Vice president ial debate. Both came out swinging from trumps mexico comments to Clinton Foundation scandals, mike pence went for the jugular. Pretty much nothing was left off the table. Pretty entertaining, far more than a lot of people thought it would, and there was substance in the way of policy. Watch. The thought of donald trump as commander in chief scares us to death. Look, hes not a polished politician like you and Hillary Clinton. You want a youre hired president in Hillary Clinton or a youre fired president in donald trump. She accepted contributions from foreign governments and foreign donors. In donald trump you have somebody who praises Vladimir Putin all the time. He loss of dictators, he has a personal mt. Rushmore, Vladimir Putin, kim jongun, Moammar Gadhafi and saddam hussein. Hes called mexicans rapists and criminals. This guy says all senators are bad. And many are them are good people, you keep leaving that out of your quote. Trish interesting performance from mike pence, he came away with gravitas in a way that tim kaine did not. Regardless what side of the political aisle you are on, most people come away from this, both sides saying mike pence won that thing handsdown. What will that mean for donald trump . What does it mean for the impact of the election. Editor for town hall, Katie Pavlich and radio show host, former congressman, joe walsh. Mike pence delivered, he did everything that donald trump should have done last monday night, maybe donald trump can get a little coaching there because pence came across as substantive, and he was able to take those jives and those insults that kaine kept throwing his way and turn them on their head and get right back to policy. Isnt that how a debate should be done . Hi, trish, the only thing we know for certain, somewhere tim kaine is interrupting somebody trish, what happened last night when it comes to electing the next president of the united states, pence helped pence, kaine hurt kaine, look, this is on trump, its all on donald trump. Last night will have no impact. Trish wow, no impact at all . Why is that . And youre nodding your head in agement, katie. Why does last night not impact this election in your view. Because you look at number of people watching and nowhere near what we saw with the first debate between Hillary Clinton and donald trump, when you add in Live Streaming on the internet. More than 100 million people, a third of the country. More than a super bowl tuned into the first debate last night, when i checked on facebook, the Vice President ial debate was hardly trending. People are interested in donald trump versus Hillary Clinton for a lot of reasons. Donald trump draws a lot of attention because of his rise to the press president ial nomination. Mike pence, when it comes to being poised and presenting policy positions, but they are politicians which is something that the county is a little sick of at this point. Trish that said, i dont know, kaine came across, im sorry, again, regardless of what aisle you are on, he came across pretty poorly. I was afraid of, that mary ann, i saw him at convention, he was not able to project gravitas, not able to come in the stage. He was not able to get the audience at home, and i warned of this yesterday, what do you think . Is it going to cost her or is she the game in town for anybody voting for Hillary Clinton . Look, first of all, nobody votes for president based on Vice President , and certainly nobody is going to do it on a Vice President ial debate, especially the one last night. You might want to criticize tim kaine on style points but he had one job, to hit trump and to defend Hillary Clinton. He did his job. Mike pence trish okay, i hear you. Hold on. Didnt hit clinton and didnt defend donald trump. Thats the story today. Trish no, no, no, he did, defended him in a way that was polished. No. Trish . Trish hold on. A trump aide said mike pence won the debate and lost donald trump. I disagree with the first part, he was right about the second part. Trish measured and classy way, and you know what, class is good right now, you need it. That was tim kaines problem, no class. None at all, joe, and i think that does not reflect well on Hillary Clinton, you know, hey, i get it, mary ann, theyre voting for hillary, not voting for the vp. No one is really watching anyway. But it says something about the candidate when she gives him the orders of just going out there, attack, attack, attack, in a way that is is very, you know, i dont know quite the word for it, joe, but its not a positive image. No, i agree, trish. Kaine was offputting, but i agree with mary ann and katie. To katies point, not a lot of people watched last night, but tim kaine had a job last night and that was to force pence to defend trump, and i dont think he did, and ive already seen a commercial on one of the stations about putin and kaine trying to get pence to say, do you agree with trump that putin is a strong leader . That commercial is already up. Though kaine was offputting, hes going to might have clinton ticket with material. Trish looking ahead. Absolutely right. Trish looking ahead to this weekend. Katie, what is it that