And the common procedures that will cost you the most . Also the big broadcasters like fox, nbc and espn are not happy with verizons new cable tv prices, but well investigate if its really the great deal for consumers verizon claims . And the great bourbon heists, the criminals that stole one of the rarest and most expensive boushons in the world, and how they did . T. The nine defendants selling and redistributing massive amounts of bourbon. Gerri all that and more on the willis report, where consumers are our business. A possible president ial candidate that wants to shake things up in washington is doing very well in the polls. Thank you very much. Thats former arkansas governor mike huckabee. He thinks washington stinks, but says we can as a country return to greatness. He outlines many of the ideas in the new book gods guns, grits and gravy. So it looks like youre running for president. I dont know why youre waiting two weeks. Why dont you just announce right here right now, my friend . Well i dont want to spoil the big news thats going to come in Hope Arkansas on may 5th, and i know a lot of the public probably says all these candidates are doing all these games but there is a practical reason that you dont announce your announcement before you make it. Thats because the federal Election Commission laws that sometime are ridiculous. They make no sense, its exactly what one would expect something coming out of washington. But ill just have to leave it at this gerri ill let you know on may 5th in Hope Arkansas. Hope you can be there. Gerri let me ask you this how do you make a decision this big . For you personally what are the biggest factors . Theres a lot of factors. One of them is financial, i can raise the money . Another is political. Do i have the people who can put together the organization the operatives the supporters in the various states and another fact on, its the spiritual decision. Its whether i feel internally that this is something that im compelled to do, and something that i have the support of my family to do i would never do this if my wife and my family werent with me all the way. Its hard enough to do it when theyre with you. I think its impossible to run for Public Office any office, even city council, if your family doesnt believe that you should do it. Gerri well you know, if the spouse isnt on board, forget it is my rule of thumb for anything. You talk about the political, you talk about the money. Lets go to some of the polls right now. In terms of likability, youre leading the pack. 57 in a dead heat with some of the top people on this list rand paul jeb bush, ted cruz scott walker. Take a look at those numbers. Is likability is that translatable to votes in your opinion . It always has been. The fact is people, when it gets down to, it theyre not going to vote for someone they dont like. They dont vote for someone they dont feel connects to them. One of the things i hope for is you and all the other people at fox with whom i worked for many years that you dont tell everything you know about me or my ship is sunk before it gets launched off the deck. Gerri we were talking about you during the break, i dont think anybody is going tong bad you on. I want to present you with the naysayers about a possible huckabee campaign. Somebody writing for the economist who said your campaigned be a leap of faith, and i quote mr. Huckabees chances of winning are so remote a cynic might presume his real intention is to sell more books. What do you say . Thats an idiotic statement by somebody who clearly has no clue because if i wanted to sell books, dont you think it would have been smarter to stay on fox, keep my radio show continue to make speeches all over the country where i could do a book signing . Why on gods earth if i wanted to sell books would i get out of book selling business if i was running for president. Anyone who writes stuff like that knows about as much about politics as they probably been writing and journalism. Hows that for an answer. Gerri red hot. Lets talk about god, guns, grits and gravy probably the best book title of the 20th century, or 21st. What is the purpose of this . Why did you write this thing . It isnt a political book. I worked on it starting two years ago, and its really a book to explain to people that this cultural polarization that exists in america is very relationship. Theres a difference between the peoples attitudes who live in places like new york washington and hollywood where the cultural table for america is really set, and then all those people who live out here in flyover country and land as i call it, the land of god, guns grits and gravy, thats the term they use to describe the flyover states. People in the bubbles who say no, theres no polarization. Theres no real difference. But you get out here in the middle of america, and people would laugh at you if you said there is not some kind of significant difference. Its a book that gerri here in new york city, people think theres nothing west of the hudson river. I understand exactly what youre talking about. I want to move on to some of the issues that are pressing here, and want to hear what you have to say. Im going to be speaking in a few moments with senator coburn as you know, hes been a big complainer about washington waste, and now it seems like the republicans in washington well, they seem to be spending right along, thank you very much. If you were to run, and were not presuming you will, would this be job number one for you . Well im not sure its job number one but certainly on the list. And job number one is to get america