You are somebody who worked with him before. Yeah you know how deeply involved he was in the obamacare legislation. Has this guy always taking swings at the intellect of American People . No, this is a new aspect of johns personality. I havent seen this before. He was deeply involved in the Massachusetts Health care reform and it was that expertise that the white house and administration sought out. And he had a consulting contract that came through hhs. He worked extensively with the administration and, quite frankly, gerri, that was his first brush with controversy. I testified with john in front of the Senate Health committee and he never revealed to anyone he was being paid by administration of the time. He was always portrayed as outside expert giving arms length analysis and it just wasnt true. Gerri shocking frankly. Here you have academic on the payroll. Puts himself out there as expert. In fact he is paid spokesman. Like running an advertisement. If we did that we would be in big trouble but we dont do it. Here is the administration, hiring somebody to say nice things about obamacare, the architect and they have him on the payroll at the same time. It seems like a conflict of interest to me . It is a flatout conflict of interest. You know, whatever the legalities might be i dont know but you should not be testifying as an outside expert when youre being paid by the administration at the same time. He is a defacto administration official. That is how he should have been advertised. Gerri as much fun as he made of the intellect of American People i have to question his. This to me just seems not bright, not the sharpest tool in the shed would do this. But, having said that, now, i want to talk about nancy pelosi. She has made some interesting comments today. She talked about how she doesnt know jonathan gruber. He wasnt involved in writing obamacare. Listen to nancy pelosi talk about jonathan gruber. I dont know who he is. He didnt help write our bill. I dont know if you have seen jonathan gruber, mits analysis of the, what the comparison is to the status quo versus what will happen in our bill. So, just to make sure you understand what is going on here, the first comment was from this week. The second comment was from 2009. Oh, yes she does know jonathan gruber, clearly, how is it possible this woman, this is an outright lie. This is on par you can keep your doctor and your prices are not going to go up. This is really going to hurt the administration. It is going to hurt nancy pelosi because the one thing that americans focus on when they hear about the Affordable Care act is, they lied to me to get it through. In the polling we looked at and focus groups i heard of, that is what people remember. They heard if you like your plan you get to keep it. It wasnt true. Now we have another round of, you know, mit professor bragging about the deceiving the American People and the speaker of the house at the time passed saying we dont even know who this guy is even though citing him every day to support the bill. Gerri ridiculous and shows mendacity going on here, outright lying. People say, well, american the American People should get educated about this we tried, we tried to understand it was going on. It was impenetrable. It was impossible to understand. Remember you had to read it to know what was in it, gerri, remember . Gerri i remember pelosis comments well. I have to get you though it is round two, ding, ding, ding, obamacare, year two, this weekend saturday, you can buy obamacare coverage if you want. How is that going to go . And you know, the administration itself is kind of dialing back its expectations how many people are going to sign up . Sure. They have very much tried to you know, low ball the enrollments, make sure that everything looks like a success. They cant have a fiasco like last year. Well see. Obviously the site is better. It should be perfect. I dont understand after you spend a billion dollars why you cant get it done in two years. But people are still going to be confused. Theyre going to be difficulties telling them exactly what their subsidies are going to be. They might want to change and shop for a new plan and have to go through a lengthy reenrollment process. Well see how successful they are. Gerri this all happens against the backdrop of an economy that is punk. It is not growing as much as it should and you wrote a really interesting report for the chamber of commerce foundation, explaining, describing, really how the slow growth hurts americans. Give us a little nugget from that. I thought the analysis was spot on. It is devastating. During the postwar, up to 2007, incomes per person doubled basically every 32 years. That meant the standard of living doubled in someones working career. Could imagine buying a motor boat or vacation or sending a kid to college, whatever it might be they dreamed of it was attainable in their working life. Since then weve grown average. 