Offense rather than a crime to cross the border without documentation . Can we keep the hands up so we can seecu them. If someone is here without documents and that is their only offense, is that person to be deported . No. That person can be a part ofte this Great American experience. Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants . We shouldnt have 11 million undocumented people without a path to documentation. It makes no sense. I would reinstate the daca protection to the young people and i will further extend protection for the deferral of deportation for their parents. I would reform how we treat Asylum Seekers at the bordern f i would have a Community Based treatment where you are doing in the communities, where asylumseekers are given lawyers, where there o is a real immigration judges, not employees of the attorney general but appointed for life. Dan while democrats try to provide Health Coverage to Illegal Immigrants, they are failing to take away the Health Insurance of every american enforce the money government run medicare for all. Take a look at this. Who here would abolish the private Health Insurance in favor of a governmentrun plan . All right. We will have medicare for all. So the plan that senator sanders and i support medicare for all is how you get to single payer. I would call it medicare for all whot wanted. You make it available on exchanges. People can buy in. If People Like Us are right and it will be a mores. Inclusive and more Efficient Plan than corporate answers out there, then itll beay a glide path to the single payer environment. T dan how do the dems plan to pay for medicare for all on top of free higher education, on top of the free family pay we have to use air quotes. Nothing is free. On top of the universal basic income, unfettered immigration and green new deal. Where will they get the money . Well, theyre gonna take your money. Your taxes will go way, way up. Dont just take it from me. Just listen to the democrats, yes, the democrats from this weeks debates. Youve called for big new government benefits like universal healthcare and free college. In a recent interview, you said you suspected americans would be delighted to pay for taxes for things like that. People who have healthcare under medicare for all will have no premiums, no deductibles, no copayments, no outofpocket expenses. Yes, they will pay more in taxes. We must make public colleges and universities tuitionfree. And eliminate student debt. And we do that by placing a tax on wall street. And i would be going about eliminating Donald Trumps tax cuts for the wealthy. That is why we need to do a carbon tax and dividend. We had a valueadded tax at even half the european level it would generate 800 billion in new revenue. Dan earlier in japan, President Trump responded to the radical socialist agenda. And suggested that the Democratic Party might need to change its name. Watch this. President trump i have been watching the debates a little bit in between meetings. I wasnt impressed. But when you look at the socialism, and you look at what it can do, that is what you are talking about there. That has become like the socialist party. I heard theres a rumor theyre going to change their name to the socialist party. Dan joining us now is herman cain and former obama Economic AdvisorAustan Goolsbee. Austan, ill go to you first. You know its coming. Is this an admission that obamacare has failed . The obama team actually ran on not providing health care, u. S. Taxpayerfunded health care to Illegal Immigrants. Is this an admission, finally, that obamacare was a disaster . That is wrong on every count. But i do agree that the debates were too long. You clearly cherry picked from Bernie Sanders, from marginal candidates, one sentence from here, one sentence from there. And you are portraying something that wasnt what they said. M in the case of healthcare for people that are here with undocumented immigrants, that was, should people have access to healthcare, not that it would be given to them free. And not that they would take away somebody elses healthcare and give it to undocumented immigrants. That is completely absurd. That is not what they said in the debate. Dan i believe the government was governmentfunded healthcare. Hold on. E if a person goes to the emergency room dan they already have healthcare. If they go to the emergency room and undocumented they have to be treated. That is the law. W. Dan the moderators were clearly asking who would provide benefits to people in the country illegally . Everyone raised their hands. We didnt doctor it. Its not like we adobe photo shopped it. That is the only one of all the group agreed that you selected. Dan it was the whole group. It was if people could buy in. It wasnt that theyd be Given Healthcare free. They would be able to buy in. Dan it was the whole group. We didnt selectct anything. Herman, where is this work, we didnt cherry pick. These are their own words. We have Bernie Sanders running on the 70 plus marginal tax m rates, which is absurd. We have them running on expanded Government Spending with 22 trillion in debt. Can you tell me, mr. Cain, anywhere on earth the agenda of the heavy Government Spending, confiscatoryge taxation, where this has worked . Im surprised that austan is from the same planet that the democratic president ial wannabes are from. E theyre not from the planet earth. Secondly, medicare for all means no choices for all, period. Okay . Dan, that is an original sound bite you can use in perpetuity. Medical for all means no choices for all. All you have to do is look at obamacare. They called it the Affordable Care act. But it was the unAffordable Care act. And what happened to