trump needs do to get back on his feet . Its caught them on the polls and a lot of his supporters are people that are on the margin, i dont know about this guy, he didnt deliver as i thought he would have. Whats he going to do . The first thing he needs to do is stay off twitter. They have lockboxes with timers and i think Kellyanne Conway would be good to buy him one of those to keep his phone away when his campaign isnt around. The second thing in terms of the debate. Its very clear. Last time he didnt prepare, not just on substance but to hit back on hk being when there were perfect openings to attack her on her own record, cybersecurity, intelligence gathering, hacking, a perfect opportunity to bring up one of the issues shes having trouble with, with voters is trust, based on email scandal which is ongoing which we learn more about every single day. Preparing and being ready to drive the truck full of evidence into the gaps left by the moderator or Hillary Clinton when the opportunities present themselves and not missing those in the debate sunday as he did during the first debate. Trish see whether or not he can do it. Thank you so much, mary ann, katie and joe. As i said before, tim kaine, i dont think this was his best hour, watch. Ronald reagan said something really interesting about Nuclear Proliferation in the 1980s. Said he the problem with Nuclear Proliferation is that some fool or maniac could trigger a catastrophic event, i think thats who governor pences running mate is. Come on, senator, senator, that was beneath you and Hillary Clinton, thats pretty low. Trish my next guest knows tim kaine pretty well. He used to work for him. Now he is a donald trump supporter and hes asking what happened to the tim kane i used to know . Here he is to explain. Christian richers. People are talking all about you all over the internet, you were commenting how this was a less than stellar perform france performance from your boss and this is not the guy you used to know. What do you mean by that . Tim kaine is one of the finest Public Servants i have known, a great guys, you would refer to him as the nice guy, the dad next door, they did him a disservice by making him into attack dog. Thats not his nature. Hes not used to that kooint kind of thing and i think it showed. Trish lets watch a clip. I want the viewers to see this. Weve put together all the times he was interrupting mike pence. Here you go. Hes employed tens of thousands of people in this country. And paid few taxes and lost a billion dollars a year. The newly emboldened aggression of russia whether it was in ukraine or not. You guys love russia. She had a Clinton Foundation accepting contributions from foreign governments. You are Donald Trumps apprentice. Hillary clinton expanding the or instead of you violating the constitution. We cant know for certain who the people are coming from syria. Yes, we can. If we dont know, we dont let them in. Hes still on my time. Trish you say hes better than that. You think the Clinton Campaign put him up to that bullying . I think this is political consultant malpractice at its worst. It looks like they locked him in a room and, you know, in a cage for a week. Trish look, it worked with trump, right . Maybe they think its going to work with mike pence too, but mike pence is a politician, hes not going to fall for it quite as easily, but might have figured it was a tactic that worked. Well, i think its something the clintons have been doing for a long time. Theyve always tried to do a hatchet job on everybody they have gone up against. Probably going to do one over me. Trish style as he is continually doing what he did. You are a trump supporter yet you used to work for tim kaine. Tell me about why you switched sides . Tim kaine isnt running for president. She is. And were working with in five different states targeting specific counties. Pennsylvania, ohio, virginia, North Carolina and florida, parts of those states, and we are going to make the difference in the election. We have over 850,000 names just in 10 counties in pennsylvania, democrats and independents that were going after to turn out. And it will make the difference in the election. The trumpocrats, after this interview, im leaving to go to pittsburgh and distribute 10,000 signs in the cleveland to pittsburgh corridor. Trish do you think those people will all be out there voting . Thats the key for you guys. You got to motivate the base and get them out there in a lot of swing states. Weve had a couple hundred thousand in that area that switched registration during the primaries to vote for donald trump. And there are a lot of people who have lost jobs and the clintons are responsible for those job losses. Trish christian, do you think the polls are wrong, then . Theyve been all over the place. Theyre all over the place, nobody knows exactly whats going to happen. I think they are underrepresenting some in the intensity levels. I think youre going to have lower minority turnout than you did with barack obama, i think youre going to have lower young people turnout. I think the working class folks, i think, white voters are going to turn out in much larger numbers than they did before. Trish what about women . That still going to be a challenge for him . I think that will be a challenge, but i mean Hillary Clinton has her challenges also. Trish all right, thank you, christian. Good to have you here. Thank you, so much. Trish move on. Donald trumps next big chance to gain ground with voters is on sunday night at the big debate. What does he need to dmoef that needle . 