To see catastrophe. He is so close, he can just whisper, this leads me to believe the new popes heavenly patience with the old pope will soon pop. Before long, benedict will be set up in a nice condo, maybe far away on a high mountain, where he can be just left to pray. Mark my words. This will not work out. Some moving out of the vatican. You guess. All right. 8 00 p. M. Fbn. Tonight. I supported him. Voted for him the first time around. Ited a i had hoped because he was black. Shame on me. Black chamber of commerce ripping in the president. He didnt stop there. Why is he so upset . Why is he on me with to talk about it . Why not . Kimberly hello, im Kimberly Guilfoyle with bob beckel, eric bolling, dana perino, greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in new york city. This is the five. Kimberly you are looking live at washington, d. C. Where another fiscal deadline looms. Automatic spending cuts kick in friday unless lawmakers reach a deal. But is this really a crisis . Here on the five, we were ahead of the curve to tell you sequestration isnt going to mean armageddon for america. But the press and Political Class mostly on the left are trying to tell you otherwise. Example number one, the media. We are now within 72 hour of the drastic budget cuts across the american economy. With the budget ax falling the government starts releasing Illegal Immigrants from jail. Slight delays, kids losing vaccine and meat shortages. The consequences they predict grow more dire every day. The question tonight is if its as dire as the white house says it is, why isnt more being done to stop it . Kimberly example number two. The obama administration. It will have a negative impact on the safety of american across the great country. 5,000 Border Patrol agents. Less overtime and ability to hire port officer, the same at the tsa. Longer lines there. 70,000 children would lose access to head start slots. 14,000 teaches who teach those children would lose those jo jobs. Kimberly erroneous. You have a different take on. This they have us think its doom and gloom and no more bay corp. In the bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwiches. Eric you will come get this here because we are the only ones who will tell you the truth. The sequest tration remember how we got here. The debt ceiling debate turned in the simpsonbowles commission which turned in the super committee, the grand bargain. They all failed. The pounding was going to be sequestration. What was the big penalty . Its not so big after all. Take the chart please, show you what it is. Spending is still going to increase. Here is spending. The green area is spending. It continues to increase. The actual sequestration is a fine little skinny little red line that goes up along and guess what . It has almost zero impact on spending. Spending is going to increase in 2012. According to the budget, 2 2. 54 trillion in 13. 3. 7 trillion. It goes up. It will be 4. 4 trillion in outlays. Sequestration will not turn spending in the other direction. Its a fallacy. Kimberly so no real cuts happening is what you are saying. Lack of spenning in other areas. Bob get the crayon out of his hands. That is what it is. Bob come here to get the facts . The facts are its true we will spend more money this year than we did last year. One of the reasons for that is you have increase in entitlements. They are mandatory, automatic. So unless and until both sides have the guts to deal with it, ese are real cuts. Border agentd head start and a lot of things. You may not think its not a big deal but it is because if you keep going back to your number you include entitlements in there. If you take them out, they are real cuts. Why not . The reason why we are here is they wouldnt include entitlements . Bob you are right. Neither one has the guts to deal with it. Eric including obama. Bob exactly. Dana that is a good point. The profiles in courage are lacking in d. C. Because on page five of our sheet it says these things are walled off from the cuts. Social security, veteran programs, medicare you can go on an on. School lunchs, pel grant. All the things are that are hard to do and politically difficult arent on the table. So this stuff is irresponsible way to do the cuts. They have had a yearandahalf to figure out how to do it. The thing is what they have done in the first clip we showed is like pulling the fire alarm in a crowded theater. There is no fire. The crowd rushes to the exits. Except this time, everybody is just sitting there watching the movie going yeah, were good. We know this is a fake fire alarm. Not going to worry about it. Kimberly what you are saying is a good example. Thats criminal. Youre not allowed to do that. Its against the law. Yet they create the hysteria, the armageddon and the accomplices are the media putting it forward. People are believing this stuff. Dana i will defend them a little bit. In some ways people look at this in the media, including the editorial boards are saying well, wait a second, that is actually not the case. Or why didnt you put forward some sort of a plan, mr. President . In particular today we showed the clip about arnie duncan the secretary of education at the, who talking about the teachers who are going to be laid off. Well a reporter did what a reporter is supposed to do. Called the