Finally getting answers. Nancy you see him. Bryan kohberger studying kr criminal justice. Detectives arrested 28yearold bryan west for kohberger on a warrant for murder of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana KernodleXana Kernodle, and ethan chapin. It is death and or imprison am for life, do you want. Yes. The surviving roommate, came facetoface with the killer, perhaps most chilling single detail was the story of the roommate. Who saw this man, clad all in black and wearing a mask. Cell phone data shows he returned to the screen. Just hours later before police were called. Were glad we live in the state of idaho with the death penalty. I am nancy grace, thank you for being with us for this somewhere report on idaho st student murders, right now more questions than answers, well take your questions. Did Bryan Kohberger actually attend a memorial for the four of slain students . Laura ingel. Unconfirmed reports surfacing now. Tonight that Kohberger Waltzed across the floor of the memorial at end of more for the four slain students have you seen the video. I have, there are a lot of people who are paying close attention to this. The movements of the people as they walk. And compare to video of Bryan Kohberger lead in and out of a courtroom. Something interesting about that Memorial Service, everyone that went in, it is our understanding had to be screened every person who was screened may have had their photo taken, there were people watching, this was always a concern of family members. You have to look at the way he walked and his legs move. Compared even though was shackled in the courtroom in pennsylvania, a lot of concern. We know that there were a lot of eyes on every person that was at the memorial. Nancy joining me dr. Bethany marshall, psychoanalyst out of beverly hills, if this is true, and Bryan Kohberger actually attended the memorial for the four slain students, what would that tell you . It would not be first time weve seen a Murder Defendant Show Up at a funeral, normally, in this case, detectives are combing the funeral or memorial to spot the defendant. This does not surprise pleme, we see this all of the time in cases of domestic homicide, i think he still reveling in the crime. He is self flow glorifying the crime, he has been fascinated with crime his entire life, his under gradgraduate degree was in crime. He submitted a questionnaire on facebook asking people about how they fell during committing a crime, he has been fascinated with crime, and he sto stalked victims, that tells me that the O Ofen Offending Cycle of the before. Nancy this is the interesting thing. I want to follow up on what you are saying, i want to about to cheryl mccollum. Over many weeks until that Memorial Service. Nancy founder of Cold Case Research institute, cheryl. Im following up on what the doctor said, if, Bryan Kohberger did attending the memorial, it is like he is feeding off he is reliving the moments of the murders. And we know that he came back to the home, this is amazing, with no eyewitness, and no Murder Weapon yet, police have pieced together an incredible technological case using Live Streaming center the food truck and tiktok to celle phone data to all sorts of technological break throughs, that reminds me, cheryl, Tonight Circle back to the fact that they did try a Cell Phone Data dump. Around the time of murders, but now we know that kohberger turned off his point when he left his home over at wsu, back to reliving the moment, we know he came back to the scene the morning of the murders to what . Admire his handiwork . Or to get that sheath from the knife knthe back that was left or maybe silence a went that had seen him . It could have been any of those, i want to talk about something i have not heard anyone else mention, he is stalking that house, prior to the murders, the 12 times he goes there, the day of the murders, he goes over three times before the 4 04, he parks on begin side, Kaylee Goncalves a range rover was out there, she went to that house to show maddi her new car, saw a car he did not know or he did know who it dela belonged to. It didnt matter to him. Another issue that is emerging, been a lot of backlash against one of the two girls that survived. Dm. She is named in the probable cause affidavit, she waited over 7 hours to raise a bell of alarm. Call 911, get 911 called. There may be a lot of factors for that but i want to go to brian foley, former homicide detective, you have dealt with so many homicide witnesses. This girl, is just a sophomore, she has not lived away from home before this, a teen girl that witnessed a horrible thing. I imagine she is either blocking what she saw or in a State Of Shock and fear, she darted back in her room and locked door. Nancy, i have known people that have witnessed and did not take action and have had to live with that, it is impacting. I can almost assure you this life will be tra tragically affected there is only one person that is the bad person in in whole case, that