in a place its safe again. Bring america to a place where the countries of the world respect it. Number two get our economy going again, make sure the socalled recovery is happening for people who are lifting heavy things and sweating through their clothes every day, but cutting the ridiculous spending is a part of getting the economy going. I love senator coburn hes one of the truly great statesmen of our time. Im going to miss him in the senate because heres a man who never played the political game. Didnt do what he did because he thought it would win a few votes or make him happy or positive with the donor class. He did what he believed was right and points out a lot of stupid things that we spend money on as taxpayers and we cant afford. Gerri one of the biggest jobs to keep america safe. One of the biggest threats to the planet isis do you have a plan for that . Gerri, we have to understand we cant beat an enemy we dont name. We have to name this as an islamic terrorist group. You cant make peace or make nice with people who have a religious conviction to kill you. Theres nothing to negotiate. You kill them or they will kill you. That sounds blunt, sounds harsh its just a reality and the sooner we accept that and quit trying to pretend theres a way to ameliorate this deadly situation with isis is the quicker we can defeat them, put them behind us get the rest of the arab worlds equally afraid of this radicalism to unite together and crush this bog. It has to happen. Gerri has to happen. Mike huckabee, author of the four gs god, guns grits and gravy. Thank you so much. Thank you, gerri. Gerri do republicans have a spending problem . One of the deficit hawks is here to tell us whats going on behind the scenes and whether republicans are trying to reign in spending. Former republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma joins us now. Hes just retired from congress and has left a legacy of fighting waste, fraud and abuse in washington. Good to see you, senator thank you for coming on the show. We talk so much about restraint in spending. Glad to be with you. Gerri so good to have you here. Restraint in spending, were wondering if present republicans in congress have that restraint . Well i dont think you really know until you see the appropriation bills go through. Budget is a budget vote but it doesnt have any force of law other than what theyll do in terms of the later on in terms of trying to fix entitlement programs. And, you know i dont know and im not privy to what they say. I am disappointed that they did not pay for the change in the payment for physicians for the sgr Sustainable Growth rate formula i think that was a mistake to send a signal were going to spend money, and by the way time out right now. So its hard, but the real problem is not just spending money. The real problem is the ability to borrow money, and im convinced. One of the reasons i left washington was i dont think you fix washingtons problems in washington. I think you fix them with a convention of the states, with states and citizens where our constitution says the ultimate authority lies within the states and the citizens and i think you do that by putting the limit on what they can borrow, passing the balanced budget amendment. The balance between getting reelected and getting whats best for the country are at odds most of the time, and if you try to do whats best for the country you are going to get voted out. Gerri let me interrupt you for a second. You alluded to things i want to go more indepth on. Were interested in the republicans we have a president ial election and goodness knows where we go next. You mentioned the medicare doc fix, there was a 140 Million Dollar price tag. That is how much is going to be added to pay for the doc fix. Theyre adding more defense spending in a sneako sort of way, and it seems to me that the people that you would rely on that cut back, that trim to get rid of the waste fraud and abuse are just as guilty as the other side. Would you agree . Well yong theyre quite as guilty, not creating a bunch of new programs that cost more money and not duplicating more programs. Fact is most career politicians regardless of strife republican democrat or independent if the goal is to stay in washington theyre not going to limit the size and scope and authority of the federal government. Gerri one will little fact, last year the omb and the Congressional Budget Office said the deficit was 480 billion dollars. Thats absolutely untrue. If you add the increase and unfunded liabilities like every other business and corporation would have to do out there using generally accepted accounting principles we added 5 and 6 trillion dollars to the liability for our kids last year. So ten times what we said to the american public. And so the dishonesty coming out of washington means that the American People have to take over washington again, and we have to have leadership willing to say, heres what our founders intended. Were going to restore that limit the size and scope of what washingtons doing. I think you got to realize that government accounting is fiction writhe. Senator coburn thanks for coming on the show. So good to see you. Thank you, god bless you good to see you. Gerri thank you, thank you so much. And still a lot more to come this hour, starting with the fact youre not imagining things, you are paying more for medical costs, no kidding and will you pay more to unbundle your cable . Well separate facts from fiction facts from marketing when it comes to verizons new plan. Tweet me send me email go to our website. Well be right back. When a moment spontaneously turns romantic why pause to take a pill . 