Education, and its enemies, that is sour show tonight. Is our show tonight. John biggest education controversy this year over common core. The supporters say this is eye single common standard that tells parents, in every state, this is when your kid ought to know, some Union Teachers are upset. They are crippleing our students education, and joy of learning, common core standards they must contan ly struggle. To push themselves to levels that are not developly arope yeahappropriate. John no say common core support supporters. Life is full of measures sticks, how smart we are, how fast we are, how well we can you know compete. But until now, it has been hard to tell how well kids are competeing in school, and how will they will do when they get out of school, that is where common core standards come in. John here is a mag problem. Compose, and decompose numbers from 11 to 19, to 10 ones, and furth ones by using op jecing on or draws and record each. That is my wel produceer. Asking people to solve a common cormaccore smack seem complex, no kidding. That is a problem for the kindergarten students. Robert of institute said common core is a good thing. Helping American Kids compete. Cory said no, it is just more Central Planning, it will fail, again and again. You are from a conservative group. Common core . Why . You have to remember what led us here. We had 50 different states and standards and tests. We s was a dumbing down employee saw it in south bronx. Kids counting on fingers, then they get test results back they were level 3 and level 4. I knew they were not as good as test said, but that bar kept getting lower and lower. John the no child left behind, we better lower standards . There was no reason for a state. To do that, if i have to prove my kid was proficient but i set the b what do i do . You set it low. You may not like common core, but remember practice what what brought us here,. Here,. John now we have Central Planning. , i am not sure i agree with Central Planning, you had front states raceing to the trough to get the fed money, i wish it had not happened. It is ease fo easy to say ho john some are saying we remember in but now we want to be out. Indiana, oklahoma, south carolina, mo missouri, louisiana. Right now in america, there are professional Development Going on, new thing will come in to classroom, principal will told miss nelson, here is howo you it now. She will smile, and she will say thank you. And shut her door, and do what she always does. She is a good teacher, if a principal cant get her to change practice, i dont think that barack obama will have a better chance. That is the problem that common core came with a package of things that requires to get in classroom with teacher, federal government requireed state to make those test matters for teachers performance, she said, would be say shame if something happened to your state money. They would have common core, because the feds are piper calling tune. John a question some first graders get. What is 32 minus 12, 20, right . But not under the new common core method. Why are they doing this backward method. This man trained in Nuclear Engineering does not understand. I do not understand. He was not alone. This is how y arrive at the answer. That is insane, why so many steps. Why does it have to be so complicated. And third greaters. 426 and 17 by breaking apart numbers that make it 10. What . We gave energy another shot. You are looking lost. Why would you break it down that way, that is 4 steps more than you need to get to same result. Make sense. No, that is ridiculous. Now, i know why he had trouble inag, which i had to pay for math tutors. John a lot of people are saying my kid does not like math any more. Y would say that not common core, i saw equations like this every day in my mac math textbo. It is not. If you look at common core, it does particular said to do what ricky was doing, tells kid, to have you play all these number games before you get to standard alga rhythm. John there has to be a better way to learn, these are not idiots petitioning it. Well, assumeing too much. John like your twitter account background you have bart simpson saying, i will quit blaming common core. That has become a whipping boy. Neil but central john but Central Planning should be a whipping boy. For example all cars have a standard. You have come to accept it with cars. And food and building codes. Im going to one up your car example, one of my favorite ways to common core henry ford response with model t, you can have any color you like, so long as it is plaque, that is yo blag as you can have any curriculum you want so long as your kid does good on tests. One big criticism of common core, Central Planning, who buys textbooks, who hires teachers in local school districts. John government. Be that as it may, federal government is not telling you who should teach your kid in yo local school district. The Gates Foundation is, they set up a committee to riew those textbook to fit, com commn corps. John you say Gates Foundation is a scheme with america, that comes with money, the eduecrats accept it. In 1833, time was not standardizeed in this country. John that is good. And you know why, railroads s gave up standard time. John the tie to dom common core . Standards arrive when we need them. If dom op core goes away tomorrow well have other horrible international comparisons. John why not have choice . Parents would figure out which schools taught well. Im a big choice advocate. It sounds like it. It mes me nervous, you can havehoice in certain things, the is a low price to pay, if somebody chooses badly, you dont get a second. John but they get no good choices now they are stuck in a monopoly. So where is conflict between saying we choice but everyone has to build a car to a certain safety standard, if you want to run a school there are certain conditions to meet. John on street we found one person who liked it. The concept is good. A teacher has been teaching common core. Once people get comfortable with it, they wont remember the way it used to be. Can you