Transcripts For FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Suster

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren 20140501 23:00:00

Thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. That is it for special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. Greta goes on the record right now. Im greta van susteren, this is on the record and up first damage control at the white house. The talking points that ambassador rice used again produced by the Intelligence Community for members of congress and in the interest of having everybody use the same information, used by the administration and ambassador rice on those sunday shows were divulged and like so many of the conspiracy theories that have been promulgated by republicans from the beginning of this, this one turned out to be bogus. Oh, jay, dont go there. Now, that is dumb. Dont make fun of conspiracy theories when you are up to your eyeballs in not answering questions and providing information. Yeah, there is a mystery. Maybe a conspiracy since it only take twos to make a conspiracy. Who mysteriously added the video excuse to that false narrative about benghazi . That one that ambassador susan rice was the first to peddle and why the video story even after the Intelligence Community said there was no video . Thats a mystery. Maybe even a conspiracy. And who told the president well after the video theory was bebunct that he should continue to run with that. He said it on september 18th 20rbgs 12 on the David Letterman show. If that wasnt strange enough. He was still at it one week later on september 25th. He didnt correct the ladies of the view when they specifically brought up the video to it him. Why . Well, thats a mystery. Thats just for starters. There is so much more including why did the white house hide ben rhodes email until a Court Ordered them to sr. S. Sur ren item that. Thats a conspiracy maybe even a conspiracy. Jay, dont go pointing fingers like that. Thats not all. Voluntarily, in response to some bogus partisan claims made by republicans to reporters about what were what had happened in the compilation of the original talking points around the benghazi attack, we produced that material publicly, which showed that we were right and they were wrong, that they were mischaracterizing those emails and those points said. Oh, who, joe wouldnt go there either, jay. Whoa. As Ricki Ricardo used to say on i love lucy you and the white house have a lot of splaining to do. For starters why did it take a lawsuit and two years to turn over that ben rhodes email it was turned over information on benghazi. Now you are all doing the two step saying the ben rhodes email was not about benghazi but the broader picture who wants to be a millionaire is that your answer . Ben rhodes email released just last week. Whether it was released monday or a week ago monday or whatever, it doesnt change the fundamental facts about the socalled talking points which, despite great efforts by your News Organization and others, have been, you know, proven not to be a conspiracy. Whoa, jay, wouldnt be so dismissive about that one. The fact that the ben rhodes email was released a week ago by court order more than a year and a half after the benghazi attack makes a big difference. Its not just as you say, jay, whatever. You hit it. You hid the email. Why . Well, you start hiding stuff like documents that have been subpoenaed, as you did here, reasonable people get real suspicious. Lets face it people only hide the documents that are damning. So, no whatever jay but rather what else . What else are you hiding . But still no answers, just aversions. What this point makes is that these protests are outside of our embassy in cairo and cartombs and elsewhere. Fury over a video. Thats what your News Organizations were reporting. Thats what we understood to be true. And that was simply the point that was being made by mr. Rhodes. Whoa, did you listen carefully to what he just said . Note. The questions we have are not about caro, tunas or cartoon. It was benghazi. We have Unanswered Questions about benghazi. Speeding the media off to other embassies as he did is a diversion. Its not answering questions about benghazi. But, get this how much time has been spent focused on talking points that could have been spent on. [ laughter ] moving forward to help create jobs in this country and move the economy and grow the economy . How much time also has been spent obviously on show boats to repeal the affordable care act, is, something that the majority of americans have said clearly they dont want to happen. Now, jay carney is kidding, right . Blaming others for wasting time . Now, carney is trying to be clever, cast a diversion, blame others. There is only one reason we are still talking about benghazi, because the white house wont answer questions. Instead, they have pedaled fraudulent narratives, hidden emails and wont give us the names of the witnesses who were at the consulate at the time of the attack on september 11th so we can even talk to them. Its that simple. Fox news chief White House Correspondent joins us live from the white house, good evening, ed. Good to see you. Ed, tell me whats the sort of the temperature inside the white house in ben baez . They think we are all a bunch of crack pots trying to get information or are they running for cover . Well, look, i think they are definitely on defense. There is no doubt about it played the clips today. You played some yesterday. John carcinoma of abc news, jim acostas, cnn. People pushing on this story that were not a week ago or two weeks ago. They think they are going to get beyond this news cycle and be able to turn the page on it it lets see, i think in their defense the majority of the ben rhodes email was about cairo and the rest of the muslim world, not just focused on benghazi but you are certainly right