Jimmy fallon, everyone. Thats it for special report, fair, balanced and unafraid. Good to be back. Greta goes on the record right now. This is a fox news alert. Missouri governor jay nixon has declared a state of emergency. The National Guard is moving in on ferguson due to violence reaching alltime high. In ferguson, angry protesters, riots, fear and chaos. Police using tear gas, rubber bullets and even making arrests in an effort to calm massive unrest a second autopsy has just been completed calling into question whether Michael Brown surrendering at the time he was shot. In moments Michael Baden will go on the record. A former federal agent in st. Louis before becoming a homicide detective. Ted williams on the ground live in ferguson. What are people saying to you there in ferguson . Hi, greta. I have got to tell you this place is like a volcano
waiting to erupt. On the main on the street, the man and the woman on the street were very pleased to find out certain circumstances about this shooting. But, they are still, most of them saying they want justice for Michael Brown. But it was interesting, greta, that i also found a lot of fairminded people out here who said that they also wanted the officer to be treated fairly in this case. But i got to tell you, it is right now the volcano can erupt any minute. Now, if you will look over my Left Shoulder here, you will see what is like a command center back there, greta. Back there at that command center a a lot of Law Enforcement officers. They are all prepared, getting ready for tonight. They are hoping that they dont have a a night like last night where they were in just a shear riot, where
there were gunfire. Where many people got hurt. Not only Police Officers but civilian citizens of this town. And, greta, one thick they wanted me to tell you you is that they believe that a lot of this is being caused by raber rousers that are not from ferguson but outside of ferguson. Who do they think are the rabble rousers . Are they Certain Group or certain people . It it appears as though that there are groups of people who are waiting until after dark to come in to ferguson and to create and cause problems. You have quite a few of the citizens here who have decided from talking to them that they are going to form their own task force to try to keep these revel rousers as they call them from creating havoc for the good citizens of this town there are a lot of good people
here and i have met a lot of good people, greta. Everybodys justice. Obviously justice takes a little time. Need to be investigation. I can understand the patience of so many. What do they say about that . Because thats why they have the protests. Yeah. Greta, this is a bigger picture. While everybody is concerned about the death of Michael Brown, and the circumstances of that death, there is an under current here that apparently has been percolating in this town for some time and all of a sudden like a volcanic eruption, it is now erupting. So, it isnt only about Michael Brown. Its about their collateral issues in this town. And they couple it all together and they are hoping that something can be done about it. All right. Ted, if you will stand by, i will come back to you in a few minutes. Ted, thank you. My pleasure. And today lawyers for the family of Michael Brown announcing the results of a private autopsy conducted by our frequent guest here on
on the record. Former chief medical examiner for new york city dr. Michael baden. There are six bullets struck him. Six bullets struck and two may have reentered and three bullets were recovered at the first autopsy. So according to our report. One thing is that there are abrasions around the right side much mr. Browns face, rubbing against the ground, which happened, as best we can tell, when after the gunshot wounds he fell flat down unprotected and got those abrasions. Otherwise, no evidence of a struggle. Dr. Baden confirming the unarmed teenager was shot at least six times, including twice in the head. Dr. Baden joins us right now. Dr. Baden, i always think you are the smartest, you are the best. You are the most experienced at. This im glad to have you be the one that conducted the autopsy. Thank you, greta. There are some things you didnt have. You didnt have the clothing, right . Right. Okay. And you dont have a a toxicology screen. Those are the two big things that you dont have yet. Thats right. Although i heard that the medical examiners report from the first been furnished to the prosecutor and, according to the the Washington Post, that it does say that marijuana was found in the toxicology. And that the findings of dr. Mary cases office, who is the chief medical examiner are very similar to the findings that we found as to the bullet tracks in the second autopsy. All right. In terms of the toxicology, and i will get to the Bullet Wounds in a second, does the fact that they found marijuana, does that exclude the fact that there might be other drugs in his system or
that the marijuana was laced with anything . Is that the final analysis or could there be more information to come in terms of the toxicology . I dont know, because i havent seen the toxicology report yet. Thats part of the autopsy and that should be coming to the family in the next day or two. And very important with marijuana is the levels of the different drugs that are present in marijuana to have an opinion as to whether or not he might have been affected by the marijuana so that he may have been acting in a crazy way and may have done things to the Police Officer that normally he would not have done. All right. Which would be the issue that might arise. All right. The advantage of having the clothes and i have learned this from talking to you over the years is that there may be a gunshot residue on the clothes that might be sort of helpful in determining distance between the end. Gun and a the body. Now, you didnt have the clothes, but was there
anything on the flesh that would give you any sort of hint as to distance . No. Yes. The flesh around the bullet holes of entrance were clear. There was no gunshot residue, no stippling, no powders present around the entrance wounds, which indicates that the muzzle end of the weapon was a foot or two away at the time of discharge. It wasnt a close contact. It wasnt very close as would have to it be the case if they were fighting inside of a car. Now, the clothing though, as you point out, can filter out gunshot residue, so that it would be important to know and the crime lab, im sure, in los angeles county, in st. Louis county, im sorry, is doing is looking at the built perforations of the clothing to see if there is any gunshot rest due
there. And that will be important. In terms of the actual wounds, i notice that from the drawing that there are a number of Bullet Wounds to the right arm. Would that be i know there has been at least some eyewitness testimony say that his hands were raised. Are those wounds because its hard to tell from the diagram consistent with the hands raised or not . They are consistent with hands raised. They are consistent, yes. With the arms, with the arm forearm and right forearm and arm being raised because they were on the right arm. But they are also consistent with the arms being at the side. So, there could be either way from the gunshot wounds themselves in the arms. Are they consistent with having coming at someone aggressively . Because i know there is that wound on the head, which could either be shooting when someone is down or perhaps someone is charging, either one. Can you in any way sort of reach a decision whether or not the wound on top of the head and the arms would be consistent with someone being shot as is he going