it because it failed is because it wasnt affordable for a lot of people. So austan is trying to defend an indefensible position relative to healthcare for all including illegals. They dont understand the word illegal. Dan austan, you are an economist. You are a smart guy. Can you explain to me how mathematically it will work if people who are here in the country illegally, in other words, no constraints on you coming in, you can come in the country illegally and still claim u. S. Taxpayer asset, to claim our healthcare assets . Explain how, mathematically friedman, the greatest economy of our lifetime i will explain it because as i said, you cherry picked it. Dan i did not cherry pick anything. I played their words. What are you talking about . You didnt because Vice President biden then explained why he voted for that. And he said its going to allow the people to buy in to the system. That you are going to collect taxes on those workers to pay in to the system. Dan how are they going to do that if they are here illegally . are we going to give them a Social Security number or a tax i. D. Number . They are here illegally. How are we going to do that . That happens now, dan. People who are here illegally pay billions of dollars of payroll tax. Dan we give them Social Security numbers and tax i. D. Numbers . I like how you switch that around. That is not what we do. You know that. They pay sales tax. They have a tax i. D. Number you can pay taxes. Oc dan here illegally. Billions of dollars from millions of people come in that way. Dan so what youre suggesting, i just want to nail you down on this, is we should wipe down on any illegal immigration process that doesnt make sense. Dan, that is the complete opposite of what i have ever said. You just put words in w my mouth that have nothing to do with what i said. I said that what all of those candidates said they were voting for was to allow people that were here undocumented to buy in to the new system that they were putting forward. Now, Bernie Sanders, you are right, is advocating a medicare for all plan to get rid of the private insurance. But the majority of thee candidates are for a medicare by choice, which, as you know, the Congressional Budget Office says is cheaper than the system we have now. Doesnt cost anything. And is supported by 74 of america, including the majority of republicans. Dan all right. Well, suggesting that medicare will be cheaper than a privately run system is absurd. You are an economist and you know that is not true. Ha the government bathes in inefficiency because cost and quality dont matter. You have heard of the Third Party Payer problem im sure. Let me go to herman. Ill get back to you, i promise. Mr. Cain, bill clinton ran on the era of Big Government being over. Bill clinton, well, im not a bill clinton fan, obviously, but it was restrained in the congress. Is that the party of kennedy and bill clinton, are they all republicans and dead and gone . The answer is no. Every one of those candidates that we saw last night and the night before, they favor the era of bigger government. Bigger government. More control government. That is what this is about. Austan can try to spin this all he wants to in terms of the words that he uses, but the fact of the matter is, it all boils down to they want to spend more of our money, those people that make money and have jobs. And spend it more for illegals. Why dont they worry about the citizens of this country more than they worry about the illegals of the country . Y . Why dont they do something to help secure the border. They finally passed something but it took them two months or more in order to pass something to do something about the border. You want to know why . T the people in the house and the senate heard from their constituents back home. That is how we get civilized. We get back on planet earth. They are nott on this planet. They are from an alternative universe, as Laura Ingraham has said many times before. We need to get back to earth, and we need to get back to looking out to the citizens who work in this country, rather than worrying about the illegals. Dan austan, to take it out to a bigger perspective, what is with the argument of higher taxes and healthcare. Explain what special knowledge that the government bureaucrats have to manage healthcare of 330 millionau americans, and manage the economy . If they were any good at that stuff, they wouldnt be in government position. They would be in a private business making money. We can argue among the three of us, we can have arg debate about what should be the role of government or how big should it be. You cannot deny that the overhead and cost expenses on medicare, which is one of the most popular Government Programs in the entire country, supported by massive majorities, those costs are lower than the private sector healthcare. Dan not true. Its because they have an older and sicker population. When you are doing is messing with the fractions, i know that trick. Im not messing with the fractions. Older and sicker should look worse but it looks better. Dan thats a trick everybody was on the democrat side. You know that, austan. I have to run. Its the opposite of a trick. Dan well have to continue another time. You are looking at live pictures of President Trump in osaka, japan, at the g20 summit. Where he is attending a womens work four session. If the president has anything to say, well bring it to you live. Herman, austan, thanks a lot. The liberal establishment media is in panic after the first debates. They are realizing the radical positions adopted by the party will cost them the general election against President Trump. Take a look at this. Last night was a disaster