I was anticipating wisconsin. How about it. Contenders appear. Check it out online. Thats it for special report tonight fair, balanced and unafraid. Here comes greta. Tonight on the record is donald trump launching a new strategy . Just hours after a stinging defeat to senator ted cruz in wisconsin, trump is back up on the horse. Trump is storming long island for a huge rally in beth page. On the record has Live Team Coverage both inside and outside this massive trump event. Plus, we have new information developing about the possibility of of a contested convention. We begin with our own Griff Jenkins live outside be grummond studios, grif . Thats right. We are here in beth page, new york, where a few hundred protesters have turned out here, heckling some of the supporters coming. There are 10,000 inside the studios. We were able to talk to them
earlier and we found out that they are nothing short of furious of what they view as the g. O. P. Establishment, the republican establishment denying trump this nomination. Take a look. Vs are you supporting donald trump . [cheers and applause] he tells it like it is, and thats what we need. I am going to support donald trump because is he not a politician. Great. Thats what we believe in the young generation and the youth coming up. He is the only man for this job. I think he is the only one that has the guts to stand up to big government. I think he is the only one that can help make America Great again. [crowd booing] butterfly and stings like a be. Trump is the man for 2016. The lobbyists will be out, special interests will be out. He will fight for america. Is he a nationalist. He will fight for all of you us. He is honest and truthful and thats why i will only vote for trump. Set only choice. Im aggravated at what they are doing to donald trump. I think donald trump is going to be an asset to this country. I think is he going to make a great president. The Establishment Republicans who i followed all these years promised you the world. They say when you vote for me and do this or that and that is not what we receive. I think im going to stand behind trump. Because i have conservative views but if the Republican Party wants to be wishy washy like that, then thats going against what i believe and im going to support the guy that supports what i believe in. Stop trump you will vote. And, greta, freedom of speech is obviously out here. These are folks that are antitrump. Can you see the black lives matter and just on the other side, the police have separated the trump supporters. So they are having fun yelling at each other across the way. The police keeping it very peaceful so far. I would say there is probably about two or three hundred dread of 2 or 300 of the an tri trump folks. The set up their own protrump area. And they are going to yell all night long while 10,000 folks get ready to hear donald trump inside drummond studios, greta . Griff, all those people inside the studios protrump. Obviously you have antitrump out there. But you have got protrump as well. In terms of out there are there more protrump out there or antitrump . Well, there is less protrump folks because this group over here, greta, that you can see has really just formed within the last 20 or 30 minutes. This is the path here. You dont see anyone coming now. But this is a road that a lot of the 10,000 supporters came up to go in to the studios that you see just over my shoulders. Thats where we wereq talking to people. [chanting u. S. A. ] you can hear the
antitrump people actually chanting u. S. A. At the protrump folks. Anyway, griff, thank you. And fox molly line is inside the grumond studios where trump is holding his rally. Molly, whats it like inside . Exactly right, greta. We are inside the building here. There is incredible crowd here. This is Donald Trumps first big event returning back to his home state and final before voters to the empire state head to the polls. You can see a lot of red hats here. A lot of fans. We actually caught the shuttle bus before 3 00 today riding in with some of these rally goers. Packed, standing room only in by that bus and here we are at the event and just as crowded here. Windy and cold out here. A lot t fans waited in some long lines in the cold but they are dedicated and they made it inside. A lot of hats and tshirts. They have chosen their candidate. This is not later in the process, many of these folks
are committed voters. Regarding protesters announcement made to rally goers despite the area outside, specifically of thedi protesters, where griff is stationed that maybe some protesters will still chose to infiltrate, come inside and interrupt the ongoing rally and specific instructions were given to the crowd not touch or harm the protester this is a peaceful rally. You did just see one individual actually escorted out. Trump tweeted a little earlier on today teasing this rally in bethpage saying it is so great to be back home and trumps swift return to the home state that the Trump Campaign is moving forward. The loss in wisconsin in the rear view real clear politics average shows trumps leading here in the state of new york but also leading in california to. A certain extent is he looking ahead to that other contest down the road heading out to california for a press conference there on friday. Is he looking ahead. Looking to capitalize in these states where he expects to see some success. Trump hopes to win here in new york and carry momentum into the nortc molly, thank you. Note to the viewers as soon as donald trump takes to the podium, we will go back there. This is the first time he has spoken since last night when he got beaten in wisconsin by senator ted cruz. In the fight for g. O. P. Delegates is now reaching new heights. New Convention Rules and closed door meetings. Theyre all on the table. Former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich is standing by. But, first, Governor John Kasich and his team meeting to look at ways to get the g. O. P. Nomination thrown into the contested