School District and finds out. Its actually not related to the reasons that the notices went out. It was more of a stateoperated thing. They havent checked their facts. They are going too fast. They are going to get to friday and not have a deal. Kimberly greg . Bob you want to Say Something . Greg no. Go ahead. I was joking. Bob okay, go ahead. Greg go ahead. Bob okay, i will. Greg im kidding. I want to move on. Dana makes a point, empty theater but like nightmare on elm street, the first time it was scary. Every subsequent sequal you care less and le about the victims. The problem is we are the victims. We are counting the doordie scenarios we have gone through. Its been eight times. The eruptions are like herpes, they flare up every tree months and you act like its the first time and it goes away an you pretend it never happens and then it happens againment the big picture is not about the eruptions but how we spend overall, which will create inflation. In a few years, the only thing worse less than a buck is obamas word. The media by the way has the memory of an aquarium goldfish. We pretend this is new. We keep repeating that its new. Its not like armageddon, its die hard and you turn on the tv and its on all the time. The spending crisis has been going on forever. What happens, you know what happens at the end . Its just like a midterm final. Everybody crams and they get it done. Lets stop talking about it. Kimberly i think we concluded on it. Bob talk about hysteria. Greg i had to sit here for five minutes listen to the same thing we have done for a yearandahalf, almost two years. Bob im suggesting Something Different here, you can argue the way they presented this thing is a little bit alarmist. It probably could agree with that. This time around this is real and serious and they matter. Greg they are not real. Bob they are. [ overtalk ] Kimberly Eric . Bob there are cuts seven months a on monday they will feel it. Eric they are not cuts. Bob they are too cuts. Eric decreases and increases, slower paces. Janet napolitano does not have to cut 5,000 Border Agents if she doesnt want to. She uses it to scare the begees bob what do you mean . Eric they dont have the furlough all agents if they dont want to. They can make adjustments elsewhere. Kimberly Department Heads can decide. Bob that is why the defense partners go crazy about that because they cant move money around in the budget to get it handled. Dana today, they made an important point. President obama came up in the idea in the first place they never intended it for it to get to this point. In july of last year, memo sent to the agencies said dont worry about the sequester. It wont happen. Go about your business faz the sequester wasnt going to happen, which ended up being irresponsible way to govern. There are ways to plan ahead. The middle managers sid we better think about going forward. There is a way to get more. The president s said okay, mr. President. Go for it. You have the authority. Tell us what you are going to cut. Bob that is an interesting point. The fact that obama has not picked up on me tells me he will go after the tax loophol loopholes. If he decides to do that, the president has the discretion, white house turns it down immediately why do they turn it down . They dont have the leverage. Greg the joke is the philosophy on your side you can spend all you want. Therefore, taxes, tax collection doesnt matter because you dont have to pay off the deficit. What matters is theft. What we talk about in the long run is looting taxpayers until they run out of taxpayers. It will end when they are dea dead. Obama is kevorkian accelerating the process. Kimberly he is in for threeandahalf more years. They dont mind playing chick within the american people. Eric this is bipartisan. This is not just the democrats. Population is up to 111 2 p. C. The budget up 98 . Doubled since 2012. There is no reason for that. There are democrats and republicans. Both sides, what they want to do both sides want to protect the spending. Bob this is greg this is bipolar, not bipartisan. Bob the first sequestration started in 1986. They did have sequestration. Dana the way it was structured was much different. They had it planned out and they agreed on it. It went through committee. This was slapped together so president obama wouldnt go through debt limit fight before the election. Kimberly they are not taking a big hit on this if you look at the political fallout. Both parties are to blame but still. Eric there is another debt ceiling approaching. Greg another round of herpes. Kimberly half the table cant relate to your comment. Eric the government will run out of money unless they do that again, too. Kimberly greg, you have overshared enough with us. Greg he is going until they wipe it out. Kimberly your sponsorship okay. Coming up, how one team tenmile check in the snow is Warming Hearts across america. A stir about determination and going the extra mile, literally. What a story it can teach all of us. Thats next on the five. Stay with us. How do you keep an older car running like new . You ask a ford customer. When they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. If your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. 