Credibility to this no due process hoax, i like the idea and well in order to get congress focused again, strongly consider it. Harris and Melissa Francis coming here today my partner harris faulkner. Host kennedy on the fox business network, capri cafaro, and in the center seat, fox news contributor, andy mccarthy. He is outnumbered. Thank you for being here, we are going to get to the couch in a minute but first we want to go live on capitol hill with the latest from all of this. Hey, melissa. The top democrat in the senate is backing up Nancy Pelosis imitation, saying if President Trump doesnt like what hes hearing, he should show up before the committee and testify under oath. Eight people are set to publicly testify before the House Intelligence Committee over the course of three days. We are set to hear from two people who listened in on that july phone call at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. Jennifer williams, special advisor to Vice President pence and Lieutenant ColonelAlexander Ben ben, our ukraine expert will testify in the morning. Both testified behind closed doors. Williams, according to transcripts, call the phone call inappropriate. The Lieutenant Colonel told lawmakers there was no doubt. Arguably one of the biggest names to watch this week is the u. S. Ambassador to the e. U. Who is set to testify wednesday. A source close tells fox news, on friday evening, david holmes, a u. S. Diplomat based at the embassy told lawmakers he overheard a phone call where President Trump asked about the investigation into the bidens. Spotted on the hill again this morning, had he backed into the classified room where we saw him go in and speak for hours to lawmakers in the basement of the capitol building. Harris melissa thank you h for that, let me bring it out to the couch. I want to look at this big picture, i heard you say the point of this is really to render the president unelectable. One thing ive heard that i think democrats are really underestimating, ive heard this from at least two dozen regular people who arent in this every day saying this, he cant possibly win reelection now if hes being impeached and then these people are checking out, mostly democrats who arent even they think, i dont have to worry about this anymore because hes being impeached, hes for sure not going to get reelected and in that sense they are losing a lot of their audience that would get fire up and go out and supported democratic candidate. One way this could really backfire that i havent heard anyone else talking about. My 9yearold at dinner last night said he cant win reelection because hes being impeached, and i said where did you hear that . All over. It underscores it impeachment is a political process even when its done for a very good reasons. But one of the things the framers were most worried about is the idea that it could be exploited in a partisan way which is an abuse of power by the congress. The two ways i think it hurts them are not only what you are suggesting which is that it becomes the assumption out there that he cant be reelected, that will undermine the fervor to go out and work against his election. The other end of the two edged sword for the democrats is if it becomes obvious, palpable that this is a partisan political exercise masquerading as an impeachment effort, under circumstances where nobody actually thinks the president is going to be removed from power, nobody sensible anyway, they will be penalized for politicizing and putting the country through this process which is a very fraught to process and that was precisely why the framers made it so hard to do. Harris really quick, should he testify that way you saying . First of all, for the presidency its a terrible idea. One of the other things the framers were worried about is that impeachment might give congress too much power over the president. They wanted the branches to be separate and defer to each other in their proper realms of responsibility. The congress has every right to do oversight over the administration and to explore executive wrongdoing. They cant call the president to testify and the president shouldnt put himself in a position to testify in proceeding that is obviously political. This is not a situation where its like hes going into a court of law where there will be an impartial judge and an improper question gets asked from the beginning here. Our judge will step in, this is our rancorous partisan proceeding and to have the president himself be injected to it would be bad for the country. Harris does that then expose them or open the door, and locked subpoenas and do whatever are they open to do what they need to do to get the law off their back . Thats a great point, hes already compromised his position to argue that hes got executive privilege and a lot of this should remain confidential so he undermines that legal position and the other thing, harris, that he undermines is his position from the beginning has been that this is a clown show, a kangaroo court. To go behind and legitimize it, i dont see the point of that. Harris he says hes going to do that in order to get congress moving, there are hundreds of bills and melissa and i go back and forth, but nonetheless there is some kind of work getting moved on. Let me ask a question based on logic, not that logic has anything to do with this but what is there about the Mueller Investigation and the president s agreement to provide written answers to the Mueller Investigation that makes anybody think that this would shortcircuit the process . To my mind all it does is extend it. Melissa we are confirming this report thats been out in the past little bit that the house of representatives is now investigating whether President Trump lied to special counsel mueller in the answers he provided in the russia investigation. Capri, that gets more fuel on the fire to get rid of him anyway you can. Do you worry about that . The people ive talked to who disengage, i dont have to worry about him anymore. Capri ive said this a million times, that there is investigation fatigue amongst the american public, had we started this process now on this specific and only specific issue about ukraine and quid pro quo, et cetera, maybe this process would have a little more legitimacy and a lot more attention by the american public. Thats not what happened. I want to go back for a minute and address what andy was saying about whether the president should or should not testify. I will be really quick. Obviously what we just heard about mueller, i agree with what you said as far as it eroding the institutions, i want to play devils advocate on this and say that it might actually be helpful for President Trump to testify for two reasons. As a sitting president he is not potentially an jeopardy of being charged with perjury and he ends up controlling the message entirely. The impeachment is going to be on for three days a week on television, guess who gets to own it if he shows up . President trump. Andy i dont think the witnesses that testified already think they on the narrative because they appeared, i think they would tell you that adam schiff owns the narrative. Kennedy i have to agree with capri here, the president loves to spar with these people, he would love