And retail impacting the nations Small Businesses. Well discuss with governors asay hutchinson of mark saw and phil murphy of new jersey. Plus are you not going to [ indiscernible ] President Trump still not conceding while biden introduces his National Security team. We cannot meet these challenges with old thinking and unchanged habits. Well ask our sunday panel how the picks preview the Incoming Administrations policies. And our power player of the week, chris once again dances with turkeys. Gobble, gobble, gobble. All right now, on fox news sunday. Hello again, from fox news in washington. This Holiday Weekend the coronavirus continues to ravage American Families with experts raising concerns that testing disruptions over thanksgiving will give people the false impression the spread has slowed. Meanwhile, promising news of vaccine development, raises the question who should get it first. In a moment, well speak with u. S. Surgeon general, dr. Jerome adams. First, lets get the latest on the biden transition from Jacqui Heinrich in will ming stone, wi, delaware. Jacqui. Reporter good morning. Foregoing thanksgiving on nantucket, president elect joe biden opted for a scaled down dinner in delaware, urging americans to keep making sacrifice as work continues battling the virus. We might not be able to join our of hands around the table with our loved ones, we can come together as a nation. Reporter transition 46 is at work this Holiday Weekend announcing three new advisors to the Coronavirus Task force, the picks reflect the president elects priorities, officials with experience who of will address inequities. Its a formula bidens kept with nominees so far. Experience and leadership, fresh thinking and perspective. Reporter its expected to continue this week, filling economic posts. Janet yellen poised to become the first woman to head up the treasury, equally his tore histc contenders up for secretary of defense. Asian americans and Pacific Islanders are calling for inclusion. Record Asian American turnout helped georgia turn blue in the States Senate runoffs looming ahead. President trump will campaign for the gop incumbents next week end and the legislative agenda is in the crosshairs. Joining us now, u. S. Surgeon general, dr. Jerome adams. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me and thank you to the American People who kept it small and smart this thanksgiving. For those who did travel and those who did attend large gatherings, its not too late to take measures. You can still isolate, you can still get tested in three to five days, you can take measures shown to prevent hospitalizations and deaths. New cases friday surpassed 205,000 and that was breaking a record set the week before. Hospitalizations were at record levels in a number of states including washington, oregon, indiana and pennsylvania. The question is, is this what a dark winter looks like or do you forecast that this is going to get worse in the coming weeks . Well, i want to be straight with the American People. Its going to get worse over the next several weeks. But the actions that we take in the next several days will determine how bad it is or whether or not we continue to flatten our curve. Right before thanksgiving, we actually saw cases start to plateau in many states that have been aggressive limit gaiting. As i mentioned, there are steps you can take right now. I also want people to know theres hope. We are weeks away from starting to vaccinate the vulnerable and we can significantly protect people who are at risk for this virus. So hang on just a little longer, understand that the science out there has never been stronger to support the wearing of masks. You shouldnt have to have a mandate to do the right thing, to protect your neighbor, to keep schools open of. Make sure youre watching your distance and make sure, again, if youve been in a gathering of more than 10 people without your mask on over the last several days, get tested in the next three to five days. I want to talk about the vaccines, the there you pew ticks in a therapeutics in a second. What do you think looking back now was the biggest mistake the administration, Health Experts made since the pandemic started . Well, that is a great question and there are many Different Things that we could have done differently. This virus has been challenging. I wish that, again, this hadnt been super imposed on top of an election. I wish that we had been able to come together as a nation and really talk about the science instead of the poll of ticks and thats on all sides politics and thats on all side, all around. Moving forward, the science has never been stronger in terms of what we can do. Simple, powerful measures, wearing a mask is an instrument of freedom. It actually will let my kids go to school, will protect my mother and you and i talked about this before the interview. My mothers in the hospital right now. I want people to understand that if cases and hospitalizations continue to go up, not only will it hurt our ability to care for Covid Patients but if someones having a baby, they may not be able to get a bed. If someone is having a heart attack or potential stroke like my mother, they may not be able to get a bed. Your actions have consequences and if you do the right thing, then it will bridge us to a vaccine. So hopeful. So hopeful that we can get to that vaccine with as few lives lost as possible. Yeah. You tweeted out last week that the cdc and others of now estimate that 50 or even more of the infections that are around the country are transmitted from people who are not exhibiting symptoms. Obviously, that was not what was believed at the beginning of this pandemic. Absolutely. And im so glad you brought that up because, again, masks have become politicized. I want people to understand that in the beginning we did not of think, based on our experience with any other respiratory virus, that we would have this high degree of asymptomatic spread, people spreading it