imagine why they are ustrated. Absolely. John another problem. Subprabgz woul traction subte minus 4 3 left. If you 7 minus 4. You are showing h he additio. Joy . This illustrates, were talking about standard this is problem with calling this set standard, it implies there is something good about it. So Safety Standards are different. That is a different level than walking into a classroom, and saying we know more than you about what your kids should learn. You are uncomfortable describes the level that kids should be able to get to ed keyineducational. I am comfortable saying it for my own children, not saying i should be great education i look at common core as a all but saying due core knowledge. Get science and history. That is great thing to say. There are 57 words say they should have a great curriculum, but they dont provide it. We cant. Were not allowed by law. Thank you. You with tweet with that hash tag back t backtoschool. Coming up better ways in my opinion, to learn. Also, cost of higher education, what this girl did to pay that st. Musical chairs. Fun, right . Welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. Thats their game. The flights you want are blacked out. Or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. Honestly, its time to switch to the venture card from capital one. With venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. No blackout dates. And with every purchase, yll earn unlimited double miles. From now on, no ones taking your seat away. Whats in your wallet . John watching debate over common core. Anew points out, in cover story, common core happened 8 years after president bush and kennedy not together to give us an approach to learning no child left behind. In that box is a bill, i dont intend to read it a. He signed it without reading it and the crowd cheered. No child left behand came 8 years after president clinton. Fought a 2000. That world class education standard. Crowd aplaye applauded that. But goal 2000 of rereworking are a School Reform plan called america 200 2000 pushed by first president bush. He said it was revolutionary, said he wanted to be called education president , and camera followed him into a classroom. Does this look familiar . 7 years before president bushs National Education strategy, president reagan punched something similar. I wonder why that of needed, done president carter restore excellence . We wi open up first time, some 0 subtio 0 substantial benr our country. John promises to fix americas education problem. I am determined well cut out unnecessy regulations john please, for 40 years education bureaucrats added unnecessary forms and applications and red tape, education reform like an itch that reformers cannot scratch. And why should say, new education reform brings them money. And since reforms never work all right reform creates a need for more reform, and more money, america spends 3 times what we spent when jimmy carter fixed problem by creating the department of education. Trouble money no improvement. Improvement for professional education researchs, money comes from government and foundations and army of these ed youcrats eduecrats found work at lobbyists. So great a mass of these specialists cannot be kept idle, after 40 years of failed reform they brought us another common core. I believe common core state standards may prove to be move important thing to happen in america. This wi work. They say, fergieing for said that world of spreadgation reform is a ferguson said that the world of education reform is a cozy fraternity, they feed off wealth of the bill and mel inda Gates Foundation, and common core would not exist without, that bill puts ni sleep, so we will listen to melissa. Saying that common core. These are what i needo know mytion students learn this year. Those are standards only an edid youcrat could love or understand. One side fitting all may be a mockery. But expertsne size fits wall is ideal, they find choke with charts, graphing. 300 Million Dollars keeps a lot of experts busy, this money down the drain, allows common core advocates to say, that the federal different of education cannot produce those common core standards, our nations ed youcrats from deuceed them, but this is without a difference, now school year begins, common core will be tested. Then, new tests will reveal, oops, they are still not learng, they will come you were with a new national reform, this one with teeth, high stakes consequences, a new president will fun it with new money, and declare it is a national priority. She will want to be called educational president too, the free market may overcome the educrats and the government, new and better ways to learn are appearing millions of people have mastered a language by playing a game on their cell phone, a free game. Languages are split into bite size skill skills that feel like games, you lose a love when you get something wrong. When we return. Other better ideas, tools that make learning fun. Music hey there starting your search for the right used car . I am, but i dont want one thats had a bunch of owners. Well, our teams on the lookout for oneowner cars. [peck, peck, peck, sounds like morse code] found a great car. Low mileage. Oneowner. It takes years to learn woodpecker. Only one site has a free carfax report for every car listed. Its perfect start shopping at the new carfax. Com you thinkin what im thinkin . Yeah we love to work at nothin all day and weve been taking care of business its all right whew taking care of business, saved the day of. John do you want to learn a language . Go to school or and take a course, or download this phone application. Languages are breaking down to if you like games. Duolingo teaches you to read and write and listen and weep. It does, and it works and its free. 25 Million People have used them. Many say that it is better than a college course. John the Computer Programming gives you instant customized feedback. And its a better way to learn. Thanks to new technology, all kinds of good things are happening in here to tell us about it is my next guest. Its