nothing more to show the people who are so supportive of him that he is ready to go there and throw down because he believes hes innocent. It does further polarize the process but in a polarized environment, who wins . The chaotic candidate. The democrats have a long ways to go before they have a nominee and the longer they go the more damage they do to each other. Even if you have Michael Bloomberg and Hillary Clinton entering the race it still may not be enough, used on a wound of entire field. The president , lets say he doesnt want to be president anymore, go ahead and testify. Lets say he doesnt he wants a big win, he wants to show everyone hes are in command and hasnt done anything wrong, i think its a no lose for him. Melissa what about this report, did he lie during the statement, the Mueller Investigation . Andy of course they are investigating that, thats been their position throughout, all they are doing it now broadcasting it as their position. At this point a lot of the things that have been kind of in the air for a long time are now being made explicit and i think all thats being done to do is contribute to the atmosphere around the hearing. Harris really quickly, kennedy, your name was set at every gathering i was at this weekend. We were covering this on friday when it happened, when there was that or thursday, when there was that big pop up of a tweet in the middle of the impeachment inquiry hearing, that was friday. Kennedy that was friday and just as adam schiff is being unprofessional and emotionally when he comes out and gives press conference and tells the world how much to say and disdain he has for the president , advertising his lack of objectivity, i dont think the president needs to react to all of this in real time. Its fine if hes watching but that could be more problematic and do much more harm than good. So i called him a big dumb baby. Harris hashtags everywhere. Melissa reaction pouring into three highprofile war crime hazes. We will bring you both sides of the debate, plus a Huge Development in the 2020 race, Pete Buttigieg surging in a new iowa poll. Should other candidates be worried . 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The campaign also asked for donations, saying it had to hit oh two milliondollar fundraising goal by wednesday to invest in necessary resources. 2 million is no small change, kennedy, but bernie and maureen can do that. I dont know, joe biden . Kennedy bernie, warm rain, and Pete Buttigieg have done really well with their fundrai. Pete buttigieg, all his campaign focus has to be, pete buttigi buttigieg, im not a communist and amy klobuchar, unfortunately her slogan is i eat salad with a comb and she hasnt been able to shake that. There are rational democrats going, this guy says the people who really needed can get it but for those who already have insurance medicare for all who want it. Capri i think the reason mayor pete is surging, i think there are a lot of mainstream democrats frustrated with the lurch to the left and heres someone who is outside the beltway, small town mayor in the midwest who is offering something totally different in the sense that hes not a retrend like joe biden and a socialist like the rest of the guys. Harris president obama is weighing in on this. Even as we push the envelope and we are bold in our vision, we also have to be rooted in reality. The average american doesnt think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it, what is that code for . Dont lurch to the left . Andy its code for stay away from warren, i dont think they are worried about bernie as much. Joe biden is a sinking ship, it has always seemed to be that harris apparently you can see the ocean. I have seen the ocean and a sinking ship. Biden was never a viable president ial candidate, hes not better now than he was then when they didnt want him hes never look like hes up to this and the other thing, people in the Trump Campaign and on the republican side and i consider myself on that side look at Pete Buttigieg and say he cant win. If the 75,000 votes in five counties and three states switched over, we would not be talking about a populist revolution, wed be talking about conventional person of the establishment, mrs. Clinton won the expected election. Harris ive never seen you not like that, its like we are at lunch having the same lovely food. Capri as a mainstream democrat i am frustrated by the current crop of candidates and i think joe biden has created a very presented himself with a very lackluster performance, i think South Carolina may be the only primary that he wins in the first four contest. I think Pete Buttigieg is rising because at least hes presenting himself as someone who is rational and is different, like barack obama in 2008. Harris i want to get to a monmouth poll that shows today that his support among black voters is still at 1 . Hes got some challenges. Melissa hes got a bunch of challenges, i thought it was interesting to hear somebody describe him, that his populist message is getting through. Its so trendy right now to be a populist. What does that actually mean, power to the people and democrats in all forms from Pete Buttigieg all the way up to the top bar against that, they are for a concentration of power in the hands are very few in washington. Both power and money all controlled by washington. The opposite of what a populace is so when they try to say he is a populist base of the democrats right now which i heard at least three times today, please go back and look at your definition, there is nothing populist and democrats have nothing to do with each other. Harris really quickly because i brought it up, the Washington Post is reporting about that stock photo that was put out, and adverb Pete Buttigiegs outreach to the black Community Called the douglas plan and they figured out it was a contract, some kind of Marketing Firm that accidentally pulled that photo of the canyon mom and child and thats imploding out there but its frustrating it frustrates things for Pete Buttigieg and a community where hes going to need the votes. Kennedy we have to not be careful not to lump an entire group of people into one monolithic group. And thats not how voters vote regardless of where they are from. If Pete Buttigieg really believes in this message, he has to go out and do what hes done in iowa and New Hampshire and thats me people and talk to them and go to their homes and go to their Community Centers and sell his message and look them in the eye. Harris i only bring it up because its in the headlines today. Andy its to make it still goes to why people look at this and say maybe its not ready for prime time. Harris a new report finds border arrests surging under President Trump but deportations are down compared to those under president obama. What do all the numbers mean and democrats, the impeachment inquiry hearings a game changer, Senate Republicans are republicans reportedly dont think so. Great news for my fellow veterans. Va Mortgage Rates have dropped to near record lows. The newday team is working overtime so every veteran can save 2000 a year. p wri wwithout it, i cannot write myl tremors wouldname. Xtreme. I was diagnosed with parkinsons. 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