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Great to be with you, trish. Trish the vp debate matter . Other than joe biden and sarah palin which was the event . Talk about that one. Three times as many people watched joe biden and sarah palin as watched last night. More people watched that debate than the president ial debate that year, and it didnt move the polls a single point. Your entire life, there is not a Vice President who carried a state or made a significant difference in a campaign. Trish right, youre not voting for the vp, youre voting for the candidate. This year, you have the candidates that suck all of the oxygen out of the room. Theyre the stars. Thats right. The stars and unpopular stars, theyre the kids you love to hate. Most viewed unfavorably by a majority of people. Trish how would you describe them, then . Is it sort of donald trump is the toughy on the playground and hillary the bully, the knowitall, the Something Like that. There is something that each side trish and her . The little know it all in the kid who is sitting in front raising their hand. And, you know, actually they are both bright people. Their caricatures are what theyre seeing but they have a lot of baggage, nobody is excited about the candidates. Hillary supporters love her and they think donald trump is the scariest thing theyve seen. There are Trump Supporters who think hillary is pure evil. The excitement is the undecideds, they dont like either one of them. The fact they dont like either one of them. Look at recent poll from fox news, hes down about five points but shows they think before that he was down three, it wasnt a huge change. He lost a little bit of ground. 85 or so of americans know who theyre going to vote for in 2020, there is the partisan divide. Small group of undecides. Have you people, it was interesting in the fox data, Hillary Clintons lead grew more in the headtohead matchup than in a fourway race. In a fourway race, there were people saying im not sold, im going stay with gary johnson. There is a little reluctance all around. Trish johnsonstein may hurt her. What does donald trump need to do sunday night to help himself out of this, you know, polling hole he got himself into this week . What he needs to do first and foremost is look like hes prepared. And i dont mean me has to memorize talking points or briefing books but given thought to a strategy into how he wants to present himself, and no matter what the moderators say, no matter what Hillary Clinton tries to bait him into. He needs to get a feel of his own issues into the discussion. He needs to talk about corruption, which will be emails and Clinton Foundation. You know, last time when they met, Hillary Clinton gave this incredible answer about what is he hiding . I was thinking shes walking into a trap. Hes going to say what is she hiding and use her entire riff about the 33,000 emails. He needs to focus on the corruption, then talk about an issue or two of his, immigration or trade, perhaps law and order. He needs to get them into the debate even if the moderators dont want to, and this one he did a little bit of the last time. He needs to convey in every way possible that the status quo is not working and Hillary Clinton the status quo. I, donald trump, you may not like me but at least im change. He needs to put the debate about her. Trish americans want change. The other issues important to americans, economy. Always important. Trish and national security. National security. Trish two areas he consistently continues to poll better on her given his business background. He does, that and the law and order thing has a tendency to surprise people. One thing People Like Us never get to talk about, whats going to happen in the real world in the next five weeks, not just the debate stage. When there are events like charlotte a few weeks ago or some other things weve seen, that can shake up the race more than a debate and has to do with the way candidates respond to it. Trish very interesting, scott, good to have you here. Tim kaine isnt the only participant under fire for constantly interrupting. The debate moderator, an internet reporter at cbs news is getting blasted for cutting off the candidates. Howie kurtz, your favorite media critic and mine is here with his take. You can run an errand. music playing push real good. Nnouncer vo or you can take a joyride. Bye bye, errands, we sing out loud here. Siriusxm. Road happy. announcer vo you can sit in traffic. Or you can crack up. man on radio but if it isnt refreshing. announcer vo sorry traffic, we laugh til it hurts. We are moving on now. Governor, governor. Gentleman please. Please. That was losing control of the debate there last night. At some time she was just completely ignored. I dont know maybe