We do not want to lose another life in this community, and i am not going to let the criminals that have come out here from across the country or live in this community define this neighborhood and define what were going to do to make it right. Fox news correspondent mike tobin and steve hairrigan were present when things got out of hand. Shots fired. Now they are fired tear gas. Thats in my eyes. A lot of tear gas. Whew my face is on fire. The dignified protesters went home at dusk. This is just childs play right now. [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. Im on tv right now. I dont give a damn. You all on tv. I dont care about this [ bleep ]. You told this is child plays. Steve joins us now. Last night looked intense. How did the rest of the night go and how did today shape up . After that tear gas, things quieted down quite a bit just about 1 00 in the morning. Today, its a vastly different scene. Weve got traffic moving through. Probably about 60 or 70 protesters in total really getting the shade from the mcdonalds building. Its about 90 degrees out here. Things ebb and flow, but then it gets hectic in the night. A lot of different groups have said they dont want their people out on the street protesting after dusk. Theres a good chance we can have a quiet night tonight but we have not seen that so far. Theres been a lot of people reporting 70 arrests, i believe. One of four are from a different place, chicago, detroit, texas, some parts of brooklyn as well. Have you noticed people coming from other places to protest and are they also there to do looting and rioting at night . 78 arrests last night. Of those arrests, only about three or four from this town of ferguson. A lot from missouri, but as you correctly point out some from california or new york. Theres definitely a small sector trying to take advantage of this protest. What the police chief said trying to use it as cover to attack police. They are trying to keep their people back on the curb and trying to prevent an outbreak of violence. Their numbers yesterday as high as a thousand over all. There are people with handguns and people who want to throw molotov cocktails and people who want to protest what they think is a racist divided city and trying to do that in a peaceful fashion. Steve, this is gutfeld. It seems to me when im watching this stuff, the worse it gets, the worse it gets. Meaning as the Media Attention becomes a magnifying glass, it seems to take something and sizzle and burn even more. Do you feel the media is helping this or hurting . I think the media can give a distorted picture a little bit of things. When i go home and watch some of the footage on tv, i hardly each recognize it because the small screen can really capture a sense of violence that i dont really see. It looks like rome is burning when you watch it on tv and basically were talking about an hour area of two square blocks where theres been street protests but the police didnt fire a shot last night. On the other hand, when you talk to people outside of these protests, you really do get the sense that people are angry here. That theres been racism here for decades and they are fed up, so on the one hand tv is giving a misleading picture that the whole city is on fire and its not. On the other hand, there is a real problem here and were bringing attention to it. Andrea. Steve, if you can break down the ratio of how you see the people there, the Peaceful Protesters versus the rioters because weve heard all sorts of information, right . Weve heard another host on another cable chanl say its mostly media in the streets. Weve heard the president yesterday say theres a very small percentage of rioters and protesters, its mostly peaceful. If you can break it down, give us a sense of what its like on the street and who makes up the majority of what you are seeing. It really depends on what time you go out. As of now, theres probably about 70 or 80 people in all. Around 6 00 or 7 00, when it cools off a little bit, we can see up to a thousand. Those are peaceful marchers. Sometimes people pushing kids in strollers. It gets bad around midnight and sometimes theres only 100 people left then, so were talking about a very small amount of people, and among that 100, there might be, you know, four or five with masks on who are ready to throw a molotov cocktail or who have a gun. So a small percentage id say could be violent, but you know its a tense standoff when police are four rows deep with batons and helmets on and theres a crowd of thousand. Thats all it takes is two or three bad people to really set off a spark that could turn things very ugly here very quickly. Bob. Steve, its bob beckle. Can you confirm something for me . I dont want to put you on the spot here. Youve been very busy. Done a great job. Is it the case that Ferguson Police do not have to live in ferguson, to be cops in ferguson . They definitely do not have to live in ferguson. I think the officer in question here did not live in ferguson. Thats what i thought. When you look at the two lines, its basically white police, black protesters. So even though its police and protesters, theres also a whiteblack division thats pretty clear. Steve, its dana. I wonder if you could tell us if the National Guard and Police Department today do they have a new strategy going into tonight . I think thats one of the things thats been a problem that you are getting at. Weve seen a new strategy every day and sometimes within the same day, several strategies. The one strategy that seemed to work was making people march. That calmed things down, thinned out the crowd, kept people moving and kept things peaceful. When they went away from that, thats when strubl really started. The National Guard has been held off in reserve at the command center. We