Private. Mr. Vice president , you cant have it both ways. You and president obama more than anybody this this campaign. You cant do it when its convenient then dodge it when its not. Dana biden responding a short time ago. Watch this. I just want to make the point that some of these assertions being made were absolutely how can i say it nicely . Not true and taken out of context. If they really meant what they said, they wouldnt have done a lot of things they did dana former aide to president obama, luke thompson, found at National Review and juan williams, fox news political analyst cohost of the five along with me. I wanted to start with the obama attacks. It was interesting. Obama wasnt there to defend himself. Biden kind of defended him, but not altogether. Take a listen to what rahm emanuel former chief of staff to president obama said about this earlier today. The guys 90 some percent among democrats. The most successful progressive prolific president who had an incredible chief of staff, let me just say that, since the Great Society. What are they doing . Every element of progressivety, from literally Ted Roosevelt to Franklin Roosevelt to the Great Society and forward builds on the progress of generations before for generations to come. This is nuts. Dana other former obama supporters and staffers saying they think the same. Here was eric holder saying to my fellow democrats be weary of attacking the obama record. There is little to be gained by attacking a successful and still Popular Democratic president. Johanna, let me go with you first because you were there during the obama years. I know what its like to go through a republican primary. Its interesting to watch the democrats go through it now. I think democrats have selective amnesia about how we are elected. I was there in the trenches. So the very beginning of the Iowa Caucuses when everybody was like, theres no way a guy named Barack Hussein obama will get elected. I watched. Initially people came to our events because people were popular. But they stayed there when he started telling the fired up, ready to go story. He told a story about leadership, when we all come together. He would compliment some of the policies of the republicans. It even cost him in some of the debates. But he was building consensus. I think that were going to have to get back to those roots to win the general election. I agree with eric holder, i think weve got to transition to how we talk about building on what president obama said, which was a database fueled economy that has long lasting longevity if we invest in clean technology, innovation. Dana luke, do you feel like the democratic party, that the gravitational pull has been so far to the left that even president obama would have been left alone last night . There are two real splits where democrats today are not where democrats were when obama was president. Thats on healthcare which is very much contested, and immigration where theres a new consensus with the Democratic Administration under obama. But a lot of this is bidens fault. Hes using obama as a blanket. Every time he gets in trouble, he screams obama and tries to get out of it. That puts all the democrats in a position of attacking biden without attacking obama. Dana what do you think about that, juan . I think a lot of this is about black voters. You have to understand that part of bidens appeal and, in fact, the consistent lead hes held in the polls in this democratic race, is based on, one, that he was a very good Vice President to the first black president. Secondly, that he is viewed as the most electable with regard to beating donald trump. So if youre talking to black voters and youre Kamala Harris, cory booker, even if youre bill deblasio, youre saying, wait, i want to separate him a little bit from president obama. And to do that, you have to call him on differences. You say, hey, do you know what . We dont like what president obama did. We think he was far too moderate with republicans, especially now in the era of donald trump, that democrats view as extreme. We want more of an angry strong voice and too often we feel obama was sort of middling in milk toast especially if youre talking about black lives matter and some of the younger black accidents out there. Im not sure, by the way, that this works with the older black crowd that is the base for joe biden. Dana i cant imagine that it does, but well see. Joe biden being the front runner. You knew attacks would come. I suggested last night on the five i said he would be prepared for attacks from Kamala Harris and cory booker but i believe senator gillibrand would come up with something obscure on bidens 36 year record. I was proven right. Let me just tell the audience that we know. Dana i think it was kind of distasteful. Take a listen. He wrote an op ed that he believed that women working outside the home would, quote, create the deterioration of family. He also said that women who were working outside the home were, quote, avoiding responsibility. What did you mean when you said when a woman works outside the home its resulting in, quote, the deterioration of family. Dana he went on to explain what he meant by that and all was talking about his own family situation, which he lost his wife and child. He was a single dad for awhile. His current wife, she had gone on to work the entire time they were together. The biden team found this. Kirsten gillibrand thanking him for your unwaivering commitment to combatting violence against women. She was challenging him. I understand why she wanted to go after him, to have a moment. I didnt think it was a good one. No. We need to Start Talking to men and women about family values. Like the truth is, i know joe biden. I have worked with him when he was Vice President. He is one of the most kind, warm people. He has lost family members. He knows what thats like. I was super pregnant sitting outside jay carnies office for a meeting. Hes like, oh my god. Can i touch it . Dana that might not help his cause. Can i tell you that when he met my son, he did the same exact thing. Because that is who he is. Dana she was trying to suggest, luke that joe biden thinks that womens place is in the home. She had a talking point. She didnt have a story. There is a narrative about joe biden being overly handy with women, being inappropriate, but that wasnt the point she was making. She kept saying why did you write this one op ed . Why did you write this one op ed . For the first time of the night we really saw joe bidens able skills as a debater. He deflected it and moved on and made her look reduced. Dana i want to ask you, juan, about senator sanders. That was the night before. Comparing and contrasting the nights were very different. You had warren and sanders on the first night. Heres sanders this morning talking about what differentiates him from Elizabeth Warren. You and Elizabeth Warren, as most pundits seem to indicate, will make that next debate. How will you differentiate yourself from her . Youre too progressive. Ill tell you, ill let you and the punditry and the American People make that decision. All i can say wait a minute. What is the single what is the biggest difference between you and senator sanders . You have to draw a distinction, senator. No. No. I have to tell the American People what i believe. Dana juan, at some point sanders and warren are going to have to figure out a way to go at each other because they need those votes from the same people. Its the same