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FOXNEWSW Outnumbered April 23, 2019

Charlie pleased to be here, thank you. Melissa do you feel ready . Charlie i hope so [laughter] melissa lets get to it. The two brothers filing a defamation lawsuit against smolletts highprofile attorneys, the brothers were initially arrested as suspects in the alleged attack in january but were later released. They are claiming that Jussie Smollett paid them a sum of money to stage an attack to benefit himself. They add that the actor directed every aspect of the incident. Smollett maintains the attack was not staged. Heres an attorney for the brothers reading their statemen statement. These lies are destroying our character and our reputation in our personal and professional lives. Those who know us personally know that we dont have hate for anyone that is not who we are. We will no longer sit back and allow these lies to continue. Melissa mike tobins live in chicago with the latest. Mike . Its important that this lawsuit does not name Jussie Smollett as a defendant, rather, he names his legal team. They say that after all the charges were dropped against the actor, attorneys mark gary gose and tina started doing the rounds on news programs and blamed the attack of the brothers. They claimed that the statements damaged the repetition of the brothers car their business, and consummate them emotional distress. Theyre asking for damages and legal costs. Lawyers for the brothers say they want to clear the name of two guys who were just trying to make it as actors and did what successful actors told them to do. They say they want to clear interpretation of the city in the lawsuit does say that sandra directed the old thing they were asked to do some big driver and they trusted. At the end of the day, that friend betrayed their trust. The lawsuit says that they claimed on the unreasonable doubt podcast that the younger brother briefly engaged in homosexual encounter with Jussie Smollett. That story floated by the Jussie Smollett legal team for by the brothers would have attacked smollett if it was not at his direction. According to a source from the smollett team, one brother was worried that the other one was gay and directed him to be that the actor to prove he wasnt gay. The lawsuit says that homosexuality is not approved of in nigerian culture. Melissa wow. Thank you for that. Charlie . That was quite a new revelation for people that werent following it on the sites that put out things that are not reported elsewhere. Charlie im from chicago and its a total disgrace. I knew there was something wrong with the story assumes they heard that negative 2 degrees weather, he alleged somebody said, this is maga country. Ive never heard anyone in cook county use that language whatsoever. There needs to be justice served here. Its horrible that those felony counts were dismissed. Theres an abundance of people, both democrat and republican, and chicago. It seems like there was a celebrity double standard here. That he got treated differently. Melissa its an interesting approach through the lawyers and not the actor himself, for defamation. Putting it on them, that the brothers character has been dragged through the mud. Obviously someone here is lying. Maybe this is a way to get it in court to identify who is telling the truth and he was lying. Leslie it should have been. Did we just agree . [laughter] oh, my god this is a good start to a week then. When you have someone standing there saying, we are being defamed because we took money from an actor to pretend to beat him up, to make him look better, and to make this look like an antigay and even antiblack crime, im sorry, you messed up your character if you are alleging this is true. Im glad it will go to court because this is terrible. Think about the resources and, in addition to that, how many victims out there of racism and how many victims of homophobia in the Lgbtq Community there are i lived in chicago four years and this is terrible, especially in a city that has a lot of tension along the lines of race. Jillian if i could be better to agree, i guess, at the end of the day they are adults. They are the ones who said, yes, we will do this for you to get paid. At the end of the day, they are the ones you see on the Surveillance Video purchasing the things used in this alleged hoax. So i have a hard time believing they are victims in this case. Katie the need to be held responsible, maybe not legally, but participating in carrying out a fake hate crime and then blaming white people and Trump Supporters for that hate crime. Thats the first thing. That being said, the fact that Jussie Smollett is getting away with all this, his attorney went on the today show and accuse the brothers of maybe wearing white face and that so he said there were white men who attacked him when he was talking to police. The things theyve said in his defense definitely not only defamed the brothers, they are saying they still carried it out, even though they dont like he said they were white. But the political applications have been dropped when it comes to the discussion. They smeared an entire group of americans and it could have caused a lot more damage in terms of the culture and discourse in this country