The willis report where consumers are our business starts right now. Well there is a little less laughter in the world tonight. Comedy legend joan rivers has died. The funny lady was a trail is blazer for female comediennes, she poked most fun at herself. At age 81 joan rivers went into cardiac arrest last week during an outpatient proper and went on lifesupport. What went wrong . We have a doctor from the beth israel medical center. Doctor, great to have you here with us. I want to start by just asking, how common is it for a patient to have a heart attack during a procedure at one of these Outpatient Clinics . How often does that happen . It does not happen very often. Usually in these Outpatient Clinics doctors are fully prepared to handle eventualities like cardiac arrest. It is ctually a very rare event. Usually the patient stops breathing because of a drug, because they have a medical event like a stroke, or they actually have a heart attack due to the stress of the proper. Liz joan rivers had a heart attack. Do they have defibrillators on hand in these situations . Theyre supposed to have defibrillators. Generally when we have a proper room, in any kind of an outpatient facility such as Endoscopy Center or Surgery Center we have what is called a crash cart. The crash cart is exactly that. It is filled with medicines to resuscitate the heart. That is to bring the heart rythym back, bring Blood Pressure back and to shock the patient back into a normal rythym. If they go into irregular heartbeat what is called shockable. We do it all the time, we do it every day in the hospital and we do it rarely in these outpatient centers. Liz you mentioned endoscopy, that means the doctor can look inside of you. Joan was at an institution called the yorkville Endoscopy Center on Upper East Side here in new york city. It is under investigation now. And i have to ask you, would sheave been better off at a fullblown hospital having this proper done . Well that is very good question. I dont know what joans medical history is like, if she had any hit of risk factors, propensity for stroke like high Blood Pressure or difficulties with breathing she would have been much better as a hospital. But as i said, most of these Endoscopy Centers are pretty sophisticated and have these kind of resuscitative measures available. These are called crash carts. These crash carts also mandate that nurses, technicians and doctors who are in these Endoscopy Centers no advanced cardiac lifesupport. We call that acls. And these procedures are designed for such emergencies, to resuscitate and save the patients life. I presume this is what happened. Liz well, she had at least one risk factor. The woman was 81. Isnt age an issue here . Age is a major issue. We do procedures these day on lot older people. The older population tend to do pretty well. They have to be medically cleared. We have to look at their cardiac or heart function, how good their brains are. What other kind of risk factors she might have like diabetes, et cetera. All of those things play a major role as risk factors for this kind of tragedy. I mentioned before that the institution she was at is under investigation by the new York Health Department but everybody considers it routine. However, when you look at number of these facilities that has grown over the last 20 or so years it is dramatic. There are some 5200 right now. That is almost as many hospitals as there there. Are. Im curious people make choices every single day, will i go to the hospital or outpatient facility, which one am i going to go to. What is your best advice for people out there . When do you go to the hospital, when do you go to an outpatient facility . Well, there is very little difference today. The government and other health care providing Insurance Companies prefer that the patients go to Outpatient Facilities. Liz because theyre cheaper, right . Not necessarily the hospital. But whhn youre in the hospital, there are a number of Safety Measures that are taken to prevent this kind of an occurrence. Most Outpatient Facilities like Surgery Centers or endoscopy suites are very, very wellequipped as hospitals are to handle these kind of emergencies. 23 million surgeries in those Outpatient Clinics a recent year. It is interesting to see how this industry is changing over time. Doctor, thank you so much for being with tonight. Thank you for having me. Its a pleasure. Liz now i started the segment by saying there is a little less laughter in the world tonight because of passing of joan rivers but as her water melissa said the comediennes greatest joy was to make people laugh. We thought we would share a little of the laughter now. You think youre any older . I feel great. You know why i feel older . I went to by sexy underwear and automatically gift wrapped it. [laughing] obvious for your aunt or something. When you buy a bikini. Victims is falling and youre wearing a bikini and top gets, oh. [laughter] liz everybodys got a favorite joan quote. Mines this. She said im no cook, when i want lemon chicken i spray it with pledge much. Pretty good. Well, we are completely changing gears now all they we continue to talk about food. We turn to our nations cafeterias where food fights are taking it to a whole new level. Students slamming Michelle ObamasHealthy School lunchee. Our next guest helped lead the push in his school to table the program all together. Rick is the board president of muskego norway schools in wisconsin ditched the