In the middle east. This kid was hurded because he was an american. Theres where the discussion should take pra. Domestic terrorism is already here. Very quickly, well start with you. Theyre literally miles away from the house, first they thought it was a drug deal. But this kid is squeaky clean, he was a straight a student. Did you hear about it in your community . Because you dont live too far out of manhattan, the largest media market in the country. You think this would get more coverage than one radio host bringing it to the national spotlight. I did research in new jersey and this was not really covered. And again, new jersey doesnt have a media mark, but this killer had a history of killing three times before in washington state, this is a very, very scary premise. This is haunting because in the last couple of weeks, we have heard people from social media tell us mixed messages about what they can hit us at home and high level white house officials saying the threat is not going to hit us here at home, we just dont believe that. With the internet, the way isis is using social media to radicalize muslims in this country is very, very scary. I think the reluctance to root out this evil is based on a fear of their own making, which is islamophobia. The fbi is willfully obliging, essentially they have us by the throat with our own Political Correctness. But could i interest the why the media missed this . And i include fox news on this, we didnt talk about it i think until yesterday, and it would have been nice if we had done one less sharpton story and one more of this brendan story. So the most important thing im going to say today, why do we focus on issues like race, ray rice, trayvon, ferguson while we ignore the radical islamic threat . Because these others speak to a greater evil in which the media can indict all of us on. The media has been trained to degrade america has flawed. If youre at war with radical islam, then you cannot be at war with yourself, thats why the media shies away from this because it doesnt follow their aationations because it whats been sickening to me, is since ferguson, people who do speak out against radical islam, the media would quicker target me or somebody on the Media Network for targeting radical islam. Up until today, the Obama Administration has refused to say war when speaking about radical slaucislam. What greg is pointing out, though, why the reluctance . Why has this not been a bigger story . You mentioneds the fbi extremism from right wing groups and possible threats. Avenue the tsarnaev brothers successfully carried out their terrorist attack on the boston marathon, that story, we have forgotten about that, thes assa shooting at ft. Hood. But when you add all these things up, i really credit this radio host for bringing it up to our attention and its something we need to be very clear about. Do you disagree when you see a straight a student being murder over Islamic Jihad . That conclusion is being drawn by a radio talk show host. But there were two other people involved in that murder. He admitted it. He also killed two gay men, and hes charged with a hate crime for that as well. I fail to see why people, when you suggest that its meeting to shy away from. This man was an islamic terrorist who was out there to kill americans. The fbi or somebody else would have said something about it. You i dont get, what did you say . What im saying is that you had three people in the car who killed this guy. This guy, this is the main murder. The other two guys did not claim they had anything to do with islamic terrorism. And then he killed gay guys before. This guy sounds like more of a that sounds like thats the problem, thats the threat, thats the fact that they had that young woman from colorado who was signing up for the idea to go to syria to fight with isis. Its that desire, as greg would say, to be cool, which is not cool when it drags you into evil. And its quite possible that the other two werent quite radical islamists yet. How would you classify this as a hate crime . Hes an radical realist, hes killing an innocent teenager because of jihad. Why cant you take evil at their word. When evil tells you theyre evil i think hes evil, but to suggest that this was a planned home celled guy terrorist group. He was he was investigated by the fbi. The fbi let this guy go. And this is the danger of radical islam because you dont have to be part of the cell that you were just talking about to conduct acts of jihad. And the problem with calling it a hate trial is that then you treat it as a Law Enforcement issue, like somebodys robbing a bank. I think youre diminishing the threats of jihad which is based on a religious purpose. Which is hate, but its very different. I do not think you can equate the two. Also because hes trying to make an excuse for himself. So now hes busted by the cops, so he will hope that islamophobia will protect him in the prosecution. When you use that word, i get money, because i came up with it. So lets talk about this a little bit. Bill maher had some comments that may surprise you. Heres what he had too say, this may surprise you, watch. Its loading, they tell me. No, he said theyre loaded. It is friday. White shot. Well, anyway what bill maher said. Lets pretend he said something. Shall i read it . Here we go. There is a connecting tissue behind every muslim is the future of some radical let me finish. I thought i was doing that. There are ill liberal beliefs that are held by vast numbers of people. A number of christians too. Thats not true. Not true. Vast numbers of christians do not believe that if you leave the christian religion, you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of christians do not treat women as secondclass citizens. Vast numbers of christians do not believe if you draw a picture of jesus christ you should get killed for it. Bill maher has always been pretty vocal about this. Atheists have been pretty strong on radical islam because they read up on religion and they hate religion. And radical islam provides them with so much evidence for hating them that he you know, hes right about the distinction and rose is not. And a surprising defense of christianity. Its also obvious. I take second to none as attacking the muslims. I have been doing this for months and months and months now. I dont want to make sure you say radical orb else. Its also fair to say i have received a lot more threats about this. We have all kept silent, for Political Correctness or whatever. No other religions i know of punisheds people by killing them thachlt are a religion that at least gives a basis for somebody if they want to hate to hate. Some religions have been there before, but on this bell curve, this evolution, we were there once and we got out of it. And we keep thinking maybe they can domesticate this part of their religion. We keep hoping. Can they . I dont think so. I think this has been going on a little too long. Bill maher has been very outspoken about islam. It was bill maher who came out and said islam is the problem. But he said all religions, because he is an atheist, are a problem, but he said he went on to outline the problems with islam. Its a very different message than we see coming from the administration, which you hear is a