that benghazi was the flash point here. So, a, to suggest that that was not the focus of everyones attention at that time is hard to sell, lets put it that way. Secondly, to now say that this wynn rhodes email was not about benghazi when in fact it was turned over us a you know because judicial watch, the conservative organization had filed a lawsuit with the state department and said woe want again baez documents the state department turned it over. Jay carney said i dont know the procedures at the state department for freedom of information requests. Im not saying he has to know process this is not some rogue agency. Its the Obama State Department that turned over the documents base on a lawsuit about benghazi. That suggests this document, maybe others, are related to that. Do you know who put the video into this whole narrative . Do we yet know that . I mean, its a Pretty Simple question. I assume the white house can can go back through its trail of emails and get that answer. You know, do they i mean, do you know who it is . No, we dont have a direct idea of that. I pressed jay carney about the time line today look at it this way. Back on 99 12 to was behind this as a terror attack. We are investigating. This working with the libyan government. Give us some time here. Then why two days later on 9 14 did you have ben rhodes write this email that said it was about the video. Thats what he was telling susan rice to say in the talking points a couple days later in the sunday talk shows. I dont know who put that idea out there. It was that email at least. We have got to investigate this, we are not really sure. Couple days later were pretty certain its the video. Few days later no actually it was a terror attack according to matt olsen the head of the National Terrorist center a few days later as you said on the view and letterman and few other places the u. N. Speech the president was talking again about the video and not about a terror attack. Now, is there something nefarious there . I just dont know. I think we should let the facts speak but why dont we know all of this . Ed, in reading the ben rhodes email at best. This is total damage control it an email designed to figure out how to get information out to the American People. They talk about policy to make sure it doesnt look like they have a weak policy. Its total damage control. It is not giving information to the American People. Well, on one hand i would say yes, that we have to remember the context that jay carney didnt talk about today, which is that this was september of 2012, pretty close just a few weeks before a critical reelection battle, obviously with mitt romney it came up in one of the debates. Let me stop you there. Thats what is so disturbing to me. We had four people dead. They werent just chattel. We didnt have four buildings that burned down in southeast washington or southwest washington. We had four dead americans they are doing damage control. They are not trying to inform the American People. Thats what is so disturbing. Yes. And no yes on the police politi, the election was coming up. They should have been straight and layed it all out there. Was it fog of war or deliberate attempt to mislead. We dont know those answers. I want to be careful as a reporter to not stress an opinion. They are within their right to spin it at least put a narrative out there that, you know, in the talking points that ben rhodes put out there. The president is a resolute leader. Is he a statesman, he stands up on these things. That may have been something to spin. We should acknowledge whether a democrat or republican is in the white house, they want to make their boss look good. Im not saying its right. But that politics. But you are certainly right that in this case, what probably draws the ire of a lot of people is that this was not just any political issue or shouldnt have been a political issue at all. Instead, it was four dead americans. And so thats why you want straight answers. I think we should also note jay carney pointed out today. Remember, it was mitt romney after the michelle attack who did put out a statement blasting the president. Was there politics at the white house . Yeah. Was there politics by mitt romney we should also note, yeah. Ed, thank you. Thank you. While jay carney was at the podium in the press briefing room. The House Oversight committee dancing for answers from a top military intelligence official. Alive. Usama bin laden is dead. Al qaeda is on the run. When really they are standing at the front door of our facility in benghazi getting ready to murder our ambassador and burn it down. Once the first word that we have problems at this annex. It could have lasted 12 hours, 24, 48 hours, so the idea that somehow looking back in hindsight and saying oh well, you know, we didnt wouldnt have got therein in time. That doesnt satisfy me. Am i wrong in that . No, sir. I didnt believe you are. Did they ever tell to you go save the people in benghazi . Not to my knowledge, sir. We didnt run to the sound of the guns they were issuing press releases. Ron deisnt a toes, good evening, sir gl p good evening, greta. What did you learn today that was new . I think we have learned in state Department Hearings that the folks in libya did not have any information about a Youtube Video. We heard the cia station chief say that the video wasnt an issue. Now we hear from the military Intelligence Community, the guy in charge or the deputy in charge of the after africon region that this Youtube Video was a total nonevent. They knew that it was an attack immediately. They suspected Ansar Al Sharia who was an Al Qaeda Linked group. There is really nobody who had any firsthand knowledge of this ever said that it was a Youtube Video that led to this. Okay. So there is no Youtube Video. What difference . Well, i think the difference is the administration. The