program back in july. So tell us why did you end this program . Well, the new rules or regulations for the food quality criteria start ad couple years ago and we had been complaining about the hundredp programs two years ago when it started. This coming july is july 1st, those new regulations were getting much more onerous, to the point where we projected about a 50,000 loss in our food program because we knew that the kids wouldnt be buying the program, the lunches anymore. And we decided, took a look at it, and decided we were better off telling feds keep the money. Well provide free and reduced lunch to our student population that need that on their own. But well provide what we deem a healthy lunch, not what washington deems. Liz unbelievable. The thing i didnt understand about the whole program, you guys have to be selfsustaining. If the kids are not buying lunches youre not making money. It is hurting the entire School District. So tell me how much money are you losing . What is your financial situation now . Because you have changed the whole program back to what it was. Yeah, we were projecting a 50,000 loss this year if we stayed in the program. By switching program back to what we had for a Healthy Lunch Program prior to new regulations were purchasing at least, right 10,000 surplus for this coming school year. Liz wow. So its a 60,000 swing. And like you said, yes, our lunch programs, it is not part of our, not part of our education budget. So that program has to be selfsustaining. There is no options, if you, we have fund balance in there but, it is just like any other business. If youre not doing things that at least breaking even, you got to make changes. Thats what we decided to do. Liz so here es a what got on School Lunch Menu now. Forget the. Turkey tacos, black bean and corn salad. Petite bananas. Cactus juice coolers. Sound pretty yummy. I want to share with some of our viewers some of the tweets that, contained hashtag, hashtag thanks michelle obama. This is going viral. See some of this stuff. It is hilarious. Picture of one of these lunches. This is all theyre feeding athletes now, thanks. And thanks, michelle obama, for the mystery meat in school lunches. These are nicer ones. Ive seen some really raunchy ones. I never seen a taco like this says one young lady. I have to tell you, rick, i look at this i feel their pain. Nothing like, feeling like youre not getting enough to eat. You say your kids are in the School District and were going home hungry. What happened . Well, ive got a son that is 16 years old and very active and in athletics. Him and his friend would, when they finish lunch, because of the portion guidelines, calorie counts, how many calories could be in portion, they would leave hungry. And these regulations are ridiculous. They are telling me that a 14yearold freshman girl has to consume the same amount of calories as an 18yearold football player. Liz unbelievable. This one size fits all is ridiculous. If they were regulating shoe size i think everyone would have to wear size nine 1 2, fit or not. It is government, some bureaucrat 800 miles away not elected by anybody, telling a local schools what we should be feeding our children. Those are decision best made at local level. This is not something that should be coming out of washington, with any Strings Attached to it at all. We had enough of it. Liz obviously you did because you opted out. Too many strings, too many bureaucrats. Rick, thanks for coming on the show tonight. Sure, thanks for having me. Liz now we want to know what you think. Heres our question tonight. What would you rather eat, Grilled Cheese, and maybe a caller salad . Kale salad. Vote on gerriwillis. Com. Vote on the righthand side of the screen. I will share results at the end of tonight show. Facebook or meet 2003 at gerri willis if the bn or send me an email, gooto the website, gerriwillis. Com. At the government hour iad twee. Next the latest on the investigation into a massive date breach at nations number one Home Improvement store. 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White house saying that there is no evidence that coosumer data has been used or stolen. Is this surprising to you . You know, it is not surprising anymore whether it is dotgov or dotcom websites and servers being attacked by cyber criminals. They have wanted to target healthcare. Gov. It has been in their laser sites. Im not surprised they found an issue. Liz were talking about. What we do know there are stolen credit card numbers out in what it called the dark web. Where some of the bloggers writing about this topic getting information. What is the dark web and why are credit card numbers there . You asked a great question about the dark web. Think about a digital Shopping Mall for evildoers. So they are selling your identities, your cards, photos, videos. They even sell malware to attack Companies Like home depot and target. Really evil marketplace, ebay, pay ball, amazon all wrapped up for evildoers where they buy and trade and sell very quickly, very cheaply and make big money. Gerri big money on us. The target breach, which we talked talked about last december and covered sometime. This could be bigger. The home depot breach could be even bigger. How much would my credit card information do you go for you think . What is the selling price . Well the dark web they have to act quickly. So the first day they steal their credit card, gerri, if theyre able to append your specific zip