Coverage throughout the entire hour, throughout the entire afternoon and, of course, were going to bring you any breaking news from the floor. But first, we do want to bring in peter barnes for the latest on where things stand at this hour. Peter . Reporter thats right, cheryl. Were about halfway through the four hours of debate on the bill. That debate started just a couple hours ago, the house first got through a critical procedural step earlier today, approving the rules of debate along party lines. Six republicans defected on that and voted with the democrats to disapprove it which would have killed consideration of the bill itself at that time. So right now were watching one by one as we hear from members among the moderates, the socalled Freedom Caucus, the conservatives, to get a handle on how many votes the president and Republican Leaders have. Back of the napkin it look like they can lose maybe ten of these republicans. And if they do, that would sink the bill. Ask just an informal and just an informal count of people coming out today and announcing where they stand, it looks like at least ten or more republicans will vote no. So this bill is not, it isnt looking good for the legislation at this hour, cheryl. Cheryl all right, peter, thank you very much for that update, especially on the numbers which are crucial right now. Theyve got to get to 216, and maybe they dont have it. Peter, thank you for that. I want to bring in for more reaction Fox News Contributor karl rove. Carl, what do you think karl, what do you think . Well, the actual numbers 22 if you take the number of sitting republicans, if they lose 22, theyre at 215, and they cant get it done. So its going to be, you know or or its a gamble. You dont like to call a vote unless you know that youve got the votes, but President Trump last night said, you know what . Im finished negotiating. Ive made changes to the Freedom Caucus, and weve agreed to your demand, and now you come back with more, were done, were going to go to a vote. So high stakes poker. Cheryl karl, you spent years in the white house with president bush. Did trump make the right move last night . Well, you know, its hard to say. You have to give him, first of all, hes a dealmaker and, second of all, he was actually doing the negotiation. Remember what happened is the Freedom Caucus is sort of running around, not being clear on what they want to do. They seemingly get settled on we want language that removes whats called essential benefits, there are a list of ten things every insurance policy has to have. It drives up the cost of insurance, economists say, by between 317 . So the administration said, fine, well get rid of the essential benefits language, well have language that takes it out. And the Freedom Caucus said, okay, now that we got that, we want you to do two more things, we want you to remove the limit remove the ability of Insurance Companyings to Insurance Companies to, theyre required to have no limits on how much coverage they give you. If you get a really serious or limit, theres no, quote, lifetime limit. And then they said we want you to get rid of the requirement that people cannot be denied coverage for preexisting conditions. Well, those arent at the center of the Affordable Care act. Theyre not the 700 billion worth of exchanges, theyre not the hundreds of billions of medicare expansion, the trillion dollars worth of expansion. Theyre two very popular things that, frankly, Insurance Companies have come to deal with, two very popular provisions, so i think the president was right to say, you know what . You keep moving the goalpost. Hard to get you to sit down and agree, to suggest what you wanted. Now that weve agreed to what you want, you come up with more. Were going to vote. And if it passes, its going to be that weird chemistry that happens in the republican caucus. Several members have mentioned to me that there was anincrediba freshman member from florida named brian mast. Hes a double amputee war veteran. And he said, you know, you go into combat, and its never perfect, and you never get everything you want. And it was, apparently, an inspiring talk. Well see if it has an impact. Cheryl you talked so much about the Freedom Caucus and the power they seemed to have been wielding, at least until last night. They asked for, of course, like you said, the removal of the ten essential benefits, leave that to the states, and then they got another 15 billion, again, money to go to the states. The Freedom Caucus, did they make the wrong move last night, and if they did and they realize the stack of cards is now against them, do they take the risk to their constituents and vote yes today . Is that a possibility . Or are they that hard line . You know them better than i do, karl. Well, it is possible that some of them will say, you know what . We made the bill better, guest go vote for it. It was really weird, apparently last night they not only lifetime limits and preexisting conditions, but there were some members who said weve got to get rid of that provisioning that allows you to keep your kids on until theyre 26 years old. A, Insurance Companies like it, b, its very popular, c, its good for families, and why that suddenly became an issue of controversy for them is beyond me. But all along ive been mystified. One