the monster that killed the four people, he is behind bars to vilify her, swe dont know what type of trauma she faced in her life or what kind of day she had or what she was does that might, people dont know how they will react in those scenarios you look at popolice officers we train for different scenarios, in. She is lucky that they were not holding a Memorial Service for her that same week. Nancy, for a point. Nancy go ahead. There are very strong by logical underpinnings, she is fight or flight. Fight or flight, is sometime called flight or freezing whether a person is faced with a threat they will fight or freeze. Freezing is a common response, that is what she did, we dont know if she was used to other students coming out, it was also 4 in the morning, we do dont know if they were drinking or she was super tired and wake waking up out of a deep sleep. Nancy question. Did the killer actual ge online and brag online chat room. That when we come back, stay with us. If your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds. Com can see if it may qualify for a Payroll Tax Refund of up to 26,000 per employee. All it takes is eight minutes to get started. Then work with professionals to assist your business with its forms and submit the application. Go to getrefunds. Com to learn more. Every day can be extraordinary with rich, creamy, Delicious Fage total yogurt. I door dash, tiktok, a dog barking in the night, horrifying last words, Police Release calm shell details from the 4 University Of Idaho students final hours, now appears that alleged killer stalked his victims, Cell Phone Information shows he visited area at least 4 times since the murders in Early Morning hours, november 13. Camera spot a White Sedan Driving by the offcampus home. After a night on the town, Xana Kernodle ordered door dash and opened up tiktok, then. Roommate dm tells cops she wakes up. Sounding lies Kaylee Goncalves playing with her dog, and saying theres someone here, dmopens her door, looks, see nothing, returning to, as musical before Hearing A Cry from Xana Kernodles room, and a m male voice saying, its okay im going to help you. Police say a Security Camera pickings up sounds of a dog barking and distorted audio, that sounded like voices, W Whimperring followed by a loud thud. And dm opened her door, facetoface with the alleged killer, walks past her, she strikes him male, 510, not muscular, bushy eyebrows, the wide side an speeds away. And Police Called 11 58 a. M. They find 4 victims brutally stabbed, investigation c commences. Technology the cell phone, the data. The towers. All of the technological data does one thing and one thing only, it corroborates dna. Dna they they searched murder scene to try to find dna from the killer, they did. Laura is joining me. Tell me about the dna that according to the affidavit was found in the murder home. Dna that was discovered came off of the sh sheath that came from the thick blade knife that investigators believe was used in the murders. It has a snap on the top, somehow the person left it behind, it is detailed as probable cause affidavit it was found lying next to the body of Madison Mogen on the bed, in a were able to detract dna from that, as we know. Were also later surveying the parents home. Bryan kohbergers home in pennsylvania, they went through the trash, they were able to pull something out of there they were able to test and make a comparison that lead them to life that Bryan Kohberger was connected to this crime. Nancy joining me right now special guest, a dna genius, cc moore. This is what im understanding out of all that, a blood bath at the scene, there may be more, i suspect there will be, one bit of dna that was found is in the snap on the sheath of that knife that foi folds over the knife. Explain to me. How that correlates to dna found in the Pennsylvania Kohberger family home from the father. We dont know what type of dna was on that snap. It was most likely touched dna. They would have take than touched dna, might have been a few skin cells sent to to Idaho Crime Lab and extracted that creating a genetic profile it is made up of 20 genetic markers, with the trash pull from family home in pennsylvania they would not have known whose dna they were getting, they could tell it was a male. And when they tested it, it wasnt the same dna that was on the snap, but it was determined to be the father of the person whose dna was on the snap that is a straight forward comparison that is a standard paternity comparison which has been accepted in courts for decades. This is really straight forward, and really high confidence. Nancy hit me with the numbers that we discussed. The dna exacttude 99. 