as a result of what they did. Melissa knew details from nicks ordinary Conference Call with Democratic Committee chair, Speaker Pelosi urging fellow democrats to focus on investigations rather than impeachment in the wake of the special counsel report on russian interference in the 2016 election. Speaker pelosi reportedly telling a this is not about democrats or republicans, its about saving our democracy. We dont have to go to articles of impeachment to get the facts. They tell fox news that Maxine Waters spoke up saying she still supports impeachment but wont seek to influence anyone else on edge. The democratic 2020 contenders like senator Kamala Harris see no need for caution, though. Watch. I believed congress should take the steps toward impeachment. But im also a realist. Republicans hold a majority. I have not seen any evidence to suggest they will be on the facts instead of on partisan adherence to being protective of this president. And that is what concerns me and what will be the eventual outcome. So we have to be realistic about what might be the end result, but that doesnt mean the process should not take hold. Melissa republican mike turner sits on the House Intelligence Committee says there is plenty of work that Congress Needs to do instead of focusing on investigations, and he felt Speaker Pelosi forgiving energy to a movement to investigate the president. I think theres a lot of dissension in the party. At the same time, she is giving tremendous encouragement to this investigation ad nauseam. They should be working on issues such as russia and china, north korea and iran. But she has encouraged adam schiff and his minions to continue their pursuit of donald trump as if hes the most snagged a threat to our security instead of our foes. Its circumventing room were going to be done. Melissa reporting of the white house believes there is no chance that proceedings will begin, and even if it did, it would be a gift for the president. One Administration Official telling the publication, the white house is so unconcerned that it doesnt currently have a strategy in place for responding to impeachment proceedings. Charlie do you believe there is no plan because they dont think its going to happen . Do you think its smart . Charlie i believe there is some plan. If the democrats really want to go forward with these articles of impeachment and lets just say in a hypothetical world that it passes. It wont go to the center. Everyone knows theres have only been to president s impeachment only a few removed. Another letter i word independence. Unemployment going down, which is going up, piece happening across the world. They want to see that president in php are people in the middle want to see unity, bipartisan reform, and if the Democrats Use their energy on that, they will lose independents in 2020. Melissa there is someone focus on impeachment and wants it, and that is tom steyer, who took out an ad. Saying, its all here, ten detailed acts of obstruction of justice. The Robert Mueller report lays out impeachment for the president. It goes on to say, congress, do your job. Im tom steyer. But that message out. Obviously very influential in the party. What does that mean . Leslie i interviewed tom steyer and asked him point blan blank, because to Kamala Harris point, there are realities. If it passes the house, you have a division among the most centrist like he of the republican majority in the senate and we have history o look to. What happens there republicans would build president Dominic Clinton what dominic was impeached . Newt gingrich what he said is, and some people in congress feel this way, maybe on the fence as to whether they will be on aocs side or pelosis side of his argument which is that progress has a responsible lead to the american people, to constitution, to do the investigation. Even if it wont pass in the senate, bring the articles of impeachment because of their position. Not just their position, their congressional responsibility to have oversight over the executive branch. Specifically the president. And he looked to two issues obstruction and witness tampering. Katie i think its amazing that we are calling nancy pelosi a moderate democrat now. Shes always been an extremist. We just have more extremists in the party. Leslie she is pretty moderate. Katie weve gone from bob mueller as the end all be all, we trust what hes going to say, we will protect him, blodgett we wanted to introduce legislation to protect them. Multiple times they wouldnt vote on it. And here we are, without any kind of collusion and democrats want to focus on and obstruction kind of you that the attorney general says doesnt play out. My question for democrats you subpoenaed down again yesterday to come in front of the intelligence committee, or the House Oversight committee. Out of the 30 hours of what he testified in front of mueller about which is in the report what are you going to find based on the resources that you have as investigators that bob mueller didnt find . The answer is nothing. Democrats have the benefit of talking about a patient has a talking point for political reasons, and actually the benefit of introducing articles and voting on it because they know its not going to go anywhere. So they will say