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What the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. It used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. Whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, thats what id like to do. Gerri verizon, pitching new what they call custom tv as a way to stop consumers from paying for channels they dont want. For 55 bucks custom tv offers 36 basic channels and two genre channel packages sports childrens tv news you get it. If you want to add more channel packages an extra 10 bucks a month. This a great deal . Thats a question we ask at the willis report. Investigator carainvestigated. Heres what she found. The average house watches 17 channels. If you look at the topmost watched 17 channels according to nielsen they spread out across six channel packages offered by verizon six. And based on the assumption this is the way you shop your cable plan your 55 cable bill jumps to 95 bucks. Where is the deal . Especially when the average cable bill is 90. Joining us now Jeremy Kaplan editor in chief of digital trends. Jeremy this makes me shake my head. Think about it you only want 17 channels buying 189. Verizon says no, were going to save you a lot of money. When you do the math its going to end up being more . Its kind of horrifying how much money were already paying these people. Verizon or cablevision or time warner, any of them. We dont like the services because theyre so darn expensive. And verizon is trying do something, i applaud the initiative. The idea is right. But youre right you are going to spend more here. Gerri you say there are fees on top of this. If you want Internet Service goodness gracious. All of a sudden the bill is 150 200 its preposterous. Do i like news i like entertainment or kids programming but im not a bucket. Theyre putting things into buckets here. I dont want just the one thing i want one thing here and over there nobody offers all what we as consumers all want. Gerri what you want to do is pick out the individual channels that you want. Is that ever going to happen . Gosh, i dont know, they have to support the papaya network and the allgolf channel. Gerri nothing wrong with the allgolf channel. I dont want to subsidize everything else. Gerri you say there are other fees were paying that are objectionable. What are they . If you look at it verizon is terrible. So you have to rent a wireless router from them, even though you have one, its an expensive one that does what your current one does. Thats annoying. Rent a cable box like you get from cable for an awful lot more than you pay for cable box. The Little Things like that add in the long run. Gerri they add up in the long run know and people are desperate to find twice shortcut, to cut the cord, and you are starting to see, it but its these initiatives that are misleading. Its like a half step, a baby step. Its a baby step i applaud the initiative the idea is right. We want a form of change and theres an awful lot of change in the industry right now. Gerri absolutely right. This is a good idea but i dont know take a close look if youre thinking about this take a close look at overall costs. Gerri netflix, sling, apple tv, hulu, theres people with content that people are eager to get. Thats for sure. Let me tell you whats going on fox Nbc Universal espn are all crying wolf saying you cant do this verizon, it busts up every agreement we have with every sporting event can you think of, nfl football you name. It is that going to put the kabash on this . Thats the challenge, when you have verizon against disney or news corp. Over here they have their own business models. Verizon is trying to change the fundamental business models. Gerri verizon says theyre not going to stop. Can they go up against the lef leviasons . Maybe it is good to have competition going headtohead, maybe something will come of it. One of the companies that died along the way, aereo is ponying up dough to the Major Networks for material content that they say was stolen. Aereo is such a frustrating concept. Brilliant idea and got shot down. Gerri very quickly. Very unfortunate. Gerri great to you have on the show. Thanks for coming in. My pleasure. Gerri wow, tv continues. Stealing more bourbon than anyone can drink in a lifetime. Thats how prosecutors are describing a kentucky heist. Well have the latest. And so much for Cheaper Health Care. A new report shows outofpocket costs are skyrocketing. Well have the details and get your reaction. Stay with us. Gerri obamacare was supposed to bring Cheaper Health Care costs. The opposite is happening. A stunning new find. Outofpocket medical costs jumped by 11 last year. With more on this the president of American Action forum. Doug, very good to see you. Thanks gerri. Gerri medical costs are rising, the promises are broken. 11 for outofpocket costs. This is just unsustainable, is it not . It is unsustainable. Theres bad news beyond. That the underlying cost of pharmaceuticals also went up 11 we saw services go up at about 4 rate in 2014. So the basic bill is getting bigger and bigger, and then were putting more of the outofpocket on individuals. In the end, premiums are going up at 8 , outofpocket is faster than that. For the household trying to manage theyre going to have trouble. The Company Transunion is reporting on it surveying consumers talking about what is a pressure on the family budget, right . Thats what were talking about here, seeing costs go up in other categories. Youre an economist you know what im talking