Transcripts For FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Suster

FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren October 16, 2014 23:00:00

American diplomats. Shows you how much it has clapd collapsed. Latin american countries chose this country to be their representative on the security council. Fair, balanced and unafraid. Thanks for having us in. This is a fox news alert. At any minute now the first dallas nurse infected with ebola will be taking off headed to the National Institute of health. Youre looking at live pictures of the ambulance taking nina pham, the nurse, to the airport. Pham will not be traveling by commercial airline, but if a private jet. Shes being moved to mih, one of four u. S. Hospitals with a special bio containment unit. Meanwhile, the second victim remains in isolation at Emery University hospital. Tonight were getting new information about the people who had contact with nurse vincent during her trip to ohio. In just minutes youre going inside a lab trying to wipe out ebola. The Walter Reed Army student of research. They just started testing bo ii vaccine on humans. Who volunteers for that test . Youre about to find out. First, Live Team Coverage of all the ebola development from be thet sa to atlanta to dallas. We begin with rickbook live in be thes da. It would be a two or three hour flight from dallas to mih, right . Reporter thats right, yeah. Shes going to arrive from frederick, maryland. Thats about 30 miles up the street from where im standing now. At this point shell be escorted to this building behind me. This is a specialized Clinical Study unit. Shes going to go inside this d to, in fact, greta, a lot of Infectious Diseases. Shell be taken inside of an isolation unit. There are staff member who is are there right now. I just talked to a Public Information person. They indicate the entire staff in her wing are in place right now and ready to begin her treatment as soon as she arrives tonight. I asked them whether or not this hospital will stay in operation during that time. They said absolutely. Shell be taken to a particular wing, and this will not interrupt any operations here at this particular hospital. But as for the media, were told to get out of here. This is probably i can be the last time i can talk at this location. Theyre telling us to leave in 20 or 30 minutes, to clear for her arrival. Yeah, they are prepared for her arrival. They understand she is leaving dallas as we speak, in just a few moments. Shes supposed to be treated, by the way, that starts possibly tonight at 4 00. Experimental treatments may start as well on her. Greta . Rick, thank you. And i guess get out of there in 30 or 30. Thank you, rick. And the second nurse battling ebola is in isolation at emery university hospital. While she fights for her life, the cdc is fighting criticism over why Amber Vincent was allowed to board a plane. Jonathan. Good evening, greta. For now Emery University is releasing no information on Amber Vincents condition, citing patient Confidentiality Laws and regulations. When you look at the video of vincent arriving in atlanta, shes seen walking on her own power, suggesting shes beginning her treatment in the early stages of the disease. This is important. Public Officials Say early treatment appears to produce Better Outcomes in ebola patients. Emery runs one of the nations four special isolation units to treat patients with serious Infectious Diseases. Youre likely to see local hospitals transfer future ebola patients to these units instead of trying to treat them on location after seeing the two nurses at a respected dallas hospital wearing full protection could still become infected. Nurse vincent reportedly informed the cdc she had a low grade fever of 99. 5 degrees before an Agency Official cleared her to board a commercial flight monday to return from a Wedding Planning trip in ohio. She reported no other symptoms to this the cdc. However, a federal source tells fox news john Roberts Vincent told family members she had to cancel several ooents with her bridesmaids because she wasnt feeling well. Greta . Oh, brother. Thats a new twist to it. Jonathan, do you know why the other nurse is headed to nih . Who will be on the air . Do you know why she didnt go to emery . Well. These are two of the four biocontainment units they have scattered around the country. I dont know why officials made the decision to send her to any one particular of these four containment units, but we are told it was done in consultation with hospital officials in dallas as well as federal officials consulting with them from the cdc and also consulting with the patient herself, greta. Extra demand they didnt need on the emery people to have both in one place. Jonathan, thank you. And nurse vincents commercial flight from dallas to ohio adding to the fears of ebola spreading. Today schools in tbs and ohio closing as a precaution. People are scared. Right now an ambulance taking nurse nina pham to the airport from her flight, thats a live picture. Fox news correspondent lisa kuna is live in dallas with the latest. Alicia . Reporter hi, greta. Yes. There were several nurses standing outside as she was leaving the facility with signs that said we are with you. With regard to the school shut down, these are temporary in both ohio and texas. And it all goes back to this commercial flight that Amber Vincent took the night before she checked herself into the hospital with a fever. Some passengers were students who went to schools in the days after. They went to school in bell county, texas, for a couple of days. The classrooms and buses will be disinfected. Some parents complain the kids should be quarantined immediately. They say its going overboard. In ohio, two more schools closed after it was discovered one of the Staff Members may have been on the same plane that vincent was on. Not the same flight, but the same plane that was used after vincent flew. And the child of a woman who had contact with vincent was praised in quarantine with her mother as a precaution. Thats in ohio. The plane