of the leaders was saying, you know what . What i dont like about this bill is that it includes a tax. When you finally explained what it was, it was that under the republican bill they said were going to keep the provision that says you cant be denied insurance, coverage Insurance Coverage for a preexisting condition, but were killing the individual mandate, and were killing the employer mandate, but what were going to say is if youre not, if you dont have, quote, continuous to Insurance Coverage and you show up and say im ill and i need Insurance Coverage now, the insurer can charge you up to 30 more for that coverage. And jim jordan of ohio was saying im against that, that you shouldnt penalize people who dont have Insurance Coverage. Well, okay, get rid of safe driver discounts then, because its unfair to the unsafe drivers. Get rid of that discount you get on your Homeowners Insurance because youve got a fire alarm or Smoke Detector in your house because its unfair to people who dont. It was mindboggling. Cheryl i know, its mind blowing to the American People as well who have given up on all of this, and youve given such great detail and a really clear picture, so thank you for that. I do want to ask you broader scale, broader picture, what about tax reform . If the Freedom Caucus doubled down so hard on health care, what about tax reform . Thats what the markets care about. Right now were looking at a dow and investors not happy with what theyre seeing out of washington. We were on the trump rally. Weve maybe pulled off of that train if tax reform doesnt happen soon. Yeah. Big problem because our markets have risen in part because the expectation is the republicans will get tax reform done, therell be a significant Corporate Tax cut. So these pe ratios that the market has at a relatively historically high would suddenly unsustainable. So if the republicans look, if the republicans dont get this done in the house, its going to damage the, theres going to be discord inside the Republican Party that may bode badly for tax reform. And then the mindset of some in the house, its got to be my way or the highway. If its not exactly perfect the way that i want it to be, im voting with nancy pelosi, that could be drawn into the tax reform debate as well. Cheryl all right. Well, thats not what investors want to hear. Karl rove, thank you very much. Really appreciate having you here, sir. You bet. Cheryl right now theres so much going on in washington, guys. Members of the house are, of course, debating the gops obamacare replacement bill following days of intense negotiation, compromise back and forth, name calling, Party Leaders working down to the wire, making last minute changes to try to persuade republican holdouts to the stand behind this legislation. But what are some of these changes, and how are they going to impact the lives of Everyday Americans . Gerri willis has the details on that. Gerri, you more than anyone else i know knows the ins and outs of this bill. How are you feeling right now . Theres not a lot of optimism, and what was so funny about watching sean spicer in his Daily Briefing with the press was that he was just begging them to be more optimistic, but even he sees there are problems ahead. I want you to hear what sean shieser had to say. Spicer had to say. The question is can we get to 216. But make no mistake about it, i mean, the president made it clear last night, this is it. You know, you have an opportunity to do what youve told the American People, the commitment that we, the party, have made. But this is your chance to do what weve done. Weve listened, weve incorporated, weve updated in every way possible. I dont think when you look at legislative efforts, i think the president has given it his all. Weve gone as far as were going to go, thats what sean spicer had to say. And i talked to an expert on this kind of maneuvering who told me they thought it was a very brave kind of stake to make here to say, well, were just going to have this vote anyway. They said win, and youre the man. Lose, and you start a new battle, tax reform. And i just want to tell you, cheryl, i spoke with one of my sources whos an expert on how this legislation proceeds, he says its not easy to get tax reform up because you need a reconciliation bill, he says, to do tax reform. And that requires what a budget resolution, that will be as debatable, as up in the air as a what weve had with obamacare here. But the get back to your original question about changes in this bill, and karl rove addressed some of this. First of all, weve got the expansion of surtax. Remember, that was originally a part of obamacare. Thats ninetenths of 1 , 0. 