Business record but ignored garys. New mexico is a state thats 21 democrat. John who always gary johnson. Thats our whole show tonight. Who is gary johnson . We know hes the libertarian candidate for president. But recent polls show 40 of americans dont even know hes running yet johnson has more governing experience than any of the other candidates. People say hillary is so experienced. But experienced at what . Lying . Raising money . Manipulating people . As a senator the only bills she got passed were renaming things like post offices. As secretary of state she didnt accomplish much that was good. In the white house she was polite and smeared hour husbands critics. Donald trump has at least run things and built successful businesses but often in nasty ways. By contrast gary johnson was governor of new mexico for two years. He was republican, elected twice in a democratic state. He veto the bad bills and held a line on spending. Why dont more people take him seriously . One reason is he has been made to look stupid when fielding questions from the media. What is aleppo. John two weeks later he called this an aleppo moment. House your favorite foreign leader. Any country. Name one foreign leader you respect and look up to, anybody. Shimon peres. I was talking about living. I guess im having an aleppo moment. But im giving you the whole world. I know. John i turn to insight to my favorite magazine, reason. Whats going on here . I wish that gary johnson had answers to those questions. Anybody should be able to pull an Angela Merkel out of their pocket. John why would he admire merkel . He set himself up. If he hadnt had the first aleppo moment he wouldnt have been called out for the second. But hes rarely given an opportunities to explain this broader Foreign Policy platform. John it wasnt like they were talking about syria, they were talking about Something Else and suddenly he said what would you do about aleppo . I would have said what, a leopard . Its coming from nowhere and he gets smeared. Its charitable of you to give him the benefits of the doubt. I think this notion that in this particular cycle the Libertarian Party is the party looking seriousness. Its one i struggle to accept in the face of donald trump. What a smear. Gary johnson has done a lot of good stuff. I covered him after he vetoed the excess of his legislature. When he was governor of new mexico he kept saying no. I vetoed half of the legislative product. John they mist have had it you. They did. John a fellow republican called him ignorant of the legislative process. I said im vetoing this legislation because its way too long and we dont even know what it says. John many of those bills sounded wonderful. Establish a Pilot Program allowing the state to reimburse grandparents who take care of children and welfare families. Pilot program i think is the key word there. John it sounds good. Well test it before we funds it. The agenda was about growing government and spending more money and not making a difference. John but all the spending i vetoed a dog and cat exercise bill. But for my signature it would have been law in new mexico that pet stores exercise their dogs and pets two hours a day three times a week. Then i have to establish the dog and cat exercise police. Where does government end and personal responsibility begin . Reporter its nice to hear that from a politician. I first encountered gary johnson when i was an inherent for reason magazine. I was set out to transscriebt worlds longest interview. Wow, this guy sounds like hes kinds of principled and pretty unusual for a politician who actually got elected in a democratic state. John its impressive who gary johnson who isnt the best speaker got elect the twice in a democratic state. He did it by laying out good ideas. I have children, too. John he touted his use of the veto pen. This pen made gary johnson unpopular with professional politicians. But he doesnt mind. John i wish he were allowed in the president ial debate. Hes promising everything to everyone. One two things is going to happen. Either he doesnt deliver on the promises to everybody that hes making or we are going to have the largest tax increase the state has ever seen. Citizens of new mexico, guard your pocketbooks. Public built versus private built they have the same efficiencies of efficiency and organizaon. We are comparing apples and oranges. John i wish he would say that to hillary when she says government can do it just as well. I like that he talks about tradeoffs and cost benefits which is something thats absent from the debate right now. When you hear them compare thank plans for Maternity Leave and childcare its a question of the details of the plan. They get everything they want, exactly. Johnson as governor he added new mexico added 90,000 jobs when he was governor. Cato called him one of the four governors proposing one of the biggest income tax cuts. All good stuff. You are seeing pushback. The idea that National Review conservative. Never gary johnson. Hes not conservative. Not even all that libertarian. Johnson become governor. The budget grew at 7 a year. He had no control over. I understand people beer at parsing these numbers say the actual growth and spending was much smaller. Lets not get carried away. Gary johnson is not libertarian jesus come to save us all. But the idea that somehow because spending grew during a relatively flush time in a democratically dominated state means hes not a real