is now in denver being sanitized. Carpet and seat covers being replaced near where vincent sat. All 132 passengers have been tracked down and are being monitored. Doctors here in texas as well as the cdc have really emphasized that its not that easy to contract ebola, unless you come into close contact with someone who is in that infectious stage, and you come into contact with their bodily fluids, as these nurses did. Greta . Alicia, thank you. And the first test on humans has just started. And today, we went inside that research lab to find out more about the vaccine being tested on 39 healthy volunteers. Can you get ebola from the vaccine . Absolutely not. All three of you say no. No. Thats a great sign. How do you know if its successful . Well, to know if its successful or not would require a challenge. Thats something we cant do on the individuals. So right now we have preclinical data were going to use. And thats been encouraging. It doesnt necessarily predict whats going to happen with real people. I understand this is made in canada originally . Its a complicated pedigree. 100 successful in animals, right . So far . Okay. But that doesnt necessarily mean for humans. Right. Why not . Well, theres the saying. So mice and ro dents sometimes lie a lot. And monkeys sometimes lie a little less, because they dont always translate to what the Human Experience is. And so although it can inform Decision Making and it can help us choose a certain pathway, the only way to truly know what the Human Experience is going to be and what the response to the vaccine and response to a natural infection will be is to do trials in humans and in places that the disease pandemic is circulating. Which brings me back to my question. If someone goes through the experimental vaccine after some period of time and the person is gone through whatever you have to, how do you know the person is immune from ebola . Is there a test you can do on the person . So we will get what we call, you know, immune testing. Look at antibod theieantibodies. Look at how the cells in their body react to the vaccine. We can compare those to the Animal Studies. We wont be able to say for sure. Well have a good idea based on reactions and other studies but we really have to compare to either Animal Studies or studies in an demic areas where people are exposed to these diseases. Can you be like 80 sure or 90 sure or 50 sure . Whats a good idea that the person will be . Thats the Million Dollar question. It really p depends on what type of vaccine youre working on, what the past experience has been with that vaccine. In this particular case with this particular ebola vaccine, we dont have a test that we know, yes, this predicts a human will be protected against the natural ebola infection. We dont have that available to us. We have to make inferences. And educated getszs about how this is how the persons immune system responded. We think this can be predicted in discussions with fda and the sponsor. It merits going onto the next step or phase of testing. Could it be you and i both take the vaccine, and it might be successful for you and not for me . Its possible. So it varies from person to person . It does. For each individual it boils down to risk and reward. Why do you pick 39 . Any reason . Thats a common number for phase one clinical trial. Not 40. Not 35 . Well, the way this particular trial was constructed well tend to get the vaccine in the groups. So explain how it happens. This showed up monday, right, to get the vaccine. All 39. Some got placebo . Yeah. We have three dose levels. The study is designed for safety. We want to make sure that the vaccine is safe, and, you know, and thats also the smaller siz of the study, again, safety is priority number one. So we start were a few number of individuals, two or three on the first day. See how they do. If they do fine, bring in another few people the next day or two. Vaccinate them. Watch the first group for approximately a week. If they do fine, we do the rest of the individuals in the host of people. In total 13 people. Then well get the day to an outside independent committee to review it. The decision is typically fairly quick. If people have tolerated the vaccine well. Theyll look at the data and say its okay to increase a level and start with higher dose level and repeat the process again. What is the term of this . How long is this trial peert going to go on for testing vaccines . Assuming everything is successful as you go on . A month sflong two months . Three months . The total study duration is six months to follow people from time of vaccination until final followup to see how their immune responds. We could potentially, if everything were to go perfectly, inject people within the first, say, approximately two months, but theres always variables in being able to determine that. So two, maybe three months. Is that standard with a vaccine . Is that generally what you run it on . You know, it depends on the type of vaccine. It depends on the dosing schedule of the vaccine may be. Some you need one dose. Some you need two. Some you need three. Theres typically an early time point and a later time point. The three of who have placebos dont know this is done blindly for them. No, the investigators are blinded. Everyone is blind. Do you know who it is . No. We have a few select people that are unblinded that dont interact with the investigative team. But otherwise, both the the investigators and subject are blind as to what they receive. Side effects of this . They have a sore arm . Is it injection . It is an injection. Its a live virus. So we would expect side effects like other live viruses. So mild fever, headache, muscle soreness, and injection site soreness. Those kinds of things. I thought this was not an ebola virus, but a gene. It is a virus. It replicates, but a small portion of the virus has been taken out and the ebola gene has been inserted. So when it replicates, it will put a pro teen around the sigh rus and trick the body into thinking its infected with ebola. How is this different than the study at