Guests. Her heart is socalled it helps keep her bloated liver on ice. I am here with a drunk joanne snow saw chin ski. Joanne nosuchunsky. And he is a cat peter in an ugly sweater. It is andy levey. His whit is drier than a wet load of laundry. It is tom coder. Thats interesting. And he has more brains than frankensteins lab. Next to me, reason Magazine Editor and chief matt welch. A block. The lede. Thats the first story. Could headhunters stop beheading . State Department Spokeswoman and my mixed doubles partner says the west needs to look at root causes of terrorism like the lack of jobs. Behold her brilliance. We are killing a lot of them, and we will keep killing more of them. We cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of war. We theyd in the medium we need in medium and longer term to lead people to join these groups whether it is lack of opportunity for jobs. We can work with countries around the world to improve the government. We can help them build their economy so they can have Job Opportunities for these people. It is like bathing in butter. It has become so serious that the Obama Administration organized a threeday conference. It is not two. It is three. The white house summit on countering violence extremism began on tuesday with joe biden yes, that one. Moderating a discussion on countering extremism. On wednesday look at that, there was a presentation called International Issues and perspectives followed by a break out session on women and violent extremism. And then lunch. I am joined by two roosters, big red and scratch. We are going to have to leave it there big red and scratch. I hate it when they talk over each other like that. You cant get anything out of it. They just let each other speak, then we might be able to reach some sort of conclusion. It is like this on cable everywhere. It drives me crazy. Why are the root causes not important . We all know they are not important. At some point like with a urd inker on the street or a School Shooting or anything the root cause is the person who pulled the trigger. And it is what they were doing and what they were thinking as they did it. You have to look at that first. All of it is yes and yes buttisms. It is the chompsky approach. Remember in 2007 when obama wouldnt wear the American Flag pin . Oh we remember. I am not going to do that thing you need to do. And then he realized he may win the presidency he put it back on. I think right now he is taking the pin back off. If his last two years the pin is off. The pin is off. We will go full i hope he sits on it. No that was mean. That was really mean. He is taking the pin out of the grenade. Now he doesnt care. Now he is throwing the grenade on to america. By the way, the problem with the root cause argument is every root cause has a root cause. That has a root cause. It is like when you look at yourself in a mirror with the mirror behind you it never ends. I do it all the time. Yes i do and it scares me. Should job fares beheld in syria and iraq . No. First of all her statement we cannot kill our way out of the war is ridiculous. Did yogi bear raw write that . And in world war ii the japanese were just as fanatical and said they would Never Surrender and we killed our way out of the war, sadly but we did. I think the jab fare crap there is a lot of poverty in india and there is a lot of poverty in Southeast Asia and the buddhists are not beheading people. Poverty in southern pennsylvania and the amish are not beheading people. We have to call it what it is, radical islamic terrorism and they wont do it. It is infuriating. Thats a good point. You killed your way out of a walmart on occasion. Do you think do you feel she is kind of part of an improve group when she speaks . I am waiting for accents or Something Else to happen. I dont know. I think a lot of it has to do with she is a woman . Is that what you were going to say . What she says and how she says it, i think a lot of it is the delivery. It is like an over eager grad student who finally really believes in what they are saying and trying to get everyone else on board, but no one really is. To interrupt, you heard what she said that everyones reaction is because she is being too sophisticated. Well that went right over my head. She is offering an american solution to a problem that is not rooted in america at all. This is not about economics or politics. It is theology. Leak you are saying, you like you are saying, you have to define what something is which this administration wont. It refuses to say its relimbing general at all. Its religion at all. And then as a root cause how will you fight that . Exactly. I guess you have to get kelly girl over there. But then got knows what will happen. Or kelly services. It is now called kelly services. Andy, i dont know why you are shaking your head. We have been very hard on marie hart. Do you think we are being too hard on her . She is really good on harrow. I didnt see that show. She is not completely wrong. Better jobs and less poverty would probably lead to fewer foot soldiers. Thats not an argument. Let me finish it would lead to fewer foot shoal yes, sirs for the terrorist leaders. They are pretty much well educated. They are not starving. They are fine. You cant fight something if you dont name what it is. Tell me about it. You cant go after the root causes if you refuse to identify what the actual problem is. The Islamic State has made it really easy for us. They put the word islamic in their name. They made it clear there is an ideology. It is their interpretation of islam. But our government runs around pre end iting none of this is true and they christiansplain that these people are not true muslims. That to me and then you have eric holder today blaming the whole thing only fox news cares about calling it islamic no, just call it what it is. I dont understand why that is a problem. It is crazy. I think she is right that you cant kill your way out of it. We cant just drop an atomic bomb every time people arent doing what we cant we, matt . But there is a way to talk about this right . You cant iraq and of a tban stan iraq and afghanistan didnt turn out the way we wanted them to through lack of effort. Some improbables are difficult to solve. There is a way to say that. I dont mind it