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2,000 since since january januan 31,000 will will probably proban grown even even larger. Larger. F thank thank you you very verf greta. F and and a a first, first, fon first time time ever, ever, an n president will will personally n lead a a u. N. U. N. Security secn meeting. F that happens happens on on wednn when president president obama n the discussion discussion on onn growing threat threat from fromn terrorist fighters. Fighters. F on wednesday wednesday presidenn will also also try try to to sen isis battle battle plan plan ton world leaders. Leaders. F ambassador john john bolton boln us. F good evening, evening, sir. Sirf you know know the the u. N. U. N. N anybody. F what reception reception is is n president going going to to getf i i dont dont think think n to get get much much of of a a n thats going going to to be be f he has has opportunities. Opporf his address address to to the tp assembly on on wednesday. Wednef will get get attention attention the world. World. F its his his best best opportunn make the the case case why why n to be be destroyed. Destroyed. F there are are also also any anyn meetings with with foreign foren leaders all all of of who who hn gathered here here for for the n opening of of the the general gn assembly to to put put meat mean bones of of the the supposed Sun Coalition to to go go beyond ben rhetoric of of supporting suppon efforts to to take take care can
and say say publicly publicly wn concrete commitments commitmentf and then then finally finally tn meetings, which which is is rean the bulk bulk of of the the busn that takes takes place place thn to try try and and expand expann enhance the the coalition coalid itself. F but i i dont dont think thinkn Security Council council is is n do much much that that is is gon helpful. F this isnt isnt the the first n american president president han presided over over that that hon once the the president presidend h. W. Bush bush in in 1991. 1991f how how do do you you descrin coalition . F i mean, mean, when when we we sn were going going to to get getn coalition of of countries, counn that mean mean people people arn to be be fighting fighting siden going to to actually actually bn planes next next to to ours . Ouf or are are those those the the n saying atta atta boy, boy, let n how it it turns turns out. Out. F those those are are the the n standing next next to to you yon the Action Action goes goes on. F thats the the problem problem p president has has an an opportun to overcome overcome this this n show that that beyond beyond fln rhetoric there there are are ren hard, palpable palpable militarn commitments to to get get involn to do do something something hen isis consolidates consolidates n control over over this this tern
thats really really the the sin great britain. Britain. F thats the the risk risk every n that goes goes by. By. F their military military position strengths and and ours ours weaf i i of of course course and n people watching watching whatsn on in in turkey turkey right rif over 130,000 130,000 refugees rn over the the border border and n syria to to turkey turkey over n weekend. F they have have almost almost isd 1. 5, 1. 7 million refugees refugn there in in the the last last sn months. F i mean, mean, this this cant cn going on on without without sorn catastrophic problem. Problem. F turkey cant cant absorb absorn people. F and you you have have got got tn discontent within within turkeyn tell me me where where we we arn there. F glel with with i i think think n that isis isis is is still stild in ethnic ethnic cleansing clean the border border with with turn that although although their thn offensive has has been been blun perhaps in in iraq, iraq, theirn military capabilities capabilitn syria continue continue to to ef i think think the the refuse ren pressure that that theyre theyn putting on on turny turny is is pressure theyre putting on turkey is intended among other things to get the turks to come
to terms with them and to acknowledge that theyre really not going to be a forceful opposition. So from isis point of view, the refugee flows work to their bfrt. They know, its cynical, its contrary to humanitarian norms but thats the least of isis problems. Over the weekend, about 49 of the kidnap victims were rurped to turkey that isis had been holding and the presumption they were returned in turkey lying low. If we dont have help from turkey in terms of giving us access, that makes it a much bigger challenge for the americans and anybody else who is part of our coalition, am i right . Absolutely. Just as teurkey didnt help us n the overthrow of saddam hussein, its a problem for the west and it underlines the fact up until now, theres been no u. S. Military activity against isis in syria. That could change, but right now they have a safe haven and theyre taking advantage of it. Is turkey the main buyer of the black market oil from isis, which is at that reduced price . Where isis is making money hand over fist already, but with an unlimited market, if turkey is going to continue to buy it, it makes it exceedingly difficult to pinch them. This is a very concrete test of turkeys sincerity and willingness to be a full participant in crushing isis, is to cut off the flow of oil and other commodities coming out of isis held territory and they have not done that so far. How do we get turkey on board. Is there any way since theyre so key to this . The real answer is for president obama to engage in a little bit more diplomacy with the leader who is supposed to be his best friend in the world among leaders, the president of turkey to say this instability, the threat along the border with syria is only going to grow worse if a new terror state,
mainly the islamic state, takes root there. This is in turkeys interest to work with us and the fact they have nauot done so demonstrated how radical he is personally. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Leon panetta publicly criticizing president obama saying he and several members of the National Security team in 2012 advised the president to arm the modern Syrian Rebels but the president did not. He had a fear if we started providing weapons, we wouldnt know where the weapons would wind up. My view is you have to begin somewhere. I think in part we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. And joining us, our political panel. Rick klein, the Washington Post wes lowry, and ron fournier. Why now is secretary panetta, i know he has a back coming out, but is that the only reason. Whats clear soome, in