7 . That means income will double in 99 years. The American Dream is so far in the future they cant even see it. Hope gets diminish and lives are diminished. We need to do better. Gerri entitlement programs like obamacare dont help because theyre very expensive. Doug, great to see. You thank you, gerri. Gerri another hot button issue, Keystone Pipeline, first time in six years legislation green lighting a the project is heating up both in the house and senate. Republican congressman Leonard Lance of new jersey is a member of house energy and commerce committee. Were catching up with him before he heads to the floor to vote. Congressman, thank you so much for being on the show tonight. Great to have you here. What is your expectation for what will happen to this bill . Thank you for having me, gerri. I think it is going to pass and i think it will pass with bipartisan support. We vote on the rule in about half hour. We will vote on the substance of the bill tomorrow. I predict overwhelming, bipartisan support on the floor of the house tomorrow. Gerri weve got two competing bills, right . Mary landrieus bill in the senate, bill cassidys bill in the house. They are presumably the no exact same bill. How will this get resolved . The president now signaling that he will veto that legislation. I think that the senate is taking action and i think there will be a final vote in the senate next week, given the fact that senator landrieu is in very tough reelection race. As you know that election is in early december. Congressman and medical doctor cassidy sits next to me on the house energy and commerce committee. His bill will pass in a bipartisan fashion tomorrow. Gerri so if you, do you think he will manage to get a bill between the two houses, house and senate, to the president s desk . I mean i have watched for this for a long time. Were all holding our breaths. I believe that will happen and i hope that the president decides to sign the legislation. There is some indication that he may not sign it. But, his own state department has said that there is no significant environmental degradation. This creates american jobs and of course we want to be as Energy Independent as possible. Our great ally, canada, wants us to move forward in this regard. And overwhelming majority of the American People favor this. No action by the president these last six years has meant that, it is not moved forward. It is time to put a bill on the president s desk. Gerri buts, congressman, i want you to respond to what white house spokesman josh earnest had to say. He doesnt seem as upbeat as you are. Listen to this. We have indicated that the president s senior advisors at white house recommend he veto legislation like that. I havent reviewed specific details discusses overnight our time in the congress but i think it is fair to say that our, that our dim view of these kind of proposals has not changed. Dim view of these kind of proposals. Thats condemning. What happens if the president vetoes this legislation . What happens to the project . What happens to frankly, what the president and americans view of the president . Well, i think he need new advisors. I think he needs new advisors for some reasons. The American People spoke last week and they spoke and in a clear and resounding way. If he were to veto it in lameduck session, new congress controlled both husbands by republicans will undoubtedly put the bill on his desk again. I want to make sure we move forward. I hope the president will have advisors who has recognized importance of this critical piece of legislation. If you could, just remind our viewers the Economic Impact of this pipeline. What will it do . It will create jobs as the pipeline is being built and it will create permanent jobs. We should become more Energy Independent, number one. And number two, as matter of National Security we should support our great ally canada. If canada is not able to be involved in this, canada will look in another direction to other countries for all sorts of reasons. This is good legislation and the state Department Says it is environmentally sound. Gerri does indeed. 42,000 jobs. 3 billion contribution to the gdp. Congressman, thanks for coming on. Great to see. You thank you very much, gerri. Gerri we want to know what you think. Here is our question tonight. Will president obama finally cave on the Keystone Pipeline . Log on to gerriwillis. Com. Vote on the righthand side of the screen. I will share results at end of tonights show. Because there is no Keystone Pipeline oil has to be shipped around the country by freight train. That means there is now a shortage of railcars to move another vital energy source, coal. A third of our electricity, a third, comes from coal. And shortage could drive up utility bills for everybody. Jeff flock reports now from one of those coalfired electricity stations just outside of chicago. Jeff. And, gerri, 2 3 of the coal moves by rail. As you point out, there is a choke now on that rail traffic. This is a coal yard just outside of chicago. This is the nrg plant and these stockpiles of coal at these plants around the country have been shrinking. Take a look at the numbers. For the last two straight years there has been less and less coal in stockpile but these plants. Last winter it got tremendously cold and they used a lot of coal. Well, now it is competing for those rail shipments. Take a look. Grain, petroleum and coal, three big users of the rail, and this year, grain shipments are up 15 . That is because we had a booming grain harvest. Petroleum shipments, oil from the shale frack fields in montana and north dakota up 13 . Coal, pretty much shows shipments are flat this year in terms of an increase. And they dont have enough coal out there. I dont mean to pile on, dont mean to pretend to know anything about the environmental impacts of the Keystone Pipeline but i do know that the pipeline would run, if we take a look at the map, right along some of those choked rail lines. A lot of people that support the pipeline say that would take the pressure off this competition for rail traffic that just doesnt seem to be able to meet demand right now. Big harvest, big oil production. Need for coal. There is just not enough rail out there. It is a tough situation, gerri. Gerri