havent really seen them front and center. Weve seen s. W. A. T. Teams, local police. A shift in strategy and a shift in command and even if you are not a expert, when you look at the police lines and seen some of the charges they have made and the show of force, you get the feeling of uhoh, not a whole lot of experience, not a whole lot of calm confidence on the side of police, especially the local forces right now now. I was watching the stuff overnight. Around 10 00 or 11 00, it felt likes things even the story felt like, all right, weve seen this now, and then 1 00 central time, your time, there was another policeinvolved shooting. A man was shot and killed. He was wielding a knife. Police felt threatened. They shot him and killed him. I wanted to know did that spark anything that you saw going on there . Does that have any effect going on in the scene . By the way, thats only about four miles from where you are standing. Thats right. Around the scene itself, it sparked some attention, small crowd gathered, making some of the same chants, hands up, dont shoot. They shot another one of us. Right here, its had no effect so far. When it cools down and night falls, it might have some effect. But we havent seen it yet. Checking with the Missouri Department of public safety. Ferguson Police Statistics were reasoning rejected for gross errors. As i understand it 67 of people in the town are black, 97 of the cars stopped are black. Two times as many blacks get frisked as whites. Have you picked that sort of stuff up from blacks . Even prior to this, do they feel there is a racial divide in that city . Theres no question about it. We were standing out in front of target yesterday just talking to africanamericans who are not part of the protest, who were coming out, and this woman about 40 told me, i avoid ferguson. I drive around it. Those people, the whites, dont want us in their stores and we get the sense that its a divided place that we dont want any part of. They dont like us, we dont like them. Even if they are not protesting here, you get the sense that this is the place thats stuck in 1970. Theres a lot of people who have some real frustration thats been building over the years. What about facts . Have you asked any of the Police Officers or anybody within the Police Department why they arent living in ferguson . Is it because perhaps they havent been able to find qualified applicants for the police force or are they actively avoiding hiring people in ferguson . Have they said no we dont want to hire them or is it because of certain factors that prevent them from hiring them . Perhaps, education, criminal records or a lack of desire to become a Police Officer . I cant answer the specifics of that question with facts, but a couple of things have come out since this crisis began and that is that the police here in ferguson are going to push for more minority candidates for their police academy. They are also going to make sure that they have cameras on their vests, on their dash, so we see spurred on by this incident some reforms headed for the Police Department in ferguson soon. The fact is the budget of Ferguson Police department or the town have zero dollars for minority recruitment. I can assume zero . Zero, zero. Lets not make steve get in the middle of this. Hes got enough. Steve, you are going to get your last question from andrea. You are in the middle of enough conflict in ferguson. Eric holder is heading to the area tomorrow. I know the administration has been pressuring the Police Department in different ways, so over the weekend we heard a report that they pressured them, the feds not to release that surveillance tape, however they were lecturing them on transparency, any idea of whats happening behind the scenes . If the police plan on releasing more information, if they plan on indicting . What are you hearing from the department about how they are going to take next steps . I think the release of that video was a real surprise both at the county and state level and at the National Level as well and it shows the real gap in the command structure between the very top and the local force, and i imagine the local police feel real slighted by how they have been portrayed in the media so far. But the story is likely to take on more National Attention in the days ahead with this thursday day of national rage and then a funeral for Michael Brown on monday. Could get a lot of real National Attention as this story expands beyond ferguson. All right, steve, thank you so much for being with us this afternoon. Thank you. When we come back, greg on the medias role in stoking fergusons flames, will they care about the city after they jump to the next story . Thats next on the five. P÷u the media, like humanity, can only handle two sides to a story, and they almost always flock to one side and its david, never goliath, even if goliath might be right. Its a side dictated by decades of pop culture deemg whats cool and what isnt. Who needs balance when Buffalo Springfield tells you theres something happening here. There arent two sides to ferguson. There are lots. At least four. Aside from protesters and the law. Youve got insiders and outsiders those who stop by for the racket and those who arrive as tunists and are gone. Reporters find their flame in the action. Al sharpton never find a spotlight he didnt like. The pain and suffering of others is a small price to pay for his stardom. Once these outsiders leave, the only people left are those who cant. Shop owners dont happily return to their Huffington Post podcast. Some has been fair. One in particular rhymes with pnn. Qle yes. It does remind pnn and the c stands for the cops not needed network. Dr. Michael baden couldnt have been more clear. He said theres no specific series of event that