for democratick party. My only hope is people were not watching. Im texting with the Trump Campaign sources. I christmas. Compared to christmas. Gleeful. This is not your parents Democratic Party. This isnt even your older sisters Democratic Party. Its changed considerably. I dont see anybody on the stage that would beat trump. Virtually every democrat on the stage took positions to the left of barack obama. V playing right in to, at least from the campaigns view, their plan to portray democrats as simply too far to the left, effectively a socialist party. Dan as you heard earlier some of the radical proposals made by the democratic president ial hopefuls this week include decriminalizing illegal border crossing, taxpayers funded healthcare for illegals. How is that going to work out . Unlimited immigration and migrants are gonna get free healthcare . The math just doesnt work. Joining me now with reaction is louisiana senator john kennedy. Y. Senator kennedy, thank you for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. I just had Austan Goolsbee on and i was talking about the math here. Cant possibly work. Ki you obviously have some experience in this arena. How do you have open borders . Friedman said this a long time ago. You cant have open borders and a welfare state. The math doesnt work because orhe entire globe has a claim on u. S. Taxpayer assets. It cant work because it wont work. Your thoughts . I listened to part of the debates. I just found itt bizarre, dan. I mean, i know many of the candidates running, but i felt like i was listening to folks who were castro without the beard. Or cuba without the sun. I mean, number one, its clear to me that most of the candidates for president onf te democratic side hadnt decided that illegal immigration is a moral good. That the border is just a nuisance. I dont know that most americans believe that. I dont know a country in the world that doesnt have borders and doesnt want to know who is coming in to the country. If for no other reason than public safety. In terms of the free healthcare for Illegal Immigrants, weve got at least 11 million folks in our country illegally. We have 5,000 a day coming in right now as a result of the asylum laws. I dont know how we would pay for that. It would cost, by my estimation, 55 60 billion. Nine zeros a year. To give free Health Insurance to folks in the country illegally. And we cant afford what we are doing now with healthcare in america. That is why we have a 22 trillion debt. We borrow 1 million a minute. Not an hour. Not a day. A minute to run government. Right now, even before we added the Illegal Immigrants to the healthcare system, we are already Thelma Louise in that car headed toward the cliff. I just found this bizarre. Its basically, the democratic position seems to be everything will be free. Free education. Free healthcare. Free housing. Free love. Free kittens. I dont know. I just found it bizarre. Nk i dont know how they think we will pay for it. Dan i hate to h put out two friedman quotes but he said if you think its free you think your neighbor is paying for us be the joke is he thinks the same thing. The joke is were paying for us. On the senate side i wont ask you to talk about the house side. Are they starting to feel the heat a little bit on the immigration issue . It appears that the democrats are for nothing. A big zero. They dont stand for anything on immigration to help the problem. But i saw this week, on this appropriation to ease conditions on the border, there were 84 votes. Which says to me as an outsider, maybe you can clear it up and tell me if im wrong, they must feel heat on the democratic side saying hey, guys,s,be ladies, listen. Weve gotta stand. When cant say no to everything all the time. Am i reading this wrong . No, i think you are right, dan. I mean, for the longest time many members of the media and some of my democratic friends contended that we dont have a crisis at the border. We clearly do. We have 5,000 people a day coming in. And setting foot on american soil. And under the law, as interpreted by some of our judges, we have to turn them loose to america. That is not a week. That is 5,000 folks a day. We have a huge humanitarian crisis. The senate, democrats and republicans, worked out an arrangement to stem the humanitarian crisis web, about 4. 5 billion. Speaker pelosi, to her credit, went along with us. I thank her for that. She got it right. Once in ai row. Now, she had to fight off the shadow speaker, congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez. But in terms of willing to fix the problem, look, we could fix this problem in two and a half weeks. By changing the asylum laws. And right now, as interpreted by our courts, all you have too do if you are coming from the south is step foot on american soil, say the magic words, and you are turned loose in to the country and you are told come back to court in a couple of years. Obviously, many people dont. This just makes no sense. E dan i agree with you on that. But it could be fixed. Dan senator kennedy, n thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate your insights on that. I really appreciate it. Deep state abuse in the 2016 election. The biggest power and Corruption Scandal in the nations history. Yet, it didnt come up once in last nights debate. We will tell you why that was d a huge mistake when sara carter, gregg jarrett, and congressman andy baker up next. At Bass Pro Shops and cabelas during our new family summer event featuring free weekly skills workshops with crafts and backpack clips, plus games and activities, your adventure starts here. Motor . Its pronounced motour. 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