down or someone being shot as he is charging . These wounds could be, again, done in either way, because the head is so mobile up and the arm, the shooters arm is so mobile, that they can have many different positions in which you get the same bullet track in the head. But what we can say is that when the bullet wound at the top of the head entered Michael Browns body, he immediately lost consciousness, collapsed, and died. The mom wanted to he know, for example, did he have any pain and suffering . Not after that gunshot wound. And he was then immobile and collapsed immediately on that shot. Are we to assume and i realize that there is assuming sometimes a huge mistake but that that would be the last shot if thats the one that took him down since thats the fatal one or not necessarily . That would be the fatal one and the one that took him down, yes. I assume it to be the last one because the discharge the discharge of the weapon would stop when he collapsed. We can tell just from the Bullet Wounds of the arms and the rest of the body because he could be down and Bullet Wounds could have still injured the arm and forearm are in a similar way. But i think thats unlikely. But the point you make, greta, also, is that he died because of that bullet wound in the head and brain. The other five wounds would not have been lethal in themselves. How close, based on the fact and i realize you dont have the clothes that would be very helpful in looking for gunshot residue, but from what you said is that it was more than a foot away but you cant say whether it was 2 feet . 3 feet . 4 feet or 6 feet . Thats right. It would be as close as a foot but no closer . The muzzle could be but no closer, right. And he could be as far away as 3 a feet, and after a foot, it would be the same 2 feet to 35 feet would be o would look the same. No powder would get on the body. All right. What question should i be asking you that i havent asked you that would be sort of instructive or i have covered the main ones until we get more information . Oh, well, to bring in a little bit of the law, you could ask hows come there is a third autopsy being done and could the government perform an autopsy without the permission of the family . I will ask you that and, of course, he has also been embalmed, too, which makes
it somewhat difficult. Yes. He was embalmed before i did the second autopsy. Whats interesting is that the government, the medical Examiners Office and the police and the can do a order an autopsy when somebody dies, even if the family objects to it. But once thats finished and the body is returned to the family, the family has total control over the body and even if president obama wanted an autopsy done, a third autopsy, if the family didnt agree, the only thing that could happen would be a court order by a judge to do it. But the family here requested. They wanted the fbi to do a third autopsy. Because they feel that this will show how improper the shooting of their son was. Dr. Baden, always nice to see you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, greta. All best. Good to see you. And the most i do lent night to date. Tear gas, rubber bullets, riots, arrest. The National Guard moving in ferguson. Mike mike tobin live in ferguson. Mike . Can i tell you, greta, as we look around ground zero for all the demonstrations, the numbers are considerably smaller. That is largely because of the police technique. What they are doing is not letting anyone form up a group, loiter, congregate. That seems to be where the trouble boils out of. So what is happening, they are letting people come out and demonstrate but they are keeping them moving along. They dont let anybody hang around, so that has thinned the numbers considerably. You see a much larger Police Presence tonight than taksim previous nights. We did see arrests earlier in the evening. We got video of that they come up on somebody, bind them up and get them off of the scene. Police never explain why the person is being arrested. Not the officers there on the scene. You have got to get that information from the pio. The demonstrators who are
out there will always say it was unjust. The reason this person or person wasnt doing anything wrong and the police came up on them and bound them up. Of course, what they are trying to avoid is to get another big scene of another big clash like they had last night. State Police Captain ron johnson saying with all the molotov cocktails with all of the barricades and bottles being thrown they had to move in last night. They had no option o. So you had this scene repeat one more time with a big clash on the street. The real consistent thing we are seeing, every time the authorities out here take a step to try to restore the peace, it generates more anger. We know now with the National Guard arriving, that generated another demonstration. People marched on one of the state buildings and last i heard they are still there. So whenever you see the authorities try to make an effort to generate the peace, it generates more anger, brings more bodies out on the street. Contrary counting myself, it looks like the numbers are thinner tonight, greta. Mike, we were talking a
moment ago to ted williams who used to be a federal agent in st. Louis. He heard on the street that there are people outsiders coming in and causing trouble. Do you have that sense that there are outsiders coming in . If so, are they part of any group or who are they . Absolutely. Its interesting that the governor has said that they are organizing. Usually what i see is these outsiders. You see these parking lots that are kind of on the flanks of the road. They will hang around up here. And lay low until the sun goes down and then they will get inside the crowd of demonstrators. You see some of them with their faces covered in the crowd of demonstrators. I cant say that the people i have seen are the ones causing the problems because it all happens very fast. But you do see people who kind of lurk off to the sides and make their move and these are the people that the governor and state Police Captain have said are the ones who infiltrate the crowds and start the trouble. Mike, thank you. Coming up next, a friend of Michael Brown who was walking with him when
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throat, okay. So you know. Unprovoked. That starts conversation. Was that unprovoked . They are arguing. The first instance he sees big mike he reaches out and grabs his throat he . Doesnt have a conversation with him . Well, heres what happened. They are walking down the middle of the street. They see the officer coming in the opposite direction. As he approaches them, they slow, the officer slows. He tells them get the f on the sidewalk. Dorian says i live right up the street here, officer. We just going to keep on going. And they walked past him. By the time they get to the end of the car, the police car, the officer throws the car in reverse and speeds backwards and catches back up with them. Then they start arguing. He says something to them and they starting ing. They are close at the car. The officer then reaches out of the car with his left hand and grabs mike brown. Mike is big, is he like 64, 270. And