this autopsy can confirm. Theres no specific act pattern, yet on the air one of the an kors said the results of this autopsy now confirm what protesters believe to be true. Reporting that as fact. That is completely untrue. Its irresponsible, leading the guest is very irresponsible and these ear buds that i emailed last night, the reporter for the Huffington Post, i think we have the full screen really wanted these ear plugs to be rubber bullets, he put out a tweet can anyone confirm are these rubber bullets . No. When they do leave, you are going to have a lot of those Business Owners left to pick up the pieces. Eric, we just heard talking about the up coming day of rage. Is that something reporters should be talking about . Coming up. Hes reporting whats going on down there. Thats what cable news is right. You got 247. You want to know exactly whats going on. This happens to be a story. Its incredible. I analyzed the ratings on these things. You can go and find out by quarter hours, 15minute chunks of time. Shows well be handling this situation in missouri will rating here. They will go off and do another the ratings wi they will go back to it later and the ratings will go back up. Theres an appetite by the consuming public. They want to see the looters shooting the window out and running in there. They want to see they are sitting from home from wherever they are and go wow, can you imagine whats going on there. The problem is that poor storm owner is going can you imagine whats going on here . Looters are making money for somebody. How is that helping the cause, the Michael Brown cause or the incarceration or arrest rate amongst africanamericans in a community. That doesnt help. Its the chicken and egg question, does the chaos incite more if the media incite more chaos . Everybody says they want this get this situation calmed down, they made a pact and walked away, and nobody was going to film it, would there be reyots . Maybe, maybe not. Everybody has their own phone. The story is going to be covered. What steve is saying maybe this is a story that needed to be exposed. If people in ferguson feel that strongly about a racial divide, maybe this is something that had to be talked about. Joy, true. Bob, another night of riots, means another night of awardwinning photography which would guarantee another night of rioting. Its like a snowball of suffering. The sad part about this these punks that come from out of town, they are there to incite riot or to steal. I would bet you when all of said and done, most of people were out of towners. All of them should be lock up quick. It is seems to me that for cnn, you know, i understand exactly what you are saying about the baden thing. He did not draw a conclusion. Yeah, you have to look at it two ways. When you say conclusions, you cant draw conclusions. There arent enough facts here. But if you are somebody who lives in ferguson where you believe that the police are racist and you see that these gunshot wounds are coming down your arm like this, they are going to assume, they are going to assume without full evidence that this kid had his hands up in the air. Now, i dont know what happened. I noef know if this kid was tackled a lot of cop. Does that mean that the guy was not charging him . Probably not. Does it mean thq people in ferguson believe it . You mean charging him. Its very confusing to all of us. What about the people like in a couple of months, it will be ferguson but worse because everybody had left and there would be shop keepers who were in debt because they had to repair all of these displays and windows. And a lot of stories about how the economy is driving this even more. How does this help the economy . How does this help the police force . I mean, if this is a region of the country that has deep seated racial divisions, i dont know how you begin to put the pieces back together after what just happened, especially after the cameras leave . Its a slow burn. It takes it will take many years. Shops will leave and people will have to travel farther in order to get services or people have to live farther out in order to work in ferguson. And theres one possible Silver Lining to this whole thing and the coverage in seeing whats going on, that the Africanamerican Community in there can vote, they can vote in the people they want, they can vote in the Town Council People and have those Town Council People hire cops that are more diverse an maybe that will solve some of the problem in the area. I would bet you most of the people going into the stores looting dont care one whit about this kid. They went down there to take advantage of the situation knowing full well they could get into a liquor store. Weve seen it happen before in riot after riot. The majority of these people want to see this kid his trial be fair and the rest of it. They dont go into Liquor Stores and rob. I bet most of you couldnt even pronounce his name. Coming up, president obama faces another racially charged story in ferguson but some africanamericans are not buying his explanation for the causes of violence. Details next. 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Part of the ongoing challenge of perfecting our union has involved dealing with communities that feel left behind, who as a consequence of tragic histories often find themselves isolated, and you have young men of color in many communities who are more likely to end up in jail or in the criminal Justice System than they are in a good job or in college. But the wall street journals jason riley took issue wlings explanation. He said black criminals should be prosecuted, which is helpful. But then he suggested it stemmed from poverty or racial criminal Justice System. Which is nonsense. The in 1960, was there less raci racism . What it means to be