libertarian. It basically never happens. There was a feature we did in reason magazine where we looked for times when government had been cut anywhere in the world, anywhere in history. The research for that piece was tricky. We did not find much. John yawn on ha johnsons ot said things like this. Liberty means our bodies and mind belong to ourselves. Thats clear. Understandable. But here is now johnson began. I would like everyone to know i have a wonderful family, son eric, daughter, granddaughter, and fiance, best friend kate. Its best to be in love and im in love. John im happy hes in love but i cant believe thats the first thinhe said when he had an opportunity to introduce freedom to people. On one hand i think thats a missed the opportunities. On the other the reputation of libertarians is we are basically robots that say the word liberty over and over. Maybe hes not wrong to talk about the cheesy part of the family. Hes a politician and politicians will always break your heart. Particularly if you are a libertarian. When he was governor he either was a little bit of crony capitalism under this administration. He increased the tax credit for fill makers to come to the state. John he cut the income tax and Capital Gains tax and state tax. He was dr. No. He said thats not okay and i dont approve of that. 750 vetoes shows gary johnson understands the same things at the same time. John i dont think most americans like that. They think they can get free stuff. If you ask them, the Reason Foundation did a pooling project. We asked people, do you think we should increase spending on entitlement x . Then we said do you think we should increase spending if it means we should decrease spending elsewhere or raise taxes . When people understand there is a tradeoff, they think more critically about it. A lot of it comes with the framing of the question. And i like the idea that gary johnson being in the race helped reframe some those questions a little bit in 2016. I bet the legal amount in mayor kay was allowed to bet on gary johnson. Obviously im going to lose that. Are you surprised he didnt do better . I think he did pretty well. Hes polling at 8 somewhere thereabouts. I think the idea he got 1 in the last cycle and we can expect him to do significantly better than that this time around. John how much better . I will put him at 3 . John ill put him at per. Did you know governor johnson used to run a Marijuana Company . Not you chairman of the company is a former judge. A judge who used to lock up users. He will join us next. Upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage. Com business we ship everything you atcan imagine. N, and everything we ship has something in common. Whether its expedited overnight. Or shipped around the globe,. Its handled by od employees who know that delivering freight. Means delivering promises. Od. Helping the world keep promises. This man creates software, to protect this customer, who lives here and flies to hong kong, to visit this company that makes smart phones, used by this Vice President , this little kid, oops, and this obstetrician, who works across the street from this man, who creates software. They all have insurance crafted personally for them. Not just coverage, craftsmanship. Not just insured. Chubb insured. Lets legalize marijuana in this country. John lets legalize more than marijuana. Prohibition, the drug war has done more damage to people than even the drugs do. But gary johnson wont go that far probably because politically its too of a shock to peoples brains. Johnsons opponents say he wants to legalize weed bases pot weed. Johnson says he stopped getting high when he ran for president , and he stopped running his Marijuana Company. It sells marijuanabased health and beauty aids. He turns his company over to others. And the chairman of the company is a former superior court judge from california. You were a former drug warrior. You used to lock people up for using drugs. Now you are running a Marijuana Company . I first met gary johnson when he was the sitting governor of new mexico in 1999 and he came out in favor of regulating the control of marijuana. He got me into the business and im proud to be there. John how did you go from jailing people . You know, i saw in my own courtroom that we were churning lowlevel drug offenders through the system for no good purpose. Controlled substance is the biggest oxymoron in the world today. As soon as you prohibit a substance you give up your control. People who use these substances dont do any harm to anybody. As an adult, it makes as much sense to me for the government to control what i as an adult put into my body as i put into my mind. Its none of their business and gary johnson agrees. John Many Police Chiefs you say love the marijuana laws because it i am prove their statistics . Police are bureaucracies like anyone else and they are aware of their crime solving statistics. With drug crimes its a sophisticated approach. But as soon as you see a drug crime many automatically solved so it increases their solve rate by 10 to 15 . Another one of course is money. We have the federal government literally bribing Police Departments around the country and giving them criminal justice grants but they have to be used for drug who hi business crimes. Both trump and clinton want to keep the drug war going. In california there is something called proposition 64 which would legalize recreational marijuana. Would that be the