nih . The construct of the vaccine is different. So this vaccine combines two ingredients, and their vaccine combines one different ingredient. So really the construct is different. The the metds of testing and the safety of plans put in place and types of immune responses we measure are similar. Now, i was warned do not touch anything in this lab. I can barely move my hands away from my body. If i were to touch this, all three of you said you wouldnt be afraid to do this. But if i put my hand in it, what happened . Nothing orsome sng. We would not like you to put your hand into it. Im not touching it. Like i said, im not moving my arms from my body at this point. So the focus is on given that the focus is safety, and we dont know entirely cant be entirely sure what the exact safety profile is, we err on the side of safety. Wile we think that the vaccine is very safe, the virus is typically not a passage that primarily infects people. And certain steps in the design have been taken to what we think well do, it will make it a little less pathogenic. A little safer. We cant be entirely sure. We have to treat it if it were the twaul virus. And so what he with do is warn people that again, they should note if they have symptoms of live virus infection. And well be asking them if they have virus in the blood from the vaccine or if, in their saliva. In the event this is the vaccine were all hoping for, how fast can you reproduce it . Were not manufacturing. Its manufactured in germany. But i know theres a group of individuals talking about where it can be ramped up. Those as of yet are unknown. With zmapp, the experimental drug given to dr. Brantly, we dont have it. It takes a while to get it. Is this something we can speed up faster . Are we talking years . Or weeks or months . To do mass produce this . I dont think were talking years. But there are procedures in place to manufacture in a very specific way to make sure its very safe and pure and accurate in terms of the dosing. So those things take time. And the procedures have to be followed and cant be compromised. So where do they get volunteers for this vak teen test . You can see the rest of our interview online. And tomorrow night on the record takes you inside another lab working to combat ebola. And right now, you are looking at live pictures in dallas. An ambulance taking nurse nina pham to the airport for her light to nih in maryland. And straight ahead, the cdc is tracking dozens of Health Care Workers. Thats not all. Theyre tracking more than 100 Airline Passengers possiblily exposed to ebola. And theres more. Now Health Officials want to hear from another group of people at risk. Find out who they are next. And many of you are asking about bentley. Well, youre going to hear how bentley is doing straight from the kind people taking care of him. Plus, fan gate. Now this is pretty wild. The candidates in the florida governors race with the most bizarre start to their debate. Shabing a brown grats bo is, you never jim jam river flab dry ris. Bliss pounds hazy dray . Drywall shboop leaver murray. Hey, big bog panorama corn salabaty . Dude, squibble bits. Mareyayzee. Mormal snap jebby rolban jebby deetle flosh. [laughter] eh. Nows the time to get in the loop. Just look for our fall tv picks with xfinity on demand. Huh. Quickly find the seasons hottest shows, huh. Quickly find the seasons hottest shows, with a handpicked collection all in one place. Only from xfinity. This is a fox news alert. Youre looking at live pictures from dallas, texas. Nurse nina pham arooiing at the airport. Of course, were also waiting remarks on ebola from president obama. And right now 48 dallas residents who had contact with ebola victim Thomas Duncan and 732 passengers who flew on a commercial flight with Amber Vincent and anyone in the ohio bridal shop that shin sent went to in ohio last weekend. The cdc is adding to the list of people its tracking. Who is at risk of ebola. Dr. Linda helpeded treat dr. Kent brantly in liberia. Good to see you. You left when . At the beginning of august. When you were there, were you treating people for ebola . Thats correct. And youre the ones who gave the injects to dr. Brantly . Thats correct. I guess we can all agree youre an expert on this, whether you want to be or not. We read the numbers ofst all these people being quarantined, is this a smart thing . Are we overreacting on who were monitoring . So, there are a couple of things that we know about ebola and how its transmitted. One thing is you can get it by being in direct contact with body fluids. How about a sneeze . Absolutely. Absolutely. The one thing we need to remember, though, is when you first start developing systems, your vie rad load is very low. You are contagious. Youre not as contagious as in the later stages when youre bleeding and producing a lot, and the amount of virus in your blood is a lot higher. So mr. Duncan was discharged and admitted to the hospital, and unfortunately the nurses that took care of him in the later stages of his illness were probably more likely to get infected. Its not clear whether or not the quality of Infection Control measures that were put into place were good enough to actually protect them. However, i think its really important to, like i said before, to reevaluate our policies. Regarding the individuals that were on the same plane as the second nurse that has ebola, i think, its probably less likely that theyre going to get it. If they were not in direct contact with her. The probability is probably lower. However, i think, its better to be safe than sorry. So i dont think its a bad idea to have them monitor her temperature twice a day and monitor her symptoms. We see the numbers from west africa as the number of people who are infected with ebola or have died. Im just guessing. Having traveled in africa those numbers are grossly underestimated because so many people live out in the bush. Am i right . Youve lived there. Are these numbers like grossly understated . I agree with youment i think theres a

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