convention. Fox news correspondent Garrett Tenney is÷. Here. Garrett, tell me whats going on. Greta, we know winning the nomination is all about numbers. Right now those numbers are not in john kasichs favor. His argument is and this is part of what his campaign was delegate donors and g. O. P. Operatives this afternoon behind closed doors is that that could quickly change at the convention. I spoke to kasich senior strategist john weaver after the meeting. He told me that they have had scores of delegates telling the Kasich Campaign for months that they will be going his way at the convention after the first round when they are no longer bound to a specific candidate. Bound to donald trump and ted cruz, but, if it plays out asi campaign imagines, you would have 300 to 400 delegates shift from the two frontrunners going his way. Making the delegate count much closer than it currently appears to be, according to kasichs campaign. Its secret sauce that will carry him across the finish line is the general election. Delegates dont want to nominate someone only to see that person lose in the general election and when
you look at many of the recent polls, john kasich is the only republican candidate that consistently beats both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in the general election. So kasichs Campaign Says everyone should just calm down and wait to see how things play out. Garrett, thank you very much. And senator ted cruzs wisconsin win bring as contested or broker the Convention Much closer to a reality. a either before cleveland or at the convention in cleveland together we will win a majority of the delegates and together we will beat Hillary Clinton in november. [cheers and applause] i think we close it out before the convention. I think we actually close it out before the convention. We have had 10 contested Republican Conventions where only three times did the leader get picked. Where do the rubio delegates and where do the kasich delegates go . I think they naturally come to us. Former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich is here. Nice to see you, mr. Speaker. Good to be with you. I have a quote here, supposedly yours, which reads as follows zero possibility trump and cruz are dumb enough to allow Convention Rule overhaul meaning the changes which would allow for kasich to be on the ballot. Well, kasichs one opportunity on the ballot would be to get enough people in seven other states, he already has ohio, to basically say they support him remember. You are required by law to vote for the person who carried your district or your state. You are not required by law to to÷p help nominate somebody else. If he could talk to these tellings they claim to have and if he could get a majority of them. You dont have to win a majority, you have to assemble a majority, but he has to have 8 statements. Okay. Thats the 2012 rule with the romney convention. Yeah. Does that rule bind now or will there be a new rules committee that will create and will decide either to go with that rule or not go with that rule . My only reply was yes,
there will be a new rules committee it could recommend new rules. But theyre controlled by the cruz and Trump Campaign . The cruz and Trump Campaign have 80 of the delegates. The odds are theyre not going to go ohc please let us make life harder for ourselves. Thats the zero possibility they are not that stupid. I will say if you look at the poll you had up a minute ago. Kasich is running second in new york. If kasich were actually able to sustain that and actually able to pick up some delegates in new york. He begins to be a little2mj4 p more viable. This whole argument that he is the most electable is undercut every time he doesnt win. Okay. You said to my colleague over at the Fox Business NetworkMaria Bartiromo that trump has now normalized cruz. What do you mean . If cruz was running without trump. Cruz would be the guy the establishment would be totally opposed to because they didnt like cruz. I mean they really didnt like cruz. Now that they are terrified of trump, they have decided that they dont like cruz, at least they could tolerate him. So you now see lots of people who are dealing with cruz as sort of the acceptable, he is the normal candidate because he is a u. S. Senator. You know, he understands the law. Is he a lawyer. He knows how to talk like government. Without trump, cruz would todayse be the conservative insurgent candidate and somebody else would be in the establishment position that cruz occupies. A lot of people have said that trump has not laid out his policies. Has trump laid out his policies . Whether you agree with him or not . Has he laid out his policies . He certainly told us about a lot of policies. He wants to build a wall with mexico. He wants the mexicans to pay for it. He wants to deal in a very tough way in key places like china. He questions whether or not we should continue to allow our european allies to not pay for their defense and rely on us to protect them. I mean, he has really raised a whole series of issues. Some of them jarring washington very badly. Its not fair to say that he has not been substantive. What he hasnt done, with the exception of the aipac speech, he