Pacino. John and the super markets . So much choice, that is our show, tonight. John we talk choice, not much more important than health care. President sold obamacare saying it would lower costs, and give us more coverage, and more good choices. Winwin. Some people would gain better insurance, and if they done they wouldnt lose anything. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. John oops that did not work out so well. Millions have learned that no, you dont get to keep your doctor, 6 million policies were canceled. But millions of Americans Without Health Insurance before now have it. That is why obamacare is good. Says the doctor london of doctors for america. A group that wants government to pay for more of our health care. On other side, Michael Cantor of cato institute, wrote a book saying we need more competition, less government. Kathline, i agree with michael. But you say that obamacare is great . I am looking at number people who came in before had to choose between paying ren or health care. Or could not get it because of preexisting conditions or other reasons who are now able to get coverage. Those plans that were canceled, were not really good coverage. These were plans that when you got really sick, they were greedy Insurance Companies were selling junk to people . Number one reason that plans did not meet obamacare standards they did not offer a lengthy time for a maternitto be covered, that is fine, but if i am a 55yearold gay man, i am not worried about my maternity coverage. John but were in this together, dont we everyone covered . Sure, and obamacare has covered 8 million people, about half are pushed ied in edmided t loughly 5 million were forced to get other policies, i cannot buy the type of insurance they want, and i am pushed into a plan with a narrow network, and may not include my current doctor. John i would not agree with you to say we everyone covered. I want a free market, i want people to have skin in the game. We did that, it failed. John when. That is what we had before. John when. Before. John no. How. 990 were paid by billinsura. You get money from Insurance Companies. That is not a market. Back 40 years. John we have not had it since world war ii. Because of a incentive to hire employees because of big Big Government managing our lives reducing our choices now we have more with obamacare. Insurance companies are more of the issues and frustrations you are discussing, i dont disagree on that mark. As a physician i have more difficulty dealing with private insurers than medicare. But that is is not case for long in 2017 when independent payment advisery board takes affect government will ratchet down reembuyers am rate reimbursement rates. John somebody will ration either patient or private Insurance Company or government. It should be me, i should make that decision. John pay your own bills. I should, but under obamacare, i cant because i am mandateed to buy insurance, and buy a specific 5 o type of insue that government thinks that i should have. John why do i have to buy alcohol rehab coverage, and diet care, and Maternity Care . That goes with were a society. John why dont i have a choice. Your dietary choice, were all paying for it, we have an obesity epidemic, diabetes is number one we have as an epidemic we pay for, we have alcoholism, these problems, you pay now or later, a lot cheaper to pay now, and Maternity Care, when we did not have that mandate, i was in the met med call school, i got medical school, i am with my md from yale, guess what a preexisting condition, i could not get covered. A physician starting tuition at yale, you could pay your. I was paid 20,000 a year as a residence, i could not get Maternity Care. There are ways to deal with preexisting conditions that did not involve over charging Young Healthy people, and subsidize older sick people, why should someone out of college. What are you doing about diseases, you get back to idea were aie a society. Tion peopl sphaopb people shoe responsible for their own life styles. You will ding people with bad genetics . Look we could deal with preexisting conditions. We deal with people. No one dealt with it until obamacare happened. It was not a perfect plan, it addressed preexisting conditions. Lifetime caps, and everything else, all issues that we have. That were not addressed. As we move forward, we will continue to form it to something better. John since were all in this together, you say, and others have to pay for my cost, should we ban cigarettes and alcohol . I do believe in sin tax. Require mandatory exercise every morning they did it in north korea. John on that note thank you, and another fight about health care and choice, to me, a basic, medical, moral question is, who owns your body, i would think you do. In a free society, i would think that means you could go take risks, go skiing, drive a race car, or you could try a medicine that you think might help you. But in america, you cannot try a medicine without government approval, some people die because the fda will not allow them to try a drug. You have a terminal illness which you have a right to try treatments to might save your life but not approved. Mckalea died two weeks ago, he lobbied to save his wife but ran out of time. John she died in april, the drug was approved last week. Two brothers with an illness causing their muscles to wither awaying in they day there is no known cure but, younger brother was lucky, the fda allowed him to try an exper think at drug, max is Getting Better but his brother austin is not. My brother max can run, and walk, i can only stay in my wheelchair and watch him. John our government will not allow somethin austin to try sog that worked for max. If austin is never given a chance to get on the drug, we know with 100 certainty he will die. John he will die, the government said no, there is any neighborhood news, 3 states good news, 3 states that passed laws if you are terminaly ill, the choice is yours sort of, you may try an experiment at drug, if you can prove you are terminal, it the drug company will let you have it and if fda does not order drug company not to get