as an academic point, but there has to be a way to talk about it differently. They go academic. They never think of themselves as the leader of 317 million people. That was an academic point. Thats something you would hear from a grad student. Oh yeah there were bad things that happened 800 years ago. You are the president for gosh sakes. And it is insulting i dont know why i didnt realize this. Comparing this modern strain of islam to something that happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago what you are basically saying is you people are not advanced. So it is an insult. He has is yeah. All we need is time i am for boots on the ground. I know not everybody is. Hopefully with more summits and workshops we can figure this out. Im sure there was a vegetarian lunch option which is going above and beyond in the wrong direction. If you are in the last two years of your presidency, the only summits you should have should be like some middle eastern leaders shaking hands. It shouldnt be a talk shop. All symbolism. I just how can she be in charge of this . It makes me spit. Well she is not in charge. She is in charge of something. I am not. It ticks me off. Maybe i am just jealous. How did she get that job . I am doing a 3 00 a. M. Show. It is like you were saying in the office today. Why is a woman doing a job that you should be doing . Exactly. You just wish you could wear your glasses on camera. Exactly. It is to the fair i tell you. She is taking a mans job. I am actually performing a bit of satire for those at home who would like to take that out of context. Go for it. His mate was bait. 5 german newspaper a yes, sir han newspaper, they have them there, who was a high profile member of isis was unknowingly married to an fbi spy. The newspaper reports that denise cusper, he was a womanizer fathering three kids before leaving to join the terror org. It is not clear where the honey trap was sprung they say the agent provided regular updates on his activities. It helped lead to the u. S. Designating him as a terrorist. Said one official, we are already a longtime in the bedrooms of the terrorists. I get the sense the bedroom was a futon it is true. Another spy acted as the girl end from of an isis leader. I believe we have tape of her. Lets say what we are thinking. That is a talent. I say the sleeping with the enemy thing is something we saw in movies. It is actually part of your job. Have you seen the james bond movie . It is him sleeping with hot ladies. It is not like having him sleep with a terrorist. Quite often the woman will drug the man and he can be apprehended or water boarded and this didnt happen. The phak that our spy the fact that our spies sleep with the terrorists does this offend your snowden loving heart, you tray traitor . The only thing that could make the story any better is if they caught the guy or killed the guy or Something Like that. At some point you stop believing the honey traps exist. It is a hollywood thing and it is for making us believe all of these things can exist. This is what i want our spies to do. A lot of the snowden people are upset we are spying on the germans and the french. I dont care. Spy on bad guys abroad. If it means honey traps great. Have some honey traps that lead to capture. They are not all going to be abroad. Some will be attractive men and thats where i come in. Would you do this if your country asks you to . Of course, i am a patriot. I will do whatever my country asks but i will blow it. Whoa excuse me. You went there. I didnt go there. Everybody went there. Listen this is why i am never getting married. People lie. I would end up being the one falling for the evil doer. It does give me a lot of hope that there are Undercover Missions and they are gaining a lot of intel is that what you call it . Yes. It looks like nothing will ever happen from our country. Sleep your way to victory is what i say. Does it make you wonder that perhaps the cats you live with are working for the government . The only comment i have on that is nothing on the story increased or lessened my suspicion about. Obviously the main take away from this story is as we were saying women cant be trusted. We were talking about that earlier. I have to say that this story does make me appreciate the sacrifices mike baker has made for the country. This guy has a loving wife at home. He is out there engaging in Sexual Activity and a lot of it is probably very, very kinky with exotic women who are enemies of america in the cia to keep us safe. And then i wonder if his wife knows this or if this is the thing he has kept secret dreading the day she might find out and then it just makes me worry. I am so glad you are concerned about mike baker and his home life. I am. You should probably email him and have him watch the show. I will tweet him. Should Reality Stars colonize mars . Finalists were picked for a trip to the purple planet. Mars 1 hopes to launch the mission in 2024 and to cover the cost that is 1200. They will televise the rest of the competition. 200,000 people applied to turn their back on earth for after. Forever. 2 tour will be trained and four will get to go. Anyone over the age of 18 can go except red headed people. Thats reasonable. Here is the trailer. Thats upbeat. Applicants must go through a tough internet process. Would you do it . Yeah. I would want to see what it is like. Wow, that is. Tom if they televise this competition, the odds are we are going to get a lot of l. A. Based actors going to mars. Isnt that right . Thats what happened to the bachelorette. Those arent normal people. People from nebraska is what you need. What we should do is actually establish the califate on mars. If you are sending letters, greg gutfeld. I think we should send kanye west bieber and pelosi and send them actually to the sun instead of mars. A little harsh . I like that idea though about isis. They love the camera. All of that attention. And they live in air arid areas. Mars is not much different. I have never been. Is this a bad thing . Mars could in effect be colonized by attractive people. If they pro create it could be a planet of hot people which i have been talking about for decades as a possibility in my lifetime. I think thats great. And you said it at the top, oh we are kidding