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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren April 15, 2016 23:00:00

Unafraid. Make it a great weekend. Remember, rising threat, shrinking military, reairs this sunday, 8 00 and 11 00. In case you missed it first time around. And by the way, here comes greta. Tonight, on the record, donald trump is in connecticut. And the g. O. P. Frontrunner is about to take the stage in front of a packed house of thousands of his fans. Outside the Connecticut Convention center antitrump protesters and they have been lining up for hours. On the record has Live Team Coverage inside the event to outside the event where the protesters are waving their sign. It all kicks off inside Fox News National correspondent john roberts. John . And this is a rare occasion, greta. Where donald trump is absolutely on time here at the Convention Center in downtown hartford. Probably 6,000 or 7,000 people jammed in here. Of the police said they were expecting about 8,000. After tonight justqx three more days until people go to the polls in new york city where Donald Trump Holds a huge lead over second place running john kasich and third place ted cruz. 36 points ahead of ted cruz. Donald trump is not letting up at all. You have think a candidate with that kind of a lead would coast to victory. Trump is not doing that. The reason is he not doing it is because of the way that they give outline the delegates in new york state. If he goes above 50 in the state, he gets all of the at large delegates. If he goes above 50 in the congressional district, he gets all three of those delegates per congressional district. That is his plan. Because he wants to come out of new york state into the next five contests on the 26th. Connecticut, maryland, rhode island and delaware with a big head of steam on and turn back this narrative that ted cruz has been winning everything. You probably saw today as well that oped in the wall street journal where donald trump said if he is elected president and becomes the de facto leader of the party, is he going to work with the rnc to change the rules regarding how the delegates are selected. Is he very unhappy about what happened in colorado. We did see a small protested group out in front of the State Capitol today protesting there was no popular vote. Delegates were selected by party officials. Not happy with that really, what this is all designed to do is promote some sort of change between now and the convention, greta, its designedn voters. Donald trump and the campaign believes and if they can convince people that their votes are being taken away by the party apparatus. The angry backlash caused by that will motivate more people to go out to the polls between now and june 7th and give donald trump the 1237 delegates he needs to clinch the nomination before that convention. Greta . John, thank you very much. And outside the Connecticut Convention center antitrump protesters flashing their signs and raising their voices. Fox news correspondent rick lesson that you is in the thick of it, rick . Greta, a couple hundred people here outside theConvention Center, a smaller protest crowd here in new york city last night. And pittsburgh on wednesday night. But equally boisterous with a lot of the same slogans we have been hearing. Connecticut has no place for hate. Say nothing to racism, sexism and bigotry. As far as the Hartford Police department is concerned. It wantings to make sure safe demonstration. The chief told me learned from the experiences of other cities and because of that he put the protesters right out in front of the convention but he created a buffer zone to create the antitrump people and people here to support donald trump. They are heading inside right here, right in the line of people going in stretches inside the garage but the beginning of the line is right here to the right. And it stretches all the way down to the end of the building and then back, doubles back and goes underneath. So there are many more outside who are still waiting to get inside chief told me 8800. They may have to delay the event because more people are trying to get. In a crowd out here trying to make their voices heard and hope Donald Trumps voice will be heard loud and clear inside the Convention Center in a few minutes. Is there one particular theme as to the protesters why they dont want trump there or is it everything . The theme is basically hate. There is no place for hate in connecticut. Can you see the signs here. Trump is a racist clown. Trump makes america hate again. You have immigrant white groups here and you have people who say that trump represents racism and sexism and homophobia and bigotry and they dont like his rhetoric, greta. Thats what were hearing from city to city. They are saying trump represents hate and he has no place representingyc america. Rick, how big is the Police Presence and i must say i tip my hat to the police there because it seems like a pretty good protest meaning that there doesnt seem to be any trouble. People are just protesting. They didnt give us numbers, we see them on the fringes. But they have been very low key here. They want to let these people demonstrate, protest, and let their voices be heard. They are not here to arrest people. They are just here to;u make sure that people behave orderly according to the department. So far thats been the case. Rick, thank you. And donald trump opens up a new front. Its not just big rallies and debates. Today, the g. O. P. Frontrunner taking to the editorial pages, writing an op ed in the wall street journal that leaves his usual brash behavior at the door. You know, my rallies are the safest places to be on earth. And nobody wants to report that the Dishonest Media will never