who look and feel fine, who dont have a fever many we know that over of 50 of people according to the cdc who were spreading the virus in the Community Look and feel fine. Thats why we want you to know that household gatherings, theyve been super spreader events of theyve been opportunities that have led to viral spread and its why we need everyone to continue to be cautious, its why we need you to think about what you did over the holidays, if you traveled, if you were in a gathering with a mask off with people outside of your household, you can take steps now to prevent you from being an asymptomatic spreader and turning into community spread. Theres still a chance to flatten the curve, goat a vaccine. Wouldnt you say that testing was one of the mistakes at the beginning . And even now you do have testing all over the country but its sometimes tough. I talked to many family members who were trying to get the fast test in order to feel safe at a thanksgiving dinner and it was three to five hours wait. It was maybe you didnt get the fast test. It was two, three days. Hasnt that been a vulnerability in how we as a country have dealt with this . Well, i certainly believe testing has been a challenge but i want people to know that we are now over 160 million tests. Weve tested more than anyone else in the world. I dont want to say thats a reason to pat us on the back. I want people to know testing is available. One of the things were trying to help people understand, particularly Public Health officials, is that you can use the new antigen tests which return results in 15, 20 minutes. They are just as effective at practically understanding who can spread the virus takes pcr test. We want them to aggressively use these tests so people can get a quick answer and they know whether or not to isolate or quarantine. You talked about the vaccines. Tell people where the optimism, the reality is as far as timing and when the average american could get a vaccine. I personally am incredibly optimistic. December 10th is when pfizer will be submitting its eua. Thats the plan. December 18th is when moderna is expected to submit the eua. Thats the plan for moderna. Within 24 to 48 hours from submitting the eua we have prom promised and set everything up so we can hopefully send out vaccines within 24 to 48 hours. Our plan is to start protecting the vulnerable. We want to immuneize with impact. It wont be enough for the whole country. If youre part of the public i want you to understand, it will probably be in the first quarter, beginning of Second Quarter next year before you can get a vaccine. But you can go to coronaviruspreventionnetwork. Org , sign up for a study and you can be getting a vaccine in a few days to weeks if you sign up for a study. Understand that, again, our strategy that were telling governors in states is to think about the vulnerable. If we protect them, then we can slow the spread of the disease and lower loss of life until everyone can get a vaccine, again in the first quarter, into the Second Quarter next year. And if the fda moves forward with authorization, people should be comfortable that its safe . Well, let me be clear. I have been working with all of these companies. Ive been following along closely. Im a doctor. And when they tell me i can get a vaccine, i will be first in line to get a vaccine because thats how safe i think this vaccine will be. I want people to understand, safety has not been compromised. Efficacy has not been compromised. What weve done is really thrown a lot of money at this problem to lower the risk for companies and weve moved them to the front of the line in terms of evaluation so their applications arent sitting on a desk. We decreased the a amount of time that is wasted in the process without compromising safety or review or efficacy and at 90 to 95 safe or 90 to 95 efficacy, what i would hate is if we had a vaccine that could end this pandemic and people actually didnt get it, wouldnt end the pandemic. This vaccine will have more people who have been tested than any other vaccine in history at the point of authorization, about 5,000 people are normally enrolled in vaccine trials. These trials have 30 to 60,000 people. So i feel confident its safe. I will get a vaccine when they tell me i can get a vaccine. Dr. Adams, i want to leave with this, this is an image that went viral in recent days. Its very powerful, its an icu doctor embracing a covid19 patient on thanksgiving day. This was from houston. Dr. Joseph veron, a dro a docton his 252nd straight day of work. Its a powerful image. There are thousands of doctors and nurses out there like dr. Veron on the front lines of the pandemic and they are really the true heroes throughout all this time. Exactly. And i want to thank dr. Christine kaminskis who is the resident physician taking care of my mother right now. She called me before i went on the air to tell me my mother was doing okay. Doctors, nurses, they need you, the American People, to take small simple measures that will protect them and get us to a vaccine. And i also of know youve got the new jersey governor coming on. Please tell him i said thank you. His wife and i have been working on eternal health, another thing weve been seeing people not paying attention to during the pandemic. 