999 8 , you put a number at me the other day on o on one in three th 300 trillion. That a number we use in court to specify that this is the one and only person on earth who could have contributed to this dna. Good lord in heaven. The only person on earth . that supplied that dna is the father of the killer . Wow. So, my question well. Nancy my question, how will a whiley defense attorney think Johnny Cochran come in and try to crack the states case, can be that done stay with us. Welcome to fox news live, i am Jackie Ibanez in new york a busy week for House Republicans and newly appointed speaker kevin mccarthy. To govern the house, Mccoukevin Mccarthy was chosen speaker after a 15 ballot election to win he had to make concession, now the promises put into writing to be voted on. And reports that damar hamlin could be released from hospital within days, he suffered Cardiac Arrest during a game last monday, today he was honored by the nfl. Several games featured his Jersey Number on the 30 yard lines, bills wore a patch on their uniforms. I am Jackie Ibanez, now back to the idaho murders. For your headlines log on to fa foxnews. Com. Nancy you are seeing video of bl bloody mattresses coming out of the home, i believe you are, these images are to see our friends at daily mail it hits home. What the four beautiful students family enduring, you spend your whole life trying to help your children, raise them, take care of them, love them, make enough money to send them to college to give them a better life, then this . Suddenly, they are not there for christmas . Or new years, it starts sinking in, they are never coming home, and then you see the evidence as it unfolded and probable cause affidavit. Guys, so m much, much has been happening we hear there is a suggested a neighbor security cam Caught Whimperring and a thud. And when the parents hear that it has to be so upsetting. Then a straight out to you jonathan former fbi special agent, you have the stark dichotomy of what appears to be very premeditated moves on the part of the alleged killer, Bryan Kohberger, out of all many times he has been coming over and casing that home, the murder home where the victims lived in Early Morning hours when still dark, late at night, 12 times we know of, back to june. But this night, this one night, of all nights, he cuts his cell phone off puts it in plane mode as he is driving. From moscow from Wsu To Moscow and en route back home he flip its back on, that is cold. He came back to the house later he didnt turn it off or commit a crime at the home at the time allegedly there are hart hard points throughout that timeline we know particular things happen. We know he left his house, Cell Phone Last V registers 24 se47. The car that of the spotted in neighborhood that leaves at 420 it is turned back on. In between that time, this leads a lot of credibility to that particular sit of hard times there is hard times throughout. We know door dash arrived 4 00 a. M. , they could validate that with a time stamp on a cell tower, we know that car was in and around the neighborhood, we can validate that with cameras. And then we know that particular time went there, that Xana Kernodla phone went off tiktok, they are hard times, you compare and contrast that, what you see is there is very definitive times in which this individual would have been there, there is evidence that car was there. He was heading there. According to cell phone tower, then headed back from there. These are very definitive hard points throughout the night. Nancy to director of cold case foundation. Worked of 300 homicides, chris. This particular moment, the couple of hours of the murders, his cell phone is turned off . And it gets back on, they can see it traveling, back from moscow back to wsu. Yeah. This is to jonathans point, he goes off grid 247 and comes back on 4 48, then we have 12 other previous events, where his phone pinged. What si is interesting about 12 other times, one was august 21. 12 weeks to the day, a sunday, of the homicides. So, is this guy doing a presurveillances. He is thinking through how he will take you know, advantage of all of Technology Training he has to his cloud base forensic training and 12 weeks later he hits the target. In my opinion this f goes toward consciousness of guilt and malice aforethought. If i could interject, i do not believe this is just survey lint, i believe many serial killers, i think this is first of what he intended he just happened to get caught, there is a strong sexual component to serial killers, they use inflicttion of pain and harm to enhance their sexual arousal, we may talk about Him Surveilling or casing the join or getting ready for the crime, i think it was part of a master bator batorfantasy, we need to think of this as spanning surveil or stalk, he began to fuel his sexual fantasies by watching the young women. Nancy i have jump in. I think this goes all the way back to pennsylvania. Where there is evidence he had the same behaviors, at the a brewery in pennsylvania, he was stalking women asking strange questions. Two seconds left well pick it up after this. Im a screen addicted tween. And, if im not posting on social media, i dont feel seen. Hey mom. Look mom oh my god mom. You gotta look at this. Nope. 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