report that. Lyin ted cruz. Boy, is he going way down in the polls. He is now third. A lot of people, they tell me, i dont know, but they tell me they like trump because is he a straight talker. The honest truth, we have to be straight talkers. This political correctness is killing our country. Its killing us. Its killing us. Former president ial candidate and donald trump supporter governor Mike Huckabee goes on the record. Good evening, governor. Greta, how are you doing . Now, i have not endorsed anybody. I think everybody believes im a supporter. Look, i have been a defender of donald trump because i feel like that a lot of people have misrepresented his message. He beat me, so its not like im putting my arms around him, you know, in an endorsing way. But, you know, he is the leader. He is the one who has captured the attention of america. What do you think about the oped the oped in the wall street journal . I mean he is pretty much indicting the delegates system, at least as far as colorado goes, saying things like that the nominee is coach by delegates and not by the people. Well, is he spot on. I thought it was a brilliant editorial. What he did which was so masterful and frankly important pivot for him to make. The last couple of weeks he has talked a whole lot about how he has been mistreated. What he did brilliantly in this editorial was to tie his treatment from the Political Class to the treatment that americans are feeling from the Political Classst last sentence summed it up. Politicians and Political Class have had it their way for a long time let 2016 be the year that the American People get theirs. And thats why donald trump has done so well. He is touched that nerve of people who are sick and tired of the Political Class running all over them. Why in the wall street journal oped page . Rally, and all the news organizations take his word, he is going to get a lot more people hearing it than who may be reading the wall street journal oped page and, frankly, do you know what i mean . Its not going to reach the demographics that he might necessarily want to reach. Chances were there were readers much the wall street journal all over america who were spewing their blends as they read Donald Trumps words in the paper that was precisely the point. He took his message to the people who were ready to receive it guess what, we are talking about it tonight. All day long people have been talking about it again, it was a smart move on his part showing that uncanny savvy he has in getting the media to focus on what he is saying. I get his principle that the delegates in colorado choose the nominee and the delegates are chosen by the socalled party elite, not by the voters. I get that objection to it. But i dont quite understand though is that this wasnt something that was sprung on him last week. That this apparently was part of the rules and the rules were disclosed to all the candidates and i assume you as well on october 1st. So is it a little bit too late to sort of have this after he has lost those delegates to suddenly complain about it . Well, look, the rules are indeed the rules. But, there is another fact about this that i think he has been right about. Sometimes these rules can be manipulated. And it really means that when a person gets the most votes, you would assume well, they are going to get the delegates. But if you dont even have votes, it may be whats legal, but i think a lot ofz people would say but thats just not right. I got that. Were supposed to an election, not a selection. I got that. The problem is because of the timing of it that because it wasnt done last october after he lost the delegates. Naturally the criticism is going to be that he might not have criticized it had he won all the delegates in colorado. I guess thats still a problem. Maybe its just his campaign was a little bit behind in terms of reading the rules of the various states. Its a timing issue that i think is going to come back to haunt him a litigation bit on. This. No doubt. Well, look, greta. Lets be honest. If trump had won colorado and gotten all the tells. He wouldnt have said gee, thats not fair. I have gotten all the delegates. Let me give some away. I understand that in politics when youre explaining, youre losing. Here is what has happened. He has made the charge that it was a rigged deal. Now you have the colorado republican convention. You have the rnc and have you ted cruz trying to explain the process. Theyre losing. Is he winning the argument. Because all he has to do is to say gee, it wasnt fair. And they have to go in and explain the fine print and thats where you always lose politically is when you have to explain something. Governor, you know, i think i agree that the whole process seems a little bit silly. Every state has a different set of rules. I can understand why everybody thinks a lot of people think its a pretty nutty system from coast to coast. Anyway, governor, thank you for joining us. Great to be here, greta. Now will this oped have an impact on voters and what other tactical reason for the oped. Susan ferrechio and from the Weekly Standard daniel halper. Susan, whats the advantage to this oped to donald trump . well, i didnt feel it was very trumpesque it looked like somebody else wrote it. Use the words we hear him say when he is on the campaign trail. But it incapsulated perfectly the whole trump argument that voters are being left out. And he is there to make it about them and not about the political elite. And he basically incapsulated it all in the first sentence in the oped which colorado had an election without voters. You cant put it more simply than that it sounds like. That does sound bad. And we could top it with the fact that they had that terrible tweet that came out from