has not given the kind of set piece structured speeches that you would like to see a potential president give that has a lotyj of substance and a lot of thought in its structure. People dont like some. His critics dont like he has done it actually laid out policy but they dont like the way he has laid it out . The form . Well, i think, look, i do who become rabid when they think about donald trump and its hard for them to get any incoming information. So, no matter what he says, you know, i will bet almost nobody says he has no substance has read his aipac speech which is actually a and good speech. People may not like the fact he is questioning allies doing. The truth is george w. Bush and Donald Rumsfeld have questioned how much european allies are doing because some arent doing anything to defend themselves. Its that they dont like trump. They dont like trump. About trump. Said anything. If he did Say Something he cant have said it because is he trump. Mr. Speaker, nice to have you here. Good to be with you. Mr. Trump dairy state to the empire state. Tonight is he working a home crowd in new york. Where are the rest of the 2016 contenders, they are also out on the campaign trail. Im so encouraged after what was a terrific victory yesterday in wisconsin. We have now won seven out of eight of the last caucuses. Tonight is a turning point. There is a primary in pennsylvania on april 26th. I help i can count on your support. Hillary, get ready, here we come. You just cant wait until you are president. I have got to get there. Political panel is here from town hall. Com guy benson and from the washington times
stephen dinan. Steven, bad night for donald trump last night but at least big night for him tonight in new york. Of course, there is a big difference between winning a primary and having a lot of people cheering for you at your rally. Roll in new york tonight. Yeah. And the latest polling suggests that he certainly goes into that state with a lead which is obviously helpful for him. We have seen him lose leads lately in wisconsin where you had a oneonone essentially battle with ted kun cruz. 4j4 p c 4j4 p c a lot of time there doing multiple rallies a day. Cruz was able to surmount that cruz starts much further behind in this situation. So its going to be a real test. Let me stop you one second thats ivanka trump, his daughter who is about to introduce him. We will go back to you, stephen, sorry. The real problem for ted cruz is he has got to do what he did last night 20 more times. He won 80 of the delegates out of that in order to first ballot at the convention he needs to keep up 85 pace, almost
impossible. Guy . Yeah. He wont pull that off at all. His goal is to get to the convention with donald trump shy of 1237 so he can then have a shot on the second or third ballot of that convention. What he did last night really trouncing donald trump in wisconsin helped him in that regard. Up next as you say, greta, new york, 92 bound dels at stake. Donald trump has a wig lead there although there are multiple opportunities across the state per Congressional District for cruz to pick off delegates here and there. You know whats sort of interesting about cruz and the reason why i think he has been effective in wisconsin, he wins caucuses because he has got a great ground game. Much better than obviously the other candidates he has contended with in wisconsin i heard he had a great ground game gevment deny trump the 1237 delegates goingc into ohio, he has got my guess is he has got a good ground game thats already beginning to round up these delegates and that is sort of the sneaker part of his campaign is that his opponents should be looking at. Thats exactly right. Its not just something that
they will begin doing. They have already started looking at the delegate selection process. That meaning trump or cruz . Cruz. So he is getting that ground game now. Absolutely. 3 so come an open convention, should that occur, ted cruz will be exceptionally well organized in cleveland. And you agree . Sure, absolutely. We have seen over the past week or two that he has actually won delegates that he did not necessarily he didnt win at the ballot box and he has already claimed those ballots iniocr places like north dakota, louisiana, and colorado. He has that ground game. Trump is getting a late start on that. Whats the strategy for trump now . What does he do . Is he a little bit i mean, he had the wind kicked out of him in wisconsin last night. The strategy is to regain his footing in a place like new york to try and notch a as big a wins a possible and deflate that cruz bubble. Steven, guy, if you will stay with us, of course, we are waiting for donald trump to take the podium. And in the meantime,
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[chanting trump] [chanting u. S. A. ] thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. First of all, its great to be home. This is home. Its great to be home. [. [cheers and applause] we love new york. We love new york and we are all together going to make America Great again, folks. [cheers and applause] so, i was driving over from manhattan and i passed queens. I love queens. Do we have a lot of queens . I love i grew up in queens. I grew up in queens. And i used to play you know, i used to get here at
like 2 00 in the morning to bethpage. Yall know what i mean, right . [cheers] but i love this city and i love this country and we are going to start winning again with our country. Because we dont win. We never win. We never ever win anymore. Military. We dontlaa]l win on trade. We dont win on healthcare. We dont win on anyth