go ahead. No, absolutely. I agree with you. And weve got a lot of soulsearching to do as democrats. You know, i work at the Democratic CongressionalCampaign Committee during the 05, 06 cycle when democrats took back the house and part of what we did was went into red states, went into purple states, like ohio, and North Carolina who fit the profile of that district. Oftentimes they were democrats like keith and brad who were very liz adrian just nailed it. Adrian just nailed it. You know why . Why . Liz 2018 is 2006 all over again where george w. Bush faced big losses when the democrats said you know what . Were going to step up about policy. Let me take it a step further. What she just said, they need to take let me take it a step further, in 2008, said republican is now dog food. We rebuild, won back the house, won back the senate, and we retooled. And i think thats what democrats have to do in order to be a bit challenged. Liz thank you, adrian for bringing up 2006. It is such an important point. Thank you so much. Thank you. Liz earnings after the bell beat estimate for the fourth quarter. Anthem. You know anthem. It is the insurer with obamacare. Larger than most other insurers. But they have now pulled out of two more states. Indiana and wisconsin citing unstable markets. Anthem stock closing slightly higher just above 192 a share. Now, well bring you back to this story. A Police Officer stabbed in the neck and the back at an International Airport in flint, michigan. Fbi investigating it as a possible act of terrorism. Were waiting on a press conference about that. The fbi also giving an update on the gop baseball game shooter today. Saying more than 200 rounds of ammunition at a local storage unit. He visited that unit sometimes twice a day before the attack. Were going to have details on exactly what he was doing and were more attacks planned . But first, democrats turning against their own collusion theory about trump and russia. We have now california democrat congressman Maxine Waters. She is a antitrump critic. She now says theres no evidence. Were going to play you that sound after this i dont honor him. I dont respect him, and i dont want to be involved with him. My greatest desire is to lead him right into impeachment. My position against this president and his administration is clear. I oppose this president. I do not honor this president. I do not respect this president. Whether hes talking about his relationship to putin and the kremlin knowing that hes responsible for supplying the bombs that killed innocent children and families in yeah, in aleppo. And the fact that he is wrapping his arms around putin while putin is continuing to advance into korea. Liz that was Maxine Waters talking about trump russian collusion now but now the democrats are turning on this collusion theory. Now democrat congresswoman waters a antitrump critic says there is no evidence. But im not prepared to say theres proof you could take to a jury. Do you agree with this conclusion that the president has reached that there was no evidence of collusion . You know, we havent seen any of that whatsoever, george. Weve been looking in everything that they possibly have. That has not led to that. The last time we spoke, senator, i asked you if you had actually seen evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and the russians, and you said to me, and im quoting you now. You said not at this time. Has anything changed since we spoke last . Well, not no, it hasnt. Just to be clear, we havent there are has been no actual evidence yet. No, there has not been. Liz joining me now from london, the London Center for policy research, he is retired Lieutenant Colonel tony shafer. Good to see you, colonel. Good to see you. Thank you for having me. Liz so now we have Maxine Waters, dianne feinstein, along with brooks, they all say there is no evidence that the president colluded with russia. What do you say . Well, ive talked to republicans i respect on the hill long before this who have said the same thing. Anyone who is rational who has been watching the facts, not the fiction and the narrative have recognized a long time ago that this is very damaging. This is very damaging because there is no evidence and yet certain members of the Democrat Party have built up expectations. Those expectations in many ways were then expanded by the acceptance of violence and because of the violence, others have taken action in order to attack members of congress. So this is not only factless, its dangerous. And i believe the democrats are finally waking up to the reality that there is no evidence, and they need to basically focus on the facts, not the fiction which they wish to portray. Liz yeah, but youve seen it since november that speculation is reported as fact. Opinions are reported as facts. How much is the media responsible here . A lot. The democrats have been using the Mainstream Media and, look, let me be clear. You guys have been great. The main fox channel has been great. But ms ill just say who they are. Cnn, msnbc, new york times, washington post, have all been guilty of slander, of i would say borderline on sedition because they picked up information that was actually dangerous and divisive. So i think at this point in time since then, weve seen a continued march of the Mainstream Media down this, and its been horrible. Liz you just brought up possible violence. We have news breaking from the fbi. James, the shooter at the baseball game, he had a storage facility. This is breaking news from the fbi. He