the colorado g. O. P. Which showed that they were gunning for trump. Right. Exactly. And it makes it look like voters were really sidelined and voters didnt get a chance to express how they felt. I think the governor really made a great point. Trump labeled it as a fraud and now you have everyone trying to defend it which is, you know, he has really changed the argument in his favor. It was a losing situation for trump. Is he turning it into a winning situation. Lets turn to viewers. Now is your chance to vote on twitter. Are the delegate rules rigged. Tweet yes or no using greta. Live votes throughout the show. That last sentence governor huckabee pointed out which reads the political insiders have had their way for a long time. That 2016 be remembered as the year the American People finally got theirs. Which does sort of tap into his sort of the outsider or the anger of the American People whats been going on. Totally, look, you as susan said, this does a good job framing what the debate is at one time susan pointed out donald trump is indicting the whole system. On the other hand, if you are not prochurch protrump. Looks like this guy is holding his nomination hostage and either you give it to him or is he going to blow up the whole system. Again, if you like the guy, and you tnk the system is bad, thats good. Thats promising. If you think the system has yielded good results or at least has been has added a certain amount of stability to the american political process, i think you become concerned that somebody like that is using this kind of language in aqe way that we havent seen a politician do before in recent. I dont know how you can see stability in this delegate system. I have got so many pieces of paper in front of me every time we do this because no state is the same and they all change it. And it really does look a little bit. It is so such a checker board of rules and regulations hard to have that sense of stability and fairness. Even if it might ultimately be. When you think of fairness, this election really lifted the veil on the whole process it surprised a lot of people. This has been the process all along for many, many years. In fact, it was originally just delegates picking candidates and then they broadened it to include primary voters over the years. It was always a party process. Of course here last august. The people were going to got ca. Your questioning to Mike Huckabee. He didnt say anything before. As governor huckabee confirmed it would seem to him that donald trump wouldnt say anything had it gone in his favor and it does seem a bit like sour grapes. Its a quirky system. Quirky, do you know what the viewers say. They say 85 rigid. You say quirky. Yours is a nicer word. They say rigged. Donald trumps argument perhaps its rigged. This is the Bernie Sanders argument too on the democratic side. Reince priebus and the Republican National committee they are stuck having to defend the system that people have voted for and created a certain amount of stability. Im not defending. This is where both sides are. But it does threaten to really change how everything is doneig going forward. Which, of course, is one of the big reasons people like him, obviously. And, of course the fact go back to that email right as soon as trump lost, they said they made that email to the colorado g. O. P. To make it look like it was really rig to do send that tweet out. Of course, they say they are trying to investigate how that happened. But it is now what, friday night and it happened last saturday. We are still waiting. Dont hold your breath. If you will both stay with us though. Did senator ted cruz just compare himself to president Abraham Lincoln . Here what the senator said next. Also not just nasty on the right. Getting nasa i dont know 00 democratic side. No love loss between secretary Hillary Clinton and senator Bernie Sanders. Thats coming up. And on the record continues to monitor the donald trump rally in connecticut. We will take you there live if he makes news. 2hx [ salesman ] congrats on the new car. [ woman ] thanks. The dealership reviews on cars. Com made it easy, but. [ man ] we thought it might be a little more tense. 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Going back to 1860, this has been one way and only one way to win the republican nomination. And that2 is you earn the votes of the majority of the delegates elected by the people. Right. That has been every single election since 1860. Lincoln got it on the third time. By the way, he didnt go in, using the donald talking point. He didnt go in with the most votes and the most did he goes. Instead, what happened was he earned it at the convention and if you cant get a majority of the delegates to support you, you aint going to be the no, nominee and you aint going to be the president. And viewers, keep on voting at home on twitter. Answer this question, are the delegate rules rigged . Tweet yes or no using greta. We will keep showing you live twitter votes throughout the show. The on the record Political Panel is back. Susan, your thoughts about senator ted cruz to sean . Is he right. Those are the rules. The rules were decided four years ago in 2012. The rules are still in place. They may change them but the problem with the argument is that i dont think a lot of the voting populist cares. Wait i thought we picked the primary winner. Realizing rules are in place and more complicated. Depending what state you are in too. That maybe doesnt seem fair to them. I think thats why cruzs argument is he is correct. He is absolutely correct. But it still doesnt really resonate the way trumps argument which is colorado just had an election without any votes. I mean, his argument is s

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