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Remember sandra fluke who was furious because americans wouldnt pick up the tab for the Birth Control pills . Then come along a good kid. His mom died a couple years ago and he was trying to make ends meet and take care of the siblings. The 18yearold walking ten miles in the snow to apply for a job at a local thrift store. Didnt get that job but was hired by a smart Restaurant Owner who picked up jhaqueil and give him a ride. We beat up on americas youth a lot. Once in a while you got to say hey, more kids should be like him. Greg i beat up on them personally. One thing i dont get, a i go approaching a teenager on the road and its an uplifting story. I do it, i get arrested. Sol rules for some people. Some rules for another. Finally someone gets a job in the obama xy but he has to walk ten miles for it. Dana uphill both ways. Greg meanwhile you have the yahoo ceo pleading with workers to come in to office to work because they are all working at home. She should hire this guy as a v. P. , because he will walk to work. Eric in the snow. Dana can i defend Melissa Meyer of yahoo on that . Greg okay. Dana yahoo was one of the First Companies that allowed for flexibility working from home. They realized this company is in trouble, like you need she thinks that people need to be at the office. I defend her. Greg good for you. Dana though, i dont want to have to. Kimberly i like this story. This is the kind of attitude that you need. Not what you can to for me, what can you hand out for me. An dra fluke, julia entitlement. This kid wants to earn it and provide for his family. I love to watch him this mor morning. Many is the mentality. Teach him to work in the restaurant. He fits in well. In the Restaurant Business you have to hustle. Move fast, work hard, please customers. Thats the kid he wants. He learned from his father and that is how he brings it to personal use and figure out the determination and focus. Greg we beat up on youth because your preoccupation with occupy wall street, particularly yours. Then you they have is an example of youth in america. The millenial generation, the group we talk about gives more volunteer time greg because theyre unemployed. Bob wait. They give more volunteer time. They did better in college. People who really were the slackers were my generation, the babyboomers. They are the ones who inherited a lot of money from their parents and have not done social work they should have. This is a bad economy. Yet, they still manage to get through. They manage to take care of their parents and their kids. This is not an isolated thing in occupy wall street. Across america, millenials are not only the biggest generation, but the enthusiastic generation. Positive about the future of america. They volunteer and they will do fine. Eric wow dana if you look at the first block in washington, d. C. , you remember a timer if leadership of the babyboom generation. None of the problems will get fixed until they move on. Bob babyboom was 46 to 66. Greg technically im a baby boomer. I was 64. Eric none of us were born in any substantial wealth. We all worked hard. We figured out how to make it happen. Bob we did, but they inherit 7 trillion. Amazing. A lot of people maid something of themselves like you. But by an large babyboomers have not been a great generation we talk about. Kimberly i appreciate your optimism today. Not 100 agree with what you say but it was passionate. Bob you listen to greg and you want prozac out of the back pocket. Kimberly doom and gloom. Eric has occupy gone . Are we done with the era . No. Greg if they romanticize the ideology, they will always exist. Thats why you like them. They bash america. You love anything that says america is bad. Bob that is not true. That is false. Take that back. Greg you salute the guys but embrace policy tas cope them down. Bob i embrace beating up on america . Greg you do. 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Greg democrats introduced a bill to create federal department of peacebuilding to reduce the military and also to end bullying. Lee says we invest in pentagon, military academies and the National Defense universities to develop war tactics now. We need that invest in the peace and unviolence here at home. Here is a gutfeld rule. Anything that sounds like a bunch of third graders could have come up with it, will kill you. Department of peace building. What is next . Association of soft hugs . Organization of forgiveness and lunchables . Peace building equals death. Life is not about making peace but keeping peace with peace. The only way to prevent war is through the ability to make war. Its amazing even after the holocaust we elect morons who dont get it. What happens when a western peace group goes abroad . Two things. Propaganda for the enemy or hostages. Enough. Lets face it. Things that sound pleasant are always deadly. Think about it. Jelly fish. Great whites. Joy behar. Lets not forget the slow loris. Oh, yeah, that is adorable. Because its so cute and not fast it attracts predators who it kills by emitting poisen from the skin. Its like dana but she is smaller. We should all be like that . Irresistible and murderous. Kimberly theyre cute. Dana they are cute but they can kill you. If you hug them, they kill you. That is what america is. You invade, we kill you. Bob, why are democrats naive about the world. They beli