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Those charges have been sealed by a judge and anyone facing charges can be taken into custody as soon has to tomorrow. Meanwhile House Republicans are launching new investigations into Hillary Clinton. Including the revelation that her campaign and the Democratic National Committee Paper Opposition Research that led to the russian dossier that accused the Trump Campaign of collision with the russians gudrun is now we have congressman chairman of the House Oversight committee. Lets talk about the news outlets that the first charges will be announced tomorrow as a former prosecutor yourself, what will you be looking for . First of all chris, we do not know who is being charged. Lets assume the reporting is true. We do not know who is being true, we dont know what they are being charged for. The only conversation i was Robert Mueller was discussing cutting out the leaks with respect to the series investigations. It is ironic that the people charged with investigating the law in executing the law would violate the law and make no mistake, disclosing grand jury material is a violation of the law. As a former prosecutor im disappointed that we are having this conversation. There are so many that violated asomebody violated their oath of secrecy. As a federal prosecutor, you are quite right. We do not know who has been charged and what they are being charged for. What, if anything, when we find that out awhether is some close to the present or further down or if they are related to rush out work went the charge. Not to say it is not legitimate but Something Like fraud or money laundering. What will that tell us about the Mueller Investigation . The little phrase from rod rosenstein, ambrose may arise from the investigation. The reason you have that is that if special counsel finds evidence unrelated to his or her original jurisdiction you do not ignore it. But it will be really important whether or not this indictment involves 15yearolds business transactions for 15dayold conversations with russia. So its really important what the charge is. It is really important for the person being charged is. One thing i do not get that excited about although i do see a lot of reporting is somehow or another, you will be able to flip a witness and the witness will turned states evidence on everyone else. If he did not believe a witness yesterday, chances are you will not believe that witness tomorrow. Particularly if they are under indictment and have reason to with the government. This comes down to documents much more than witness testimony precaution of yours, dont get too excited that all of a sudden the government has a star witness. The star witness he probably did not believe one week ago and you will not believe one week from now. There have been growing calls from some republicans to end the Mueller Investigation. Some people say he is too close to james comey and the fbi in that he ought to resign. Some people say that when the mueller budget for the special counsel investigation has presented to congress to review, next month, that they should cut all funding. Do you support any effort to either curtail or end the Mueller Investigation . I do not. And i readily concede on a small group of republicans. I think that bob mueller is a distinguished career of service to the country. I do nothing any of your viewers can think of a single thing he did is the fbi director that cause them to have a lack of confidence in him. I think most of your viewers have to be reminded that he actually was the fbi director or exit was the us attorney because he is a pretty apolitical guy. I see the reporting, i see that same thing that you are making reference to the hay and james comey of friends. Im not really sure what the definition of that is. I have got a lot of coworkers. It would not stop me from investigating them or prosecuting them. So they are not family members. They were not business partners. I would encourage my republican friends, give the guy a chance to do his job. The result will be known by the facts. By what he uncovers. The personalities involved are much less important to me than the underlying facts. I would say give the guy a chance to do his job. Lets turn to the revelation this week that it turns out that the Clinton Campaign in the Democratic National committee paid for the Opposition Research that led to the formulation of this russia dossier that makes all kinds of accusations against the president and his campaign. What do you think is the significance of the revelation . One of the areas of significance chris is just how far the democrats and congress fault republicans are trying to get access to the information. If it were to adam schiff and other crowds, they would want all the facts to come out. All of the facts of russia to come out except who financed the dossier. So that is the most important thing to me, how unserious the democrats and the house have been about uncovering all of the facts. Im interested in who paid for the dossier because it helps you understand motive and intent more than if you can rely on the document i am much more interested in whether or not the department of justice in the fbi relied upon not dossier and initiating counterintelligence investigation or in court filings. That is really important to me. I do not expect them to be objective of almost by definition Opposition Research is not objective. I do expect an entity represented by a blindfolded woman to be objective and if they relied on the dossier and if they did not corroborate it, or it, then we have a serious issue and that is the next thing the house intel is trying to find out. Whether or not the Us Government relied on it. Question two points you are making inch, there are two important questions. To the fbi bases original investigation at least in part of the dossier and we talk about court representations, that is the possibility that they use the dossier to convince a court to allow the fbi to wiretap people in trump world. You have evidence about, i understand the investigation is just beginning. Actually investigation is not just beginning. We have been trying for a long time to the department of justice to give us access to this information. Frankly it took the speaker of the house, this week, to tell the department that we are not going away. Chris, people dont like it when i say this but its true. It is sometimes hard to tell the difference between the Obama Department of justice and the Current Department of justice in terms of transparency and their willingness to share information with congress. This is a really simple request. Did you rely on the dossier and if so, did you get it before you relied upon it . You can answer that 30 seconds but it has taken three months for the department of justice and only recently have they agreed to give us the information. The battle is not just with House Democrats unfortunately it is also with the department of justice. Gaining access information that we need to wrap up the investigation. What