700 women die around the time of childbirth every year, twothirds preventable. Well have a call to action. The pandemic affects us in many ways. The frontline workers need us to do our part. Well, dr. Adams, we appreciate your time. Thank you for that time during these busy days and best of luck with your family. Thank you. Up next, well talk with two governors about the tough decisions theyre making to deal with the surge in new covid cases in the midst of this holiday season. Ill be home for christmas you can count on me ill be home for christmas if only in my dreams to syour body needs routine. System, if only in my dreams centrum helps your immune defenses every day, with vitamin c, d and zinc. Season, after season. Ace your immune support, with centrum. Tturning downhe temperature, dad. Ow. Thunk, lock the doors. Locking doors. Thunk, dim the lights. Dimming lights. [ croaking ] goodnight, honey. Goodnight. [ laughs ] thats my leg. Aw pft, pft. Evolve your home security. Get the peace of mind, safety and convenience of xfinity home. And dont forget to catch the croods, a new age now in theaters. Rated pg. Bret this week, millions of americans experienced the thanksgiving like no other with heightened restrictions put in place by governors across the country in response to spikes in coronavirus cases. Joining me now from little rock is arkansas governor, am sa hutchinson, vice chair of the National Governors association. Governor, welcome to fox news sunday. Thank you, bret. It is good to be with you today. Bret arkansas has been dealing with this and where do you think your state is, just in hospitalizations as of last week, friday, it surpassed 1,000 for the first time in your state. Tough number. Where are you . Well, the hospitalizations is the great concern and that is a Record Number of Covid Patients that weve had hospitalized. Hopefully it will stabilize. We have Hospital Group thats working with me very closely to make sure that we continue to have adequate hospital space for both Covid Patients, which is really a minority of those that are in the hospital, as well as caring for all the other healthcare needs that we have. During the last three weeks, since weve had this most recent spike, the people of arkansas are taking this extraordinarily seriously. I think we had a very subdued thanksgiving. Were very thankful but at the same time people understand the risk of large gatherings and the importance of social distancing. Were trying to take the approach that we want to make sure that our guidelines are followed. We increased our enforcement efforts. Weve worked with our hospitals to make sure that we have space there. Were not trying to shut down businesses that are doing a good job. We still have some limitations in spacing in our restaurants and gyms. Those are important to be enforced. But we realize you can really increase problems across the board if you start shutting down businesses, putting people unemployed as we go into the christmas season. Bret you mentioned enforcement. You have a statewide mask mandate. Youve had doctors write you a letter saying they would like you to enforce that. It states that it could result in 500 fine. Are you doing that on a mask mandate front . Well, in terms of our restaurants, our regulated industries, we have inspections. Were enforcing the mask mandate. The spacing requirement as well. In terms of the general population, we have to rely upon our local Law Enforcement and thats a gap because theres a lot of hesitancy about going out and arresting someone for not having a mask on. And so theres a warning thats given. Were working with our municipal officials to increase that education part of it and the compliance efforts on the mask. Everybody knows what needs to be done and we have that mask mandate in arkansas, vast majority are following that. We put millions of dollars into an ad campaign stressing the Science Behind the reason we need to do that. I think thats the right approach but were always looking for more ways to strengthen that compliance and make it better. Bret on the flip side, you have made clear and you just did that there will be no shutdown of businesses again. Well, i dont know if you ever say never. But thats the last thing we want to do and particularly shutting down a business that has worked hard for the last eight months to comply with every Public Health directive and they have safe positions within their restaurants and they have no cases coming out of it. And so that to me is just fundamentally wrong to say youre out of business now and your workers are unemployed, particularly whenever theres not any cares act relief package anymore. That money has been allocated. Weve tried to help our Small Businesses. But were not able to compensate someone for their loss of a job, for their loss of an income and shutting down a business. We want to be smart about it. We did put 11 00 p. M. Curfew on bars and restaurants, trying to break up the late night crowds. But at the same time, we dont want to overly restrict our businesses that are doing a good job out there because that just makes the problem worse. Bret should arkansas students be back in school physically as opposed to virtually . You know, i tell you a story. I know of a couple that are both working and the school had to go virtual and so what do you do with the children when both parents are working . They had them stay over at a friends house and the child was positive within days because of the friend. And so the important thing is that the school is a of safe environment. We have the option to go virtual and to pivot there based upon local decisions and local cases. But to say Carte Blanche were going to close our schools, were not going to have inclassroom instruction as an option would really have some adverse consequences that we dont need and are not necessary. And so we want to be able to keep those open with the option to pivot to virtual based upon local circumstances. But we want to minimize that effort when we can. Going to school is very important. On the Higher Education side, as our students come back, we want them to get tested. We want them to, if theyve been in a hot zone or if theyve been among people that are not protected, to make sure they isolate or they get tested as they come back. Bret i want to turn for a minute to the election. President trump, governor, as you know has not conceded the election. He continues to say it was stolen. Computer experts within his own administration have pushed back on that. Take a listen. There has been so much fraud weve uncovered as a campaign. Listen, people need to know going forward, its not just about right now. We need to kn