Shannon and i will be back in an hour. Outnumbered starts right now. This is outnumbered. Here with us today and todays hashtag one lucky guy, tv personality and veterans advocate, montel williams. Hes back and outnumbered. Welcome back. Good to be back. Its great to see you. You guys have been firing up every day. As much as i can catch you, i catch you. Thats nice. Thats great. I want to make sure im prepared if you ever did ask me
back. Thats what i said last time, too. Just a couple of weeks ago with the release of sergeant and montel, you played a huge role on that and i think on behalf of everyone in the studio, thank you. Thanks to all the fox viewers. Were it not for you guys putting extra pressure on and believe me, the Mexican Government understood that. Lawyers involved understood that but i just talked to andrew yesterday. This story is not over and i have to make sure america remembers, theres another 2,000, 3,000 andrews. They may not have been in jail but theyre suffering. This young man is diagnosed with combat ptsd and now he truly is thats Stockholm Syndrome and we havent had anybody treated for that in this country for 25 years. This man is sitting in limbo right now. I talked to him yesterday and im trying to talk to him every day. A lot of marines are sending hope and help and were trying to reach out to different
the c. I. A. Report despite word from a phone call from Secretary Of State john kerry to hold off. John kerry warning this is going to jeopardize men and women in the field now as well as relationships that we have with our allies. Is this intelligence and this alleged torture tactic getting out . Rock and a hard place. So sorry. This whole country is in between a rock and a hard place on this issue. We have to remember that we signed on to treaties years and years ago that said we wouldnt do certain things. Im not going to argue whether they were done or they werent. What im going to say is right now, were sitting in a position where even administration, when we come back to the central issue, that central issue is, had this never happened, we wouldnt have to worry about releasing reports. Lets just say one thing about this. Those who would give up central
liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Thats benjamin franklin. In the last hour we talked about the fact they puts people in imminent danger and that to him as someone who has been there, who has been in the field, who is so respected, that is illogical. It makes no sense. Its hard to ignore that opinion. Ive been in the field, too. These techniques have been stopped, these are techniques allegedly used in the Bush Administration so why now if theyve been stopped . I have some questions about that. I want to go straight to senator dianne feinstein, though, because shes exiting her role as the chairperson of the Intel Committee as you mentioned. It isnt just getting the report out. Shes pushed against the white house because they wanted to redact 15 of it. She wants people to see what she had to say on the reported. I would ask, is this personal . Why the timing now . The other part of this, though, and you talk about the general that i spoke to this morning. He said they didnt talk to one person who was doing the interrogating about this report. If they put it out there and it endangers us, is it worth it if it might not be as fact ral as it could be . Brit hume called the timing of this inhe c ehe ca ehe ca eh inexplicable. They could be trying to get this off her desk or changing the narrative. The last time democrats were screaming about this, they were winning elections. They defeated tom delays electoral map to take the house with this exact discussion. Are they trying to return to that . I think so and i think the fear is that if its delayed and shes no longer heading the committee, is this dropped altogether and then will she be
held accountable by some members of community that you didnt handle this correctly . This is a promise, remember, barack obama has been talking about it for a long time. My key point is the Justice Department investigated this. They found no criminal charges. They filed no criminal charges. Why are they doing this now . And the issue here, people keep saying this is the wrong time. They should delay this. When is it a good time to release it . Never going to be a good time. Look in the 1970s. I talked to k. T. Mc far mand mc farland right now. You had a similar situation and you also gutted the c. I. A. Such that in the 1980s for the first time, we saw people plotting in caves against us, ala al qaeda. Her big question is not only about timing but when would a good time ever be . I remember one of the first things administration did when President Obama came into office was pursue legal action for
techniques. This is a return to that even though the techniques had been stopped. It makes you wonder, why now . United states has transferred six Guantanamo Bay detainees to uruguay. This is the largest grup to leave the prison since 2009 and the first to be resettled in south america. Group includes four syrians, one palestinian and one tunisian. That brings the number of prisoners now hit at gtmo down to 136. Once administration gets that number below 100, its believed the president will push to bring the remaining detainees to a u. S. Facility. I want to go on this one. This is a little different than what we saw with the birdall transfer. This is a release. Former federal prosecutor was on earlier and he said theres no preconditions with this one. Not like in qatar where they have to watch the detainees. They are free to go today, the
he wants to make sure they understand at the end of this, he wants to get stuff done that he promised initially and he wasnt forgetting about them. I would take it a further step than that. It wasnt just a campaign promise. First week of his presidency in 2009 he signed an Executive Order to make this happen. So it was more than just i might get it done. I am going to get this done. Its 2014, almost the next year. 2015. It still hasnt been done yet. So my question, is this a Slippery Slope . Are we looking at a situation where hes going to expedite the closing of gtmo and then how do we hold the other countries responsible and accountable for when these guys leave their soil and go do horrible things . And we get rid of the most dangerous. That was the concern with the birdall flop. They got rid of the most dangerous ones. You can almost justify, the really dangerous ones are out of there. Low level offenders are not as big of a deal. No preconditions. They can walk today. Why send them to a country that cant at least keep them on house arrest or monitor them . Not saying qatarg to do a great job but i have no idea why the president thought he could do this. I get what youre saying by attempting to close this. Its impossible for him to close Guantanamo Bay in the next two years. Its not going to get done. Here are six people they put back out in the field to go back to work. Right. And theyll be heros when they return. With regard to other countries watching, if we couldnt keep up with the brothers who, you know, suspected of pulling off the boston bombing, if we couldnt do that on our own soil and we have an n. S. A. That it practically look at each naval on the couch, if we cant do it, why do we expect other countries to . It will be easier for him to end it if he doesnt acknowledge what theyre doing. New questions about an Explosion Ive article on roll stone