to their base, we voted on impeachment, we tried, and the republicans didnt want to hold the administration accountable. When it comes to how we feel by the mueller investigation, at this point most people think it was a witch hunt and his credibility went down by the end of the investigation. People just want to move on. Its a doubleedged sword but i think the white house is more prepared than they are letting on for the investigation. Jillian and to your point about it being a talking point, for someone like Kamala Harris who knows that her base loves the impeachment talk they will keep talking about it. For the rest of the democrats, i feel like we know that there is no collusion. So we knew people would hang onto something. You knew they would still pounding the pavement about something. Thats one of those things. Melissa for Kamala Harris jillian the democratic base. Melissa her area of the country, what she represents now, loves impeachment. But if shes going for a broader vote and shes trying to run for president , does it still makes sense for her, charlie . Charlie in manhattan and malibu, impeachment is very popular. Leslie theres a few other cities. Charlie in manhattan, kansas, its not as popular. All kidding aside, Middle America is starting to see the revitalization that theyve been promised for decades. Which is going up, many fracturing coming back, and implement at record low levels. Just today, they said theres the low ever black and hispanic on employment. The radical left, they are demanding revenge. They have not gotten over the fact that they loss in 2016. This is their way to try and get back at it. At this point i agree congress does have an oversight capacity and authority, 100 . But they also delegated that to Robert Mueller. We were told for two years, give him space, give him years, given 30 million. Now the report comes out and they have no collusion. Katie they said they werent interested in give 30 million. Because mueller was paid thats what they said. Charlie let mueller do it. Ill im confused, will they impeach them for . Because they are upset that they lost . Melissa ten articles of obstruction. Charlie if they had a case of obstruction, he would have referred that. Leslie the difference here is that separating criminal, which was his response building, political, which is enough ago, which is congressional responsibly. Charlie high crimes and misdemeanors. In the constitution is as high crimes and misdemeanors. So what crime have been custom work leslie i know it says in the constitution. The interpretation of the constitution and even former president gerald ford said it impeachment is whatever the House Majority deems it to be at the time. Charlie high crimes and misdemeanors is in the actual language. Nixon was ever impeached. Andrew johnson was for a high crime, clinton was impeached. Melissa at this time yesterday we showed a graphic referencing a treat from resident tribe regarding mitt romneys nomination. The graph should have said 2012, not 2016. We apologize for the error. Coming up, the top democrat on the Oversight Committee accusing the white house of stonewalling after lawyers for President Trump sue to block subpoenas for his personal Financial Information. Is he right, or are democrats taking their trump investigations too far . 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Part two is to make sure we never get in this mess again on the Student Loan Debt, and that is to make college universally available with free tuition and fees. Katie 2020 democratic president ial hopeful, senator Elizabeth Warren, rolling out ambitious liberal policy proposals at a town hall last night. Warren addressing the student debt crisis. Her plan includes canceling Student Loan Debt, eliminating tuition and fees at public colleges, and greater support for minority and low income students. Here is how she would pay for it making super wealthy americans pay more in taxes. I started in several months ago talking about a wealth tax. An ultra millionaires tax. Now that youve got that great fortune, spend just a minute to remember how you got it. And we say, good for you, that you have no gotten this great fortune. But two sense youve got to pay Something Back so everyone else get the chance. Katie critics airplane to be difficult to implement and would spur more aggressive tax avoidance. Meantime, president kennedy and fellow senator Kamala Harris in another town hall saying she will use the power of the pen to counter gun control of congress is not. I will give them 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws. If they fail to do it, then i will take executive action. What i will do is put in her car mentor everyone who sells more than five guns a year they are required to do background checks when they sell those guns. Katie melissa, i want to go to first on the money aspect of the student loan situation. Its complicated. Was your response to Elizabeth Warrens proposal . Melissa how to pay for it is always to tax the rich. Everyone says that every time. Remember when they tried that in france and a whole bunch of people left . Didnt work. The real point was they didnt take in nearly the revenue that they had calculated. 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