you, this happened because of work of think tank of goldwater institute. Starly coleman works on this, am i characterizing this correctly, three states now . You can now beg and try to get something to keep you alive. Innese 3 states those 3 states, they can go arounded fda on a drug company to save their own lives. John but they might say no they dont want to get in trouble with the fda. They might, we want people to have a choice to try to accept their own life without the government. Government. John fda said, we have a come patcompassion at use process, we allow nearly every expanded request to succeed. The problem with that program it takes over 300 hours are bureaucratic paperwork and wrangleing to get through the process there, have been a lot of documented cases of people dying while they are waiting for the fda to make a decision. John it can take years, it routinely does. They allow them 3 years later . Were talking about terminaly ill people, they dont have 300 hours. I am going to the drug company with an expe experimental drug,y will give me an answer, i will have a choice to try. John josh has als, his family initiateed this process. It took joshs family about 3 years, he has hired a law firm to get through the process, crazy thing about josh, his story, that drug that he wanted to try, was manufactureed in virginia by an American Drug company, already legal in italy. He just topped try it three years, they gave it to him after he had lost the ability to walk utalk, and feed himself, and swallow. John bureaucratic nair i narrow mindedness they are not mean. No, they are procedures in place because they are trying to keep people safe, and there is you know, a good time and a place for making sure that aspirin, and tylenol, and zyrtec is not going to kill us, but when you are terminaly ill, your option is certain death or maybe not, the fda needs to think about, how they address those issues. Thank you, to join this argument please tweet or post on my facebook page. Coming up, i put a pink mustache on my minivan. To celebrate choice in tax taxi service. And also evil republicans and evil democrats, they are both evil, because they wont let me make my own choices. I confront a democrarararara hey searching for a great used car . You got it just say show me millions of used cars for sale at the all new carfax. Com where now you can search with the power of carfax®. Just say show me cars with no accidents reported. Boom or how about show me cars with only one owner. Pretty cool plus, were the only site where you get a free carfax® report with every car listed. So find the cars you want. Avoid the ones you dont start your used car search at carfax. Com were the party of choice, which is why i am tired, tired of republicans and others saying to me, i do respect your choice so get an abortion. That was democratic straeplisiststrategist julie, ds almost always talk about being a party of choice, and they talk about abortion, like, they are obsessed, other choices . To sense your child to a school, not to join a union, to buy when you want to buy, democrats are not so big on choice, as they grow government, we have fewer choices here is senator rand paul. It is light bulbs, toilets, cars, you name it. Yoyour freedom of choice is gone for a party who say they are pro choice party this is most antichoice administration weve seen in a lifetime. John yes, as government grows, free choice shrinks. So lets turn democratic Big Government apologist that is me. I am a liberal that votes democratic, where else do i go, i dont speak for the party, i identify more with the los angeles worthe thetheir l word than d word,. John lets start with school choices, why can i not send my kid to school wherever i want. In sweden for example they used to, it did not work Milton Friedman model. Some of those schools private schools are getting out of the school, and kids are getting screwed, and not only do you get to choose what school you go to school chooses whether or not they accept you. John but they dont. There is less choice, less choice for student. John how is your way working out for poor kids. It would work better if we put more resources in public school. John why do i not have a choice of buying gun. Choice is not one size fits all, you want a choice to have a northbound lawye nuclear weao you want to be pro choice on everything. John most everything. I want a Nuclear Weapon on my front lawn. John short of a Nuclear Weapon. You are not pro choice then. John unions then. You are a union supporter, i worked at abc, i had to join a union, aftra, i didnt to join i didnt to join aftra. I am not an artist. You are, your mustache is art. John i didnt to be lumped in with geraldo but i had no choice, new york is a union shop state, once a Union Certified add abc i have to join or i cant work there. You get benefits that union fights for whether you want them or not. John it should be my choice. They have fought for weekends, 8 our days, right without child labor, you benefit from it. John but why do i have to . Because everyone benefits. The word collective, sounds like communism, we live in a society where there is a collective well being, you benefit, as i mentioned for things that Union Members fought for, you pay into it you get the goodies, a pension. John but i didnt want them. I could form an group of correspondents and negotiate for a pension. That would make a union . Your own union. John but that would be voluntary. That is better than forced. You use word force. But. There is Mutual Benefit from all, you benefited froed from wt unions accomplished. John Government Health care. I want government to take over health care, it should be a right for all. John government more government control . On certain things, not saying they should say what to eat, we have to have a health care, education, and a warm radiator, we have resources, we spend all the money on wash with no questions asked. John thank you alan colmes, you are buying warm radiators. I am not running. Good. Republicans are antichoice too, not just aint abortion but antigay marriage, and drugs, and antispree speech in some