so it's basically figuring out what these kids eat that is healthy and going at it from that perspective. it has been well received. the kids are honest with their feedback and able to mould the menu. >> the pizza, chicken nuggets and got rid of the desserts. you are telling us they're happy with that? . how can we believe that? >> we still do a pizza day but it is with english muffins and a pretty good homemade recipe that i have. we put them together by hand and get them their pizza fix that way about once a month. a little bit better than what i grew up having in school after the era where it was the rectangular pieces of pizza that flop over and you aren't sure what color the cheese was. >> bill: did you have to sell them on your ideas? how long did that take? >> there was a trust-building process. it took a month and a half.