about the fact that the Clinton Campaign and the dnc, which pay 12 man dollars to the law firm for that the paper the researcher led to the dossier that filings it simply says 12 man dollars called the law firm for legal work. No mention to the dr. They were also paying for research that went to Christopher Steele, a former British Intelligence agent that went to the kremlin, not the money but the investigation. As i understand it, the willful misrepresentation of Campaign Expenditures is a criminal offense. I am not an expert but the good news is you dont have to be to understand the absurdity of believing that you can launder all of your Campaign Money by just hiring a law firm. I mean imagine if you and i were running for congress and we just hired a law firm that said you go do all of this, go by all of the television, go by all of the bumper stickers, go higher on the experience and we will launder all of this through a law firm. I cant think of anything that defeats the purpose of transparency laws more than that. So im interested in that. Im all interested aalso interested in folks at the dnc because no one can remember who paid 10 million to a law firm to do the research. I find it funny. 10 million and no one can remember who authorized it, approved it, who said yes, this is a good idea you have two issues. A memory issue and then the lack of transparency by laundering money to a law firm. We are running out of time but i want to ask you two more questions. You also have the kind an investigation into the uranium one deal. 20 percent of americas uranium reserves ended up going to a russian government agency. Hillary clinton responded this week to all of this talk about her. I like to play a clip of her. The close of the investigation about real russian ties between Donald Trump Associates and real russians, the more that they want to just throw mud on the wall and i am their favorite target. Me and president obama. We are the ones that they like to put into the crosshairs. Secretary clinton and other democrats are saying that you and the republicans are just trying to shift the conversation. Chris, always back in 2010 peter king and eliana ross, sent a letter trying to better understand this transaction. In 2015 the House Oversight Committee Also wrote the Obama Administration trying to understand what they did, whether or not they had all the information. But also keep in mind, we spent most of 2017 trying to better understand what russia did to this country and 2016. Not to the democrats, not to the republicans but to the country. We know that russia was not our friend in 2016. It is not that big of a leap to ask if they were our friends at 2010. It is not that big of a leap. It was not republicans who gave the reset button to russia. It was not republicans that say we will have more flexibility in a second term. It was a republican named mitt romney that said russia was our greatest threat. And the democrats back to him. So yes, i do want to know if the same group that tried to sabotage our democracy in 2016 is buying uranium in 2010. I want to know that. Okay two quick questions to wrap up. On the one hand, given the revelations about the fact that the dnc and the Clinton Campaign paid for the russia dossier, do we at this point have harder evidence of collusion between clinton and the russians than we do about trump and the russians . Chris, there are words that start with c collusion coordination conspiracy contact and coincidence. And where this falls out in those five, i dont know. Collusion has a criminal connotation to it. Your question is accurate. For a long time we have heard about all the ties between the Trump Campaign in russia for which there is no evidence. Then despite serious democrat opposition, we have uncovered that the dnc was red with russian actors to destroy Donald Trumps reputation. So it is interesting when there is collusion, coordination, i dont know yet. We do know is you point out that if the russians did interfere, they did at the dnc files, they did hack and put out information about John Podestas files, dont we need to get to the bottom of that also . I spent the better part of 2017 he that appeared including witnesses interviewed last week. I have more this week. Russia is not our friend. Wikileaks is not our friend, they tried to attack the fundamentals of our democracy. That is what i have spent 2017 focusing on here that to me is an american issue. I wish the democrats would help a little more instead of reading the moscow phonebook during witness interviews trying to see whether Jared Kushner knows a guy named igor. My focus in 2017 is understanding that russia try to subvert our democracy and it would be great if my Democrat Friends helped a little bit. Chairman trey gowdy, thank you and we will follow all of the investigations in the coming days. Yes, sir. Thank you. 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What you make of these reports that special counsel mueller has the first charges filed by a grand jury in his investigation and that whoever is being charged may be taken into custody tomorrow . I think that what i tried to say all year, i think the responsible position has been to allow the investigations to play out and see with the special prosecutor comes up with. Not to speculate in advance. We do not know what will happen tomorrow, if anything will happen to market if the reports are correct. The investigation should allow itself to play out. The country has the right to know what russia, an enemy of the united states, has done to undermine our democracy. As we get to the second part of the panel we certainly have the right to know what other things have gone on with uranium, the russians and democrats. We should allow the information to come out and evaluated when we know what we are evaluating and maybe well find out more tomorrow. Congresswoman jane harman, just to pick up on michaels point. We dont know who is being charged over there being charged for. But assuming the reports are correct, and indictments are issued and announced tomorrow, ones that give Robert Mueller more running room to continue his investigation . It probably will and i applaud what trey gowdy just sit on your program to that he supports Robert Mueller. I think that is where this investigation needs to go. Sadly it is running out of steam on capitol hill i think they are entitled to more information. But i think Robert Mueller has excellent credentials and he is one of the few people that the country seems to trust her now that congress is at 80 percent mistrust and the Trump Administrations at 70 percent distress. Let me go to the other side of this. Theres only so much we can talk about something we have no idea what is going to happen. Although that has never really stopped us [laughter] i want to talk to the revelation that it turns out that it was the Clinton Campaign and it was a Democratic National committee that paid for the Opposition Research that led to the russia dossier. Democrats say that the republicans focus on that and also on