code and purchasing habits and Little Information about you that first day is worth 120, to 150. The older that data gets or less data they have about your credit card or debit card, the cheaper it gets t could drop to 50. They will bundle it up with a bunch cards for about a buck. Gerri wow that is big range in prices no doubt about it. When we talked about this originally, you made tte observation that is it is very possible that these hackers are from russia and they may be operating at the behest of the state . Do you still believe that . And it seems like everybody is getting hit right now. Is this the new thing, russia coming after us through our websites . You know, it is an interesting way to fund an economy, isnt it . This has some of the telltale signs of Eastern European or russiansponsored, whether they were trained by those governments and acting on their own as cyber criminal groups or potentially funded by then, obviously well be learning more in the days to come with the forensics but it has the telltale signs, the dark web presence. How they did it. The fact they were in there months at a time, that all sort of sound like a lot it could be russians or Eastern Europeans. Gerri it is that month at a time thing that is driving me crazy. Six months, april, was the beginning of this breach, with home depot. Here is what i doesnt get. Why are we just learning about this now . Why does it take so long for the companies that should are our best interests at heart, were their customers, to find out about these breaches . People would be shocked to know, when it comes to financial data, credit cards, bank accounts, sometimes it is average of six months before anybody knows the bad guys are in the network. And this tells for us again as a consumer, you unfortunately have to take matters into your own hands. We need a Neighborhood Watch program and that is the store, the banks, Law Enforcement but especially you the consumer being very vigilant and aware about what is hitting your credit card and sounding alarm if something doesnt sound right. Gerri theresa, thank you. Thanks for having me. And later in the show, good news, no kidding, surrounding one of the countrys most popular sources of chicken. Next, will tomorrow bring good news . Well preview the jobs report and look whether the data is really matching reality. Weve never sold a house before. agent ill walk you guys through every step. There are a lot of buyers for a house like yours. husband thats good to know. Were changing the way we do business, with startup ny. Weve created tax free zones throughout the state. And startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. Thankso startup ny, businesses can orate tax free for 10 years. No property tax. No business tax. And no sales tax. Which means more growth for your business, and more jobs. s not just business as usual. See how new york can help your business grow, at startup. Ny. Gov gerri new employment numbers out today hinting what we can expect for tomorrows Big Government jobs report. Payroll Processing Firm adp reported private Companies Added 204,000 jobs last month, see at . At the lest figeince march. Here with what we can expect in tomorrows report, heritage chief economist steve moore. Welcome to the show. Great to be with you. Gerri what do you make of the adp report and what does it tell us about tomorrow . Weve been in this range, gerri, for about six months now where were getting 200,000 jobs a month, maybe a little bit more. Thats a decent number, gerri, but it is not good enough. It is just not good enough to really bring the jobs back that were lost during this recession much and so we should be at 300, 400, 500,000 jobs a month. We have, i told this before, we had one month in 1980 as, under reagan, had a million jobs one month. Ik uever hadt b bre accurate, pretty good predicttor. Well get another 200,000 jobs. Ployment som r ericl nt feeot better aboutt. Gerri walk through the technical numbers which are, ah. Here is what were expecting. Hang on. Hang on. Here is what were expecting. Job creation, consensus view of economists, 225,000. Okay. Gerri Unemployment Rate 6. 1 which ticks down from 6. 2. You say this is the lowest recovery since world war ii. Were not getting kind of employment we want to see and nds wag g w wa right as you know gerri you get around. When i talk to real people outside of washington and new york about the economy, if you mention to them that the Unemployment Rate is 6. 1 they laugh in your face. No one believes that number because as you know the real Unemployment Rate in this country is probably about double that because the Labor Force Participation is down. So many people dropped out of the workforce. There are millions of people want a fulltime job, gerri. Can not find it. We consider, we classify them as employed but if youre only, working 25 or 20 hours a week, good luck feeding your family and paying your bills. Gerri right, exactly. A lot of talk today about raising the minimum wage. Barack obama made that priority. Yet, when i look at this, steve, i see only 2. 8 of workers earn minimum wage. It is really an issue at the margins of society. What we really need, i believe, you tell me, jobs. We need jobs. Right. Look, when the unemployment problem is as bad as it is today, especially for young people, i was looking at the teen Unemployment Rate right now. It is about 20 , gerri. And weve had a record low participation of teens in the workforce. What weve done