9 income tax on people earning 200,000 as singles, or 250,000 as joint filers. That goes on for six years under the last iteration of this bill. It is not indexed for inflation, its going to take in more and more people. And then you mentioned essential health benefits. Thats now going to be up to the states. Do they want to continue them . Which of those do they want to continue . Mental, drug, newborn, maternity, some 15 billion at stake there that theyve add back into this bill. So its really been a moving item here, really up in the air whats going to be in this bill. A couple of new things to add, but ive got to tell you, this is a tough sell right now, a tough sell. Cheryl it jeopardizes so many other things in the republican agenda, and then the semantics of do we have a gop, senate, house and president that cannot agree and what does that mean for so many other things that were waiting on. Gerri willis, thank you very much. Most welcome. Cheryl well, republicans, again there you go, live pictures. Thats Elijiah Cummings from maryland. Theyre debating the Health Care Bill right now as a it stands. Should it be passed he just said, lets not give up well, does the bill give too many concessions to moderate republicans, or maybe not enough . If this bill goes down in flames, is health care dead in the water . Were going to debate that. Well be right back. Mr. Speaker, we must do better. Vote no on this bill. Donald trump everybodys got to be covered. I am going to take care of everybody. Everybodys going to be taken care of much better than theyre taken care of now. Announcer 20 million americans gained Health Coverage under the Affordable Care act. Including millions of our most vulnerable citizens children, the disabled and the elderly. Now, under some plans in congress, millions of these americans could lose that Health Coverage. 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I want to bring in evan siegfried, the author of gop gps, he served as Health Care Policy director on the Romney Campaign and, evan, first, the big question here is if they dont have the votes, President Trump said last night this is it, hes done, were moving on. Do we have the votes . I think were about two votes either way at this point. Cheryl that close, you think . Its very close. By my informal whip count, ive got 27 republicans voting no and about 30 on the fence, and thats not where you want to be with less than an hour until a vote on this bill. Its the conservative republicans, the Freedom Caucus. They want full repeal. They dont like this. Youre trading one mandate9 for another. And at the same time, youve got more moderate republicans who are saying, well, you know, im not a big fan of shifting the cost to the states and absolving the government of the problem and saying its all on your back. Cheryl but compromise at the end of the day, i mean, even President Trump ended up compromising when it came to interstate competition between Insurance Companies. That seems to be coming, you know, later in the last version of this bill that weve all read. But it seems to be that this is a shortterm fix, and then theres a longerterm plan. Isnt that better than not addressing the issues with obamacare that would, indeed, eventually implode the system . I think were at a point where the choice is relatively binary. Its the status quo in obamacare versus this vehicle which, look, no one says is perfect. I certainly think there are things that could improved, but there are things that make it worthwhile to support. The reform, for example, of the Medicaid Program which will, if left unchecked, bankrupt the federal government and many states with it. So the notion that were having fundamental reform of that, that were trying to get some reform of the Insurance Markets not as much as everyone would like on the conservative side of the aisle but i think there are good steps in this bill forward. And frankly, the alternative is to allow obamacare and the status quo to continue and that, i think, is unacceptable. Cheryl lets look at this, kind of go true and give our through and give our viewers because unless you follow the exact tick tock, youre not exactly sure what this bill is anymore if you look at it. As it stands right now whats being debated, it eliminates obamacare fines and subsidies, many applauding that, a 30 penalty for lapsed coverage i want to get your take on that one, evan and tax credits based on age, in the income. A sliding scale, if you will. But the 30 penalty, some say that is too harsh, evan. It is a little harsh. I think that the penalty really isnt that enforceable because its a 30 penalty paid to the Insurance Companies themselves, not to the government. And i i think that there is no incentive. If you say im not going to have coverage, theres no incentive to really go and get coverage because youre going to be paying more as a result of that. I think there are other things. Lonnie described this as far from perfect, and thats true, but its a big Dumpster Fire of a bill because it was not thought out, it didnt include the president s key signatures that he campaigned on such as eliminating state lines cheryl yeah. Thats something i feel like ive been saying for years. In addition, theres the hippocratic oath which says do no harm. This bill harms many of the people President Trump is trying to help such as in appalachia where theres an opioid epidemic. Cheryl they put that back in, that 15 billion they agreed to last night that still allows for the Insurance Companies to impose caps on coverage. And if you have a drug addiction, which the nih list z z lists as a mental illness, they can pull the plug on that. That doesnt help at all. Cheryl i dont know, lonnie, what do you make of the opioid issue . That certainly came into play, because a lot of these congressmen said i cannot go back to my home district and say that opioid addiction funding is gone. And that made them a no. What