end of prohibition if your big state california passes it . The odds are predicted 87 california will. As well it should. Its time to regulate, control and tax marijuana. I think personally it will be such a finger in the eye to the federal government that if they lose california, i think it rest of the country would go along with it. Then we basically go back to what our country was found on. A concept of federalism where each state can decide how to best serve its people. Another governor gary johnson attitude and hes absolutely right. John you mention taxing it. Gary johnson says some states have taxed it so much, its still black market. Colorado was a pioneer on this. Im told Legal Marijuana in colorado costs twice what legal does. So the black market is still a problem. They are dealing with edibles which is a serious responsibilities problem. But we are feeling our way along. But anything is better than marijuana prohibition. And we havent talked about the hem industry that is a viable industrial product. John requires been band for no reason and it doesnt get people high. But your candidate gary continues name a famous foreign leader and didnt know what aleppo was. People say his brain is fried from years of using marijuana. Lyndsey graham says gary johnson set back the legalization of marijuana 30 years. Its always easy to second guess. I can tell you gary johnson tells the truth. If he dont know something, he will say. I can tell you he may not be certainly the best politician, maybe not always the best candidate. He will always be the best president of the united states. He has shown that in new mexico. Worked well with people, reelected as a republican in a democratic state. If you elect either of the other two well have more gridlock than you have ever seen before. Gary johnson is the guy. People have that as an option right now. On the ballots in all 50 states. Look into him, hes the real deal. John donald trump and Hillary Clinton are old. They are my age. But gary johnson is younger and healthier. He even climbed mount everest. It was a wonderful day. Guess what guys, i switched to sprint. Sprint . Im hearing good things about the network. All the networks are great now. Were talking within a 1 difference in reliability of each other. And, sprint saves you 50 on most Current National carrier rates. Save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. Wouldnt you love more customers . I would definitely love some new customers. 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Gov the full value of your totaled new car. The guy says, you picked the wrong insurance plan. No, i picked the wrong insurance company. With new car replacement™, well replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. Liberty mutual insurance. Im also an athlete and adventurer. I have climbed the highest mountain on each of the 7 continents. John when he said that i thought who cares. I wants to know how hes going to make our country free, not how many mountains he claid. But maybe it does matter. It shows johnson unlike hillary and most politicians has a life outside politics. Unlike most politicians, gary johnson reamizes the earth doesnt revolve realizes the earth doesnt revolve around government. After i was the governor new mexico, id to get myself super fit. I was into being ultra fit. John instead of make money by becoming a lobbyist. He did iron man races around the world. He once ran a hundred miles through the rocky mountains, hardly stopping. He did the whole 100 miles in 30 hours. Later he went to climb mounts everest. My mothers mantra was reelects gary so he wont go climb mounts everest. John people die climbing everest. Welcome to everest. Welcome to the ice fall. Some of them were so wide you had to lad early into them and leards back out it was incredibly dangerous it was crazy. Reporter the climb took months. 4 00 there the morning, oh, man. Dave and i whipped out the new mexico flag. It was a wonderful, wonderful day. John but being a successful entrepreneur was a main selling points in his first run for governor. I with my wife started a business as a oneman handy man operation. And we have grown that into one of the biggest construction businesses in new mexico. I learned about sharing in the process, showing up on time, keeping your word. Reporter johnson was elected in a state where democrats outnumber republicans 21. So why isnt he doing were in the the president ial election . If people hate donald trump and Hillary Clinton, why dont they turn to johnson . 40 of americans have never heard of johnson. They dont even know that hes running. Also i think hes not doing well because he doesnt answer questions crisply. He stumbles around. I hope thats the reason. Not that people dont like libertarian ideas. How could you not like libertarian ideas once up hear about them. Next well left a conservative and leftist attack our ideas. In my lifetime i cannot think of one single instance where our supporting a regime change has resulted in things being better ive invested a lot in this game. And the returns i get out, are measured in reps. Competition. Sometimes its audibles. Bright lights. Celebrations. Its huddles. Camaraderie. And games played. At Td Ameritrade we believe the best investments are the ones that matter most to you. Every day starts better with a healthy smile. Start yours with Philips Sonicare, the no. 1 choice of dentists. 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