we dont want them to die. We actually do want them to die. We need people to die. I am not joking actually. We dont have a Space Program anymore functionally in the country. We lost tolerance of people dying in space. Who should die first . It should be Reality Stars so why not sph we need people who are not affiliated with any government and doing some completely jackass style stunt to try to get risk back out in the world and do what we do best which is really bad reality tv shows. You are talking about joanne. It is clearly not happening to you on earth. Maybe mars is it. I know, i keep applying to lots of different shows. I even did the cookoff ones and i dont cook. I would be great at this. They catapult you out there. What if the other three people i was with are awful. If you are not going to hookup, what is the point. Thats all you are looking at. My instagram is working. When i know you cant turn back i would kill one of the other people and say what are you gonna do . I believe that. Lets get one thing out of the way right now. None of these people are going to mars. This is a publicity stunt. They dont have the ability to do this. My guess is this is a couple of dudes finding out a way to meet fit women. They said oh lets pretend we are going to mars and we will get the applicants and they have to be in good shape. And we have to film them. I think thats exactly what is going on here. I have the best solution. If you want to go to mars we have 6 billion people . Everybody builds one stair. You build 6 billion stairs and you are at mars. Brilliant. Some people think i am just a talk show host, but i solve problems. They talked about a planet elevator. Why not a stair . Ketchup, a popular con condiment, or the mutilated reinsurance ma remanence of a potato. Does pot make you go crazy . Cannibus . More like cantibus. A new study leaked to the daily mail claims that strong cannibus causes one in four cases of psychosis. Thats like 25 . Researchers cram the users who smoke researchers claim those who smoke skunk will experience a psychotic episode. And they were more likely to be daily smokers and smoke the stronger bud. What a surprise. The researchers say there is a, quote urgent need to inform kids about the hypo10 see of cannibus high potency of can cannibus. Here is what happened when one pot smoker was not happy with her haircut. That is no hoax. Matt, are you a libertarian which means you are for cyanide cigarettes being sold to children. Exactly. But is there something wrong with this study . Sure because it was published by the daily mail. It appeared in the daily mail. It appeared in the daily mail. And it is 16 to 24yearolds in england and whales. They were able to peel them out of the closing hour of the publics. Pubs. If you think of the psychotic episodes one in four are due to smoking powerful weed and the other three were doing more powerful substances. Pot is the most popular drug that is not alcohol that is out there. If you are going to be counting things you will have more things happen to you on pot than you are on cocaine and on acid and on shrooms because most people dont do that every day right . So it just it does make sense. My problem is if you do anything every day it suggests that you do too much and you are bound to have a problem anyway that may lend itself to a psychotic episode. So it almost is the chicken or the egg question. Or it is the cart or the horse. I dont have any other analogies, tom. You have a lot of mental problems. I do. Was it from the use of skunk. I want to know where i can get some of that. I occasionally smoke marijuana. I dont have i am on an over the counter antidepressant. No one is saying vodka should be banned or anything. Remember reefer madness . Yes. This is peopleville fying marijuana. Marijuana is a good drug, a peaceful drug. It was in the peace pipe. The native americans passed it between the waring tribes. Is that true . Yes. The only thing you tack on to pot is a rice crispy thing. I dont believe the whole psychotic thing. I dont know. I am for the de criminalization and legalization, but i also feel i have to be realistic andy, if there are indeed potential dangers because now if it is legal there are more people using it maybe it is not more. Maybe it is less. You have to acknowledge that there is a risk, right . I totally agree, but i just dont think the study getting back to your cart and the egg i think it was. Yes. It could be that people who are prone to psychosis smoke more pot. It could be not that hard core skunk users develop schizophrenia or by polar disorder or those who had the symptoms smoked pot to help them deal with their psychosis, or it could be that the people who were maybe prone to psychosis were triggered by smoking a lot of skunk. But it is perfectly fine for most people. The problem is none of these studies do a good job of looking at the cause and effect stuff. You end up with there are studies that show one thing and then studies that show it is the other way around. And there are studies that show a third thing greg. I dont know what the third thing is, but they show it. I dont think we can ingest a drug every day of the life and it is automatically okay. It may well be bad for you. I agree. You have to ep could doing these studies. I agree with you completely. That was boring. We had to sit here. How many were there . 17 things. There were three. We canted three, but there were six or seven. There were so many words on the screen. There really was. If you divided the words by the thing, it was like i think it is sill sill labelles. It is like food poisoning. You always get from the same chinese place. You get your pork ribs and then occasionally you just get a bad batch. Which is great. You eat more because it is free and it went right out. This is a great argument for lowering the drinking age. You want the kids to get hooked on alcohol well not hooked. I have never had a bad trip on vodka. No, you havent. But you tripped a lot. Some of them are bad if i hurt myself. But, yeah. We just dont call those episodes psychotic. We call them episodes. They call 911 because you punched somebody in the face. Episodes in koll are always vie ep episodes in alcohol are always violent. Others you are sweating and thinking you are going