alternate history, its pretty safe ground for democrats to rally behind. You see it from secretary panetta, also former secretary of state hillary clinton. Theres a lot of folks with political future s on their min who want it on the record to say we advised something differently. To have panetta and clinton on the same page and others as well, what were seeing is, hey, look, we had a different view here, and dont blame us if this all goes to hell. I cant believe, it looks like theyre throwing him under the bus. Its not looking like anything but that. Of course, and you see president obama getting this from both sides as well. You expect it from your political opponents. Exactly, but Foreign Policy on the left is something where you have a lot of kind of monday morning quarterbacking because Foreign Policy is messy. Its harder than domestic policy where you can measure broad economic policies, republicans, Foreign Policy is a lot trickier because in a lot of places
youre talking about areas of the world that we dont understand in the same way, talking about forces we dont have our arms around and also military decisions that sometimes a decision that looks like the right decision now, a year from now we know for a fact might not have been the right one. I guess in some ways and views, to borrow a term, theyre making it look pretty jv, because if everybody advised him to arm the moderate serial rebels in syria and he didnt, and secretary panetta also said he was opposed to the iraq withdrawal as it was done, and theres mow more of a condemnation of the president s Foreign Policy than those two statements. Part of this is you go back to the beginning. The country wasnt honest about how it got into iraq and wasnt smart about how it got out of iraq. Honest or smart . Honest or smart getting out . Not very smart getting out. Honest getting out . Its much easier to say we were dishonest about getting in than dishonest getting out. Theres been some fudge, for
example, Ground Troops, saying there wont be Ground Troops in iraq. There already are. The biggest problem was how fast we came out and the big vacuum we left behind, and the president now is facing the natural kind of second guessing youre going to get from the left, as rich and mr. Lowry said, but also you have the generals coming after the president. Part of that is, you know, we have a system of government where we dont want the girls. We shouldnt have the generals, everything they want being done, that we do leave the decision with the commander in chief, and there are no obvious right or wrong here. Rick, i think its pretty significant. I dont see anyone supporting the president. You have the generals and, i mean, you have the generals, the former cabinet officers, people in the room. Now we have people dying in isis. Is anyone saying the president made the right decision . Not to be too flip about it, but sometimes the president doesnt seem to be agreeing with the president. We heard from Samantha Power over the weekend, the president hasnt made the decision to do the air strikes. I think theres a lot of uncertainty around this and a
lot of worry about whether this is the right course, how to gauge it, how youre going to use the international community. Theres a possibility of air strikes happening while hes at the United Nations looking for support for air strikes. Theres so many variables, but in terms of the political sport, we saw a different kind of the responses, you have generals coming out against you. Thats really bad. Well, but you know what . I think it would be bad if we didnt have generals coming out against him. If we didnt have a debate about this. Wes is right, this is not an easy call to make. And i think rick is right that the president has made it harder on himself, and one of the better examples of that was just a few weeks ago when he said arming the rebels was a fantasy, and somewhere along the lines it becama policy and they havent explained when or why that happened. Panel, thank you. This is a fox news alert. A massive manhunt for a cop killer in pennsylvania. Theyre hot on the trail of the survivalist they believe gunned down one state trooper and
wounded another. Rick . And greta, a lot of activity again here tonight. Roads blocked in the area. Heavily armed police and federal ageents continued to roll up and down the hill behind us, which leads to a temporary command post run by the Pennsylvania State police which is coordinating this massive search involving hundreds of local and state police as well as federal agents including several fbi s. W. A. T. Teams and up to three helicopters at a time headi flying over our heads, using heat radars. Police have said repeatedly theyre closing in, and over the weekend, they found, they believe, evidence of the man in the wood. An ak47 and other items and we heard from sources they believed they were getting closer, but the man is still believed to be armed and on the loose. School is closed for the fourth day today. And a lot of people were either stuck in their homes or stuck outside of their homes and couldnt get back in because of the road blocks and security
concerns. We met a local man who told us he worked work for three straight nights because authorities wouldnt let him leave his house. Greg wilson shared some pictures with us he took from inside the house of heavily armed Police Outside his windows, in his yard, checking out his treehouse and his property. He said it cant be over soon enough. A couple hours ago, police did escort a number of neighbors including wilson up to hill back to their homes. That means the man could have spent at least one more night of freedom in the woods. Rick, is he from around there . Does he have friends or family . And what was his motive for this . He lives with his parents just a couple miles from here. And spent a lot of time in these woods. In fact, family says he would disappear for days at a time to hone his survival skills here in the poconos. So basically, this was his backyard. His friends, apparently, were these war reenactors and he would play soldier in many cases, and they believe that he developed a hate for law
enforcement when he was arrested for stealing memorabilia at a world war ii reenactment in new york. He spent three months and jail, and since then, he has had this hatred for Law Enforcement and apparently developed his plan to shoot and kill state troopers over a period of months if not years and may have tastashed a t of stuff in the woods to help sustain him in the search period. Rick, thank you. Our nations nightmare was just confirmed by the Obama Administration. Senior Obama Administration official says some of the america