higher ups at the state department deceived the American People when he this constantly went over and over again said to the parents of the fallen we are going to get the guy that made this yup video. They deceived the American People. I think thats important. Now, of course, in terms of the military response if it is a Youtube Video. Then that may be a different response thage physical it was a coordinated attack against american individuals the general testimony is very clear thats what they saw it as. They were not getting requests from the state department to do very much about it. All right. Speaker boehner is now calling on secretary of state kerry to testify on the benghazi emails withheld from the subpoena q i assume he is talking about the ben rhodes email that has been surrendered as part of the lawsuit and not provided when it was subpoenaed by the hill. Why now . What does he gain from that . Well, look the administration constantly stonewalls on this stuff and they havent had to pay a political price. Now the press is interested in this a little bit more because this conflicts the email conflicts with what jay carney has previously. So if we can provide additional pressure on the administration, maybe that they will stop stonewalling as much. But, look, i think we should add a select committee from the beginning because we all have alleluia these scatter shot investigations. Imagine if we would have had one select committee that could have hammered this day in and day out. I will tell you, im going to take the last word on that, but a lot of people in your party have asked for that from Speaker Boehner. And that has not been forthcoming. So maybe you better have a little chat with him if you think thats a good idea. Im taking the last word on that. We have tried. Thank you, sir. A lot of grilling going on today, but our next guest says lawmakers in the media are not asking the right questions about benghazi. Lt. Colonel oliver north joins us. Good evening, sir. You think they are asking the wrong questions, media at congress . Congress decided today, the first thursday in may would be the national day of prayer. Lets start with god help us because we are going to need that after what we saw today we need all we can get. I agree with the full select committee. The committee today did not ask the right question of the general level. He is the Senior Intelligence officer for after infantry come with responsibility for whats going on. Collection of dissemination for the military inside libya. What they have you should have d him wasnt about the talking point. We all know they lied. The talking points are bogus. What we know is why they did it because it was not the narrative that they needed for the election. What we dont know is why didnt they prepare for. This 9 11 is going to be a terrorist anniversary for the rest of our days on this planet. Its going to be a time for heightened awareness, increased attention, putting forces into position. The questions that should have been asked were general level did your staff warn people about 9 11 . General lufl, did your people communicate with the state department about the threats that ambassador stevens already communicated . One of the big problems, stephens had asked for help and never got it why . Catherine herridge reported on october 31st that on the 15th of august there was an emergency meeting convened by the u. S. Mission in benghazi. And that there was an august 16th cable marked secret that was sent to the state department and what it said in part is that al qaeda Training Camps in benghazi and consulate could not coordinate attack. Thats catherine herridges reporting october 31st, 2012. And catherine has kept this issue alive and has focused on the talking points and the bogus and the lies and the narrative of gee, we have got to show obama to be a great states men. The reality of it is this administration is criminally negligent. Whats a tough accusation. I know a Little Something about select committees. I have been there. I seem to remember do you know something. The fact is if they wanted to get the answers, they could, okay . Why but the republicans had full power in the house of representatives. They could have done that damn good question. And they should have done it you know what . They can do it now. Look, you know, this never should have dragged on for two years. Absurd. The longer it drags down the more suspicion it created about missing documents. Disenchantment. Some would say the Obama Administration is getting criticized for being political in how it responded and cook will that up crazy video thing. The others will say that the republicans doubt it would be politically bad for them to have a select committee. What are the American People supposed to do . The American People want and deserve the truth. They deserve accountability. Need to know that the recommendations made by quite frankly a committee that included tom pickerring as its cochairman is going to actually implement those reforms that are asked for so that it doesnt happen again. There has got to be accountability somewhere. Where are the people that were that perpetrated this attack . They are still wandering around inside libya and elsewhere. No one has been held accountable in our administration nor the perpetrators of the attack. There were four murders in georgetown here in washington that were unsolved from a year and a half ago would still be front page news. Absolutely. Wield still be wondering who killed the people in georgetown. Still a select committee and time for it and they need to do it. Why wont Speaker Boehner do it. You need ask him. Get him over here. I will ask him. He always has an explanation. Thank you, greta. Thank you. Sharyl attkisson has been all over the benghazi story from the very beginning. 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