cases, i will confront a republican next. Is it possible to have too much choice. They have mocha chino, and frappuccino, and capa john i called democrats antichoice, pro choice on abortion but they dont want to let me eat what i choice, hire who i want, buy a gun, not join a union, not buy obamacare. And so on, this suggestions that republicans while antichoice on abortion are pro choice about most other things, but they are not. They have their own things they like to ban. Tony perkins head Family Research accounts, why cant i take any drug i want, this is my body. It your body, john, but consequences are paid for by the Broader Society. We pay for damage caused by cigarettes and alcohol should we ban them. We limit them, we restrict them. We dont ban them, but, what were talking about here is something that has been illegal, that were trying to make legal. In app co alcohol we tried banng that, it did not work because of it alreadyining legal, but thiss drugs, they are being controlled, talking about legalizeing them once that happens, there is no turning the back, consequences will be high for the society as a whole, we will all pay the price. John i am nervous as i age, get sick i will be in great pain, i would like control to inmy own life when i want to end my own life when i want to, why cant i . A difficult question, a lot of people have struggled with the end of life issues, look at actual numbers are. Oregon, assisted suicide has been legal for about two decades now. John and now montana, vermont uand washington. True, but we have history to look at in 20 years, weve seen an increase in just general surside, up about 41 . In oregon compared to other states, and there are cost associated with you that a lot of time people do not succeed, and literally talking millions of dollars a year tax payers pay, as a result of those who try to end their lives, unsuccessfully. And their Health Care Cost relateed to that. John but, that is the aberration. If i am in horrible pain, why isnt it my choice . Again, it is human life, we talk about you talk about devalues human life, your choice, your choice that we make each day have impact on other people. We have decided as a society there are certain choices that impact is such in so significant that it affected Broader Society that is choices we dont allow. John moving on. Why cant i mary a man . Why cant ama rrarc man marrkwr rpbgs a man. Marry a man. Tal [talking over each other] about why lets talk about why government is involved. Marriage is beneficial to the society. The reason that government benefits is because marriage benefits society. John why cant i gamble. I can buy a lot of guns but i cant bet on this weeks football game. If people topping want to gamble that is their business, when the government becomes a port to it, and promotes it, does not police it like you should, i would be opposeed. John can i burn a flag . I would be opposed as one who serveed in u. S. Marine corps, and seen people give their lives, it something we hol holds sacred. John free speech. Out of respect for those who fought for your right to do that you should not do it. I disagree. Should pornography be banned. Against the consequences that come from that. John yes or no. I think current standards is obscenity, should be banned. When luke at wha look at conseqs of that people playing that out. John should a woman be allowed to charge known have sex . A boxer makes money off his body . I do not believe we should decriminalize prostitution, where we see that happening is where the governments to get involved and tax it, they end up making money off of it instead of regulating. John thank you, tony. Perkins. Next. Tkpwhrae to realets go to realr daily life . Have you been in the super market lately. So much choice. Does this enhance our lives . I am overwhelmed. I am overwhelmed. My next guest said no, it check out all these airline seats. Lots of them, right . But when you try to get one by using your travel rewards card miles. Those seats mysteriously vanish. Why . All the flights you want are blacked out. Or they hit you up for some outrageous number of miles. Switch to the venture card from capital one. With venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. No blackout dates. And with every purchase youll earn unlimited double miles. Now were getting somewhere. Whats in your wallet . To build something smarter. Some come here to build something stronger. Others come to build something faster. Something safer. Something greener. Something the whole world can share. People come to boeing to do many different things. But its always about the very thing we do best. John i have 557 channels, with nothing on them, weres if youier now radio fussier now with this. Choice is a good thing but do we have too much choice . Lets go to super market. Tomato bash,al natural, vodka sauce. My small super market offers a lot of spaghetti sauce. Fire roasted, what is that . Is it better than roasted garlic. John it reminds me of a rant by comecomedian denis leary. You can get coffee flavored coffee. John people are arguing today had we have top of choice, a book we have too much choice, a book about choice that argues more is less, that is the subtitle. Barry, more is more. Well, of course more is more. But question is, does more get you more. And what research i sum ar rise suggests is no. That three things happen to people when there are too many choices, one, instead of being liberateed they are paralyzed. John that does happen. You walk out with no spa spaghetti sauce. If you walk out they make bad choices, when there are too many options, and dimensions, chances go up you will make a mistake. And third thing, if you choose well, you end up less sa satisfd is so easy on imagine that one of the other choices was better than the one that you made. John you governmen want governo limit choices. Now, no, people suffer with too much choice, sometimes government should play a role. John i dont see anyone walking out of the store empty hand. They walk out with less stuff than they would have walked out if there were fewer options. John come on, stores north s not stu