very tough situation impacting people all over the country. People who produce coal. People who manufacture and produce other power, it is, going to be a tough winter if were not careful. Thanks so much for that report. We appreciate your time. Thanks, gerri. Still a lot more to come this hour including your voice. Your voice is important to us. Thats why during the show we want to you facebook me or beat me gerriwillisfbn or send me an email, go to gerriwillis. Com. At the bottom of the hour i will read your tweets and your emails. Plus we all know your car is spying on you but where does the information go . Automakers banding together to give customers peace of mind. Details coming up. receptionist gunderman group. Gunderman group is growing. Getting in a groove. Growth is gratifying. Goal is to grow. Gotta get greater growth. I just talked to ups. They got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. Like smart pick ups. Theyll only show up when you print a label and its automatic. We save time and money. Time . Money . Time and money. Awesome. 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So while stated commitment to privacy is a good first step, unfortunately the pledge fails to meaningfully protect drivers. There is no meaningful form of oversight. No meaningful accountability. Unfortunately the pledge keep as status quo of the wholesale collection of sensitive driver information. Thats why we need federal baseline protections for this information. Gerri what were talking about here, really is metadata, right . You and i driving around in our cars every day drive around in ton of information that can be sold. Insurance companies. Could be sold into divorce attorneys, pizza maker down the street and wants to know passing by the shop. Its a treasure trove for a variety of folks out there. Tell us, how is this changed . How is it different . Is it so transformational that the powers that be will be so entrenched that no way we could bring information to ourselves. You bring up a good point. Were in environment of wholesale information collection. Not just met that data. Where you are, where youve been, where youre going, direct information like your name, your address. Even credit card information if you are subscribing to a certain service. Auto manufacturers are even interested in biometric information. Gerri oh, lord. Congress is actually gerri biometric . Biometric information. Gerri tell me, how does that help them . Ford for a while has been in the research stages of collecting a driver heart rate and collecting drivers saks exactly that type of information. If were talking about that information absolutely why it needs to be protected. In fact in today, response to the pledge, senator markey announced that he would be releasing results from an investigation over the privacy and Security Standards of auto manufacturers. And he will call for clearcut rules, not voluntary commitments to safeguard this information. Gerri that is your real objection, right . This is a pledge. My guess the automakers are doing it because they dont want a law to be passed. Theyre hoping to take, you know, if they put this forward, then there wont be a law. A couple of things theyre using to sell to us. I mean, for example. Maybe you could get Road Condition alerts. Maybe services to unlock your car which exist already today. Cartocar communication. There are some things out there, i guess, some treats, some candy, that drivers would like to have. Do we want to throw everything out with the bath water here . Absolutely not. Drivers are interested in having technology but they want their information to be protected. They want to know when they sign up for these services, that information doesnt go to Law Enforcement or for general marketing purposes or, that it wont be subject to other consumers gathering this information. They want to know that the information is secure. They want to know it wont be used for secondary purposes and they want to know at their choosing they can delete this information. Gerri well, i got to tell you, i can barry drive with my barely drive with my husband the car nonetheless shouting advertising at me. It i will be interesting what happens to this one. Thank you for coming on the show tonight. Thank you for having me. Gerri more troubles for the airbag maker takata continues. They are under investigation for defective airbags linked to five deaths. Federal grand jury has subpoenaed takatas u. S. Unit to produce documents on defects. Those airbags are found to shoot out shrapnel after deploying in a crash. In addition to the grand jury the senate is likely to hold a hearing next week with testimony from takata executives n a meeting with financial analysts, takata says it is not adding production lines to make replacements but making constant improvements to the chemical compound use in its inflators, that is what caused trouble. Since 2008, 17 million cars equipped with takata airbags have been recalled with 11 million in the u. S. All five deaths were in honda vehicles. A driver in malaysia died in airbag linked accident. It is recalling 170,000 fit subcompacts. Coming up, day four of our users guide to Holiday Shopping with a look at the best tech gifts under 200 bucks. Next College Costs continue to skyrocket. Could there be relief in sight . Results of a new College Board report coming up after the break. Stay with us. Go ahead and put your bag right here. Have a nice flight traveling can feel like one big mystery. Youre never quite sure what is coming your way. 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