facilitate the numbers, probably incorrect. even if you take their numbers and if then minus out the number of combatants that the idf says they've taken out, the civilian to combatant death ratio that israel has managed to accomplish if in an urban warfare environment, while t sad that any if civilian ever dies in war, it is a fact of war, it is markedly lower than almost any other war in history. the efforts that israel has gone to reduce civilian deaths are historically an outlier if compared to any other war. kayleigh: interesting. pete: you're exactly right. and i've heard -- that's the numbers. i've heard the same thing from the folks that just analyze these things on the military side. they say we've never seen neck like it. yes, people get killed, you're exactly right, the numbers are a lie from the gaza health ministry or or but the steps the israeli military have been taken will be 12ued in the pooch because of the consideration for civilians.