a really interesting model that they have at duolingo. Not like something that i can with any other company. What they do is once the students have developed the skills and the language, they allow learners the opportunity to translate documents like menus and more things and then do a presentation. John or something having to do with robots . Robots . Yes, but this isnt something you may not have seen. Its a robot thats in a classroom and it may be where the faith ought to be and thee3 kids can then communicate with a teacher at a distance. The teacher can view the kids and their work through the ipad and its a fascinating sort of alternative although it is a bit creepy. John some companies most excited about interactive education are like this one. This is how you sound out a word. What is exciting is that its a completely interesting system. That has to be better than any classroom instructors. What we see with this instruction is that it can do a much finer level of analysis and onthefly adjustment for every3 individual child who uses a. And its also something estimate that as an pplication that i havent had here. With these applications and the best ones that we see on the market today, we have in them adjusting in realtime. And maybe that is advancing at a student can go a little bit further and this gives a good review from us because it has lots of things that we like to see. Adapting levels of difficulty. John theres another one called mind snacks . Guesstimate what they do is they have language learning apps and then they have a vocabulary application for kids. This includes a number of different vocabulary games and has the adapting levels of difficulty and remediation and the best ones that we see are those that are most sensitive to what the learner can do. John we have reviewed almost 3000 applications, only 10 get a grade a or grade b two. Thats right, we review what has been told is most effective from the usability design perspective. The sad fact of the matter is that there are just not a lot of really highquality instruction on the market. John but there will be because they have to compete with each other. You would be surprised at how some People Choose their applications. John thank you, karen. Coming up next, fighting about all choice. Why is this so important . Because i have a 12yearold graduating from the sixth grade and she cannot spell the word girl. John this line goes on and on. It goes around the block. People lined up because they hoped to help those kids escape bad run schools. And thousands f parents hope for one of only one of a few hundred spots. Here are some of the winds. John this woman just realized that her grandson while we pay. Shes upset, but she tries to comfort her grandson. Their hearts and shouldnt be token, says that the of the American Federation for children. And i agreed with her, but she says that choice makes things better. Yes, it can make things better. But in education, it means that we are setting up children or they are competing against each other. And it is the schools that do the choosing. We see a pattern as the Charter Schools are pushing out students who have special needs, students were english language learners. The reality is that most in this country take the kids that are doing poorly in the schools they were assigned to. And all of the parents, all they want is greater choice for their children. The more choices they have come the more competition they have treated but also the better learning opportunity for the kids. Let the parent tech. We are not letting the parent make all choices. There are certain choices that are not on the table. Its not just stay and improve your school but theres no choice to reduce this. It is the choice to pull your child out and try one of these other schools. The reality is there is probably the greatest array of choice and the districts in which there are a lot of choices for parents is public and it has actually gotten better. But the reality is when you ge parents choices they make good choices and are happy with how the kids are doing. If theyre not happy come in a change to another school. In every area of our society, choices work in. We need parents t have the power and the opportunity to transform their schools. You show a line of parents waiting to get into a school and i can show you a line of parents waiting to save their Public School from being closed down. There has been a push by people like yourself to promote choice and push those out of the public system and into a freemarket. The reality is we have been stuck in a factory model of society. A lot of the choices are proliferating with the innovative teaching and learning. And some of the most celebrated ones emphasized Test Preparation and the problem is the more we emphasize the proliferation of numerical options, the more that we drain resources away from the public systems. It needs to be robust so the can take anybody who walks through the door. Lets look at the Charter Schools who claim resources dont matter and its not about money and yet they spend more money for people than the average person. But what for . T reality is that most parents choose dont have as much as the traditional schools. We are dealing wit the question that is staring us in the face. They are providing all children with what we know to be the resources that they need. How much money one particular school . I dont have a number at the tip of my brain. But if this country, we have enormous diversions as with what students will get in school. John you dont want to name a number. Are you implying that we are spending less on schools than we used to enact. I understand that there are ways in which School Spending has increased. Some of us includes spending enormous sums now. And theres not all the choices on the table. And we dont have a choice. Coming up, fixing what is wrong with education. And what this College Student does to pay for her ridiculously expensive college. Musical chairs. Fun, right . Welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. Thats their game. The flig