bucket. Im curious about this, because so far what i see is warren rising, sanders declining, in terms of support. I think that, you know, somewhat touches on what we were discussing a moment ago when you had gillibrand going at biden. I think part of that argument was about age and that hes older and that he has a different view of women and a different view of whats appropriate. Dana he says mularky. Some take it as folksy. Others think that he lost a little vigor or, as President Trump says, sleepy joe, right . In that contrast between warren and sanders, i think lots of people now see her as vibrant, aggressive, able to deal with trump on a debate stage and wonder about him. What i hear from people oftentimes is sanders comes across as a rerun of what he did last time. Dana doesnt feel like there was too much new with sanders . I think we saw the best Bernie Sanders that were going to see on the stage. He was funny, energetic and he hit his point. But they were the same points that he was hitting four years ago. More broadly, bernie has no strategic reason to attack warren. He has a solid base that will get him to iowa. Even though his numbers are going down, if he starts at tacking warren, hes going to look desperate. There are voters she can get on her side better than by attacking bernie. Dana it seems almost if the democrats decided to put their worst face forward, their disagreements overwhelmed almost Everything Else and attacks on trump were infrequent. In the absence of a message of hope, a big missed opportunity. Is that kind of what you were talking about at the beginning here . Yeah. I think even more so, weve got to perfect our messaging to get across to the American People. In terms of warren and bernie, what theyre doing is kind of coop significants. Dana what does that mean . They have competing theyre competing for the same voters, but theyre trying to bring up their ideas on healthcare and i would say trade because theyre aligned in some of those ways, trying to draw people to their side. I think that Elizabeth Warren is probably the most likely to get frustrated with it first because shes proposing the plans. Where as bernie dana were going to bring the panel back because weve got more to talk about. Actually, we dont have you coming back. Come back another day. I just want to show you this, juan, real quickly. These are ones who already qualified for the third debate. Biden, booker, buttigieg, sanders, warren, orourke. Is there anyone you saw on the last two days that you think could make to it the September Debates . Castro. I think castro did very well in both debates and has the potential. He already has some in terms of the polling, but not necessarily the donors. I may have that backwards. One or the other. I think hes in position to make it up. Dana i think it was gillibrand that ended with, help, i need the donors. I thought it was a fascinating couple of days. Glad you are here. Ill see you a little bit later on the five. The candidates screaming from the stage, rushing back to the trail campaigning in towns big and small across america. Joe biden out today discussion his rival, saying he has the best path forward because his views represent the vast majority of democrats. Theres a lot of really, really good people who got elected who are really pushing the envelope. Its good. Its healthy. But the idea that they represent what the party is today does not convert to who gets elected. Does not comport with how we got elected in 2018. Its a totally legitimate debate to have. Dana peter doocy is keeping track live in detroit. He said it does not comport. That must be the word of the day, peter. Reporter well, there might be more words of the day. Were going to hear from Kamala Harris, who he butted heads down the street from me here in detroit. Kamala harris and beto orourke, over the next couple of days, are the two candidates with the most events on their schedules. Theyre the ones trying to capitalize on what they believe, each of them, each of their campaign staffs believe were strong performances on the debate stage. Harris and orourke have six events each that are spread out geographically. On saturday, everybody is going to be in las vegas though for what they call a cattle call wrrbg they essentially round up the democrats to talk to one big auditorium of people. This time it will be Las Vegas Union workers. Gillibrand not going to be there. She will be back on the east coast instead for a sunday brunch that is a private event, but you can go if you want to donate 250 to her campaign. And dont forget, mary anne williamson, who made a big splash and introduced herself to a lot of people who may not have been paying attention to her campaign over the last couple of months. She is going to try to keep the attention on her with events at a yoga center and a sunday services at the center for spiritual living. Dana i heard she is in the way in organization is super important in these early states. A few months ago i heard that she was organizing and getting the word out at yoga studios in New Hampshire and iowa. Pretty good strategy. I just had this panel on. We were talking about last nights debate. Kamala harris was the declared winner of the previous debate. I didnt even bring her up this time around. Maybe she just didnt do that well. Does her team think they did better than we do . Reporter senator harris said it herself in one of the post debate interviews. She said she believes people attacked her and harris admitted this is an immodest thing to say, but harris was the target of attacks from lower polling candidates because she thinks others on the stage consider her to be somebody in the top tier with a real threat of capturing the nomination. And so the harris team thinks that she defended herself well. They also think that her explanation of a Healthcare Plan that Bernie Sanders particularly has been assailing as not close enough to medicare for all. The harris team told me they think she did a good job of establishing what her plan exactly would do last night. Dana. Dana i want to chew on that a bit more. Was it a good idea for her to release the plan ahead of the debate . I dont know everybody was ready to talk about it. We spent about an hour on it last night and well continue to talk about it with you. Thank you. Reporter thanks. Dana ahead we look at the candidates leading u. S. Troops on the world stage. 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Dana good to have you here. Its pretty interesting. I watched both debates all night long. Nobody was talking about impeachment. Whats going on . Well, we didnt get it until the second night. I think thats because they have avoided this because a lot of the smart front runners in particular in the party would rather not have to talk about this issue. Its why, for instance, biden has still not committed himself to this at the end of may he said, well, democrats may have no choice but to go there. They know this is not a winning strategy, yet the numbers continue to mount. Dana lets listen to lindsay graham. He was talking about the Mueller Report. He said there were scare tactics involved. Watch this. Theres two ways to do this. Throw everything, the kitchen sink, hope he pleads to something, or make sure that when you charge them, it will not be under minded because you overcharged. This is what happened with mueller. They tried to scare people into riding on trump. It didnt work. They were overcharged. I hope some of these people