magazine that sparked demonstrations on one college camp us and shut down the greek system. Now the magazine is apologizing for the story but how did the Mainstream Media get duped so easily . And youve seen the protests in response to the recent grand Jury Decisions of the police killings. The law school is now allowing students to postpone their final exams if they feel traumatized by what happened. And right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web. Join us for the famous Outnumbered Overtime by logging on to fox news. Com o news. Com outnumber news. Com outnumbered. Comments, anything you would like to hear more about. Fox news. Com. Out for a bike rid
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so much reaction. You know, if the reporter was sucked in and didnt want to check the sources, there should have been several editors saying if were going to put the name of our may go sglen on the line and our reputation, we have to at least talk to the other side. I mean, this is honestly unheard of in journalism. I want to talk about the effect of this on Sexual Assault victims around the country. Will this make them less likely to speak out or what is the effect on them . This is a problem that exists around the country. This is a real scary problem. We want people to feel comfortable coming forward. The fact were asking a question, theres some woman sitting at home, if something happened to her last night, shes going, im not going to pick up the phone. Somebodys daughter feels that way right now listening to this discussion right here. Now were not judging the victim but judging whether or not the victim was telling the truth or whether or not im not commenting on what were talking about. Im just selling you, theres a girl at home who heard this conversation and said im not
going to say a word to anybody. And now she suffers in silence. What do we do . Maybe change the narrative from one of whether or not, you know, Rolling Stone they got it wrong. They were wrong. And the public should let them know by not buying the may gazm. Any young lady out here right now today, even listening to this conversation right here among four women, if you were abused yesterday, you have the right to come forward. Skip the news report. Go see somebody. Go to the police. Lets also talk about the fact that its 2014, maybe 2015 and we still allow police departments, municipalities called university polices, Police Officers to investigate these crimes on campuses. These are people some of these people dont even have a job, have been university Police Officers for 15 years and thats the person who is going to investigate the rape of your daughter . Never been in the field . I think a lot of these universities take this issue
very seriously. A lot of them dont take it as seriously as they should. I think they feel a very, very huge amount of pressure from the white house and this administration to take it seriously and i think schools like u. V. A. To think that they did nothing about this. If the story was true, which its not. Im not going to the story. I dont think theres women saying theyre not going to come forward because of the conversation were having right now. No. I disagree. I think Rolling Stone put someone out there who didnt have a credible story. Its Rolling Stones fault that someone at home is having second thoughts about this. If youre going to come forward, you should come forward and you shoulding telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth. What about the university here and what about these fraternities that have been tarnished that are saying we did nothing wrong and now were labelled as x, y and z . What should they be doing . Right now theyre trying to get a repeal on the moratorium on them. They havent been able to operate as they had been before
the article came out. Theyre appealing the process with the university so ive read as of yesterday, it hadnt been revolved yet so they could open their doors on the way they usually operate. A couple of things come to mind about this whole thing with the journalistic end of it. This young woman according to the two friends you mentioned and others that theyve since talked about because the Washington Post now talked with people, have said something happened that night and it may not have been the way that jackie said it did but they witnessed a change in her, that something happened. And that is my concern. That throughout this whole process, because Rolling Stone didnt do its due diligence, they didnt get to the truth. Maybe she just simply couldnt tell it. Maybe she was bad at telling it. She was drunk that night. Whatever the situation is. But they fell down in two counts. Not just in journalism but they let her down, too. The hope is that someone will get to the true story and it wont deter anyone who is suffer to go come forward. Rolling stone is now fiction. You can categorize in the
fiction section at libraries. Protests not to indict white Police Officers in the deaths of black men turning violent over the weekend and it comes as a new poll think that relations between white and black communities have gotten worse since President Obama was elected. Is it really his fault . Speaking of the grnd Jury Decisions, one of the top law schools in america letting students delay their finals if theyre suffering, quote, trauma from all of this. Is that any way to treat future lawyers, columbia . Youre driving along,
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had a second here in New York City but were talking days from that. What do people in the streets want . If you look at what happened in berkeley and oakland, those people werent even out there because of this issue. Lights start to get ba to where we should probably a