shared history of tolerance between islam and christianity, trying to compare the two. What maher is right on target. As greg said, we spent how many weeks talking about ferguson . Which was a tragedy. But how many weeks and hours did we obsess on cable news over that thing and you didnt even hear about the story about the boy in new jersey. Dana, your thoughts . I dont have too much to add to that, except for listening to bill maher, i think it reminded me of three basic tennants that i fry to think about in terms of christianity, which is forgiveness, grace and being nonjudgmental. Those are three things that inform and drive christians for the most part. And in the muslim world, i do think there are some places where it is working fairly well. Im not saying that theres not abuses in places like indonesia or the uae. But there certainly have been advances in some societies that are actually doing fairly well. One of the huge problems, eric, is on the economy. Which is just in terms of countries that file patents for new innovations and exciting things, almost nothing out of the muslim world. And the problem of them being behind on the economic front has fueled haa lot of the hate and e hopelessness that leads to terrorism. Theyre more fueled and turned down by the jihad than they are about inventing new products. 1. 3 billion muslim in the world, and about 10 of them are radical, which is a very low number. 10 of that which is a low number that would probably kill for jihad. Youre talking about 13 million radicals that would kill. The koran is a book that can be interpreted many different ways by many different people. There are those radicals that interpret what mohammad was supposed to have said that is so radical and so far out of the main stream that most muslims think. But the koran will give them some verification of what they do if you read it the way they read it. You said less judgment, that could almost be translated to swung who is a muslim as being less religious, that the whole point of religion is to judge. Achbltd they are christians dont judge each other, you leave the judgment up to the lord. They are judging you. They are judging you. But religion at its purist is about judgment and they look at you as an infidel to your own religion because you are if youre not judgmental, youre not religious. So in a way, the safer you are, is the furrther you get away frm your own may i just push back a little bit on that . The islam religion, they are by definition judgmental . However christianity will tell you. There are these commandments. Christianity will tell you to forgive, judge and then forgive. Next, more mixed signals from the administration on whether or not we are at war with isis, well try to make sense of all that and later, its facebook friday, yay. Send us your questions at facebook. Com thefivefnc, well facebook. 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If somebody wants to think about it as being a war with isil, they can do that, but the fact is, its a major Counter Terrorism campaign. A major Counter Terrorism campaign. War on terrorism, is that something thats out of the lexon now of the u. S. Governments comments on whats happening . Certainly not how i would refer to our efforts. But if you ask the white house or the pentagon, its this. Make no mistake we know we are at war with isil in the same way we continue to be at war with al qaeda and its affiliates. America is at war with isil in the same way that we are at war with al qaeda and al qaeda affiliates all the way around the war. Are we at war or are we not at war . And dandana, im going to go tou on this. A couple of weeks ago, he said that the administration was being deliberately confusing and sending out mixed messages on the threat of isis and whether or not were at war and whether or not they are a threat to us here at home. You think theres a deliberate effort to confuse . So they can say well, we said it here, but we didnt say it here . I guess if it were the white house, i would try not to make it look so deliberate. I would zoo this tonight at the white house. I would say forget your friday night plans. Everybody in my office at 6 00 and were going to have the same language. But that language has to come from the top. So the global war on terror, that language, it was strong, it was definitive and it was very clear. Okay, we know what were doing, we are at war, a global war on terror, this is a long war, were not just going to do pin prick strikes against isil. It is clear to me that the speech that the president gave on wednesday night was definitely at least a week too early, it needed to bake in the oven for another temperatusevero they request get everybody on the same page. What the president did on wednesday was to try to stop the slide in the polls. I want to follow, i want to support, but youve got to give me something to hold on to it. Cannot be it actually has to be something that i can look at, understand and believe. I dont know what to believe, although i would tend to believe that the white house now settling on war, is that we should say, that thats what were doing. President obama said we are not at war with islam, he said there was no war on terror. To danas point, the commander in chief has sent mixed messages, so maybe thats why the administration cant get its story straight. If i was president obama i would employ a golf term and let others play through. This guy has created more vacuums than hoover, which is why were in trouble now. This administration is more obsessed with words unanimous actions and thats because theyre the product of a media academic complex. Words always matter, symbolism always matter. Its not the action, talking heads and government hacks always say that theyre war weary, but its the troops that say we signed on for this and the militarys actually okay if they dont get it. Did it everybody occur to them that the troops see this enemy, they actually see it and theyre ready for it. And theyre okay if president obama doesnt get it, theyre okay. The next question is can we degrade and destroy isis without boots on the ground. Our pentagon producer justin do military commanders belie without sending u. S. Combat troops to the field . The short answer to your question is yes. We have been conducting air strikes now for a number of weeks. They have helped provide some space and support to Iraqi Security forces on the ground. We have been able to do these very effective and we know were having a tactical effect on isil and we have been able to do that without quote, unquote, combat boots on the ground. But some people arent so sure, including former cia covert officer mike baker. Air strikes alone are not going to cut it. Somebodys got to get boots on the ground, apparently nobody is willing to do that. It appears that we have underestimated isis again. They estimate 12,000 to 15,000. The question is, with president obamas plan, can he decimate isis quicker than theyre recruiting . Can we do that . I hope so. Im hoping that he, like i have said here 6 instead of 130 air strikes over 30 days, we should do 130 a day before we commit american boots on the ground. I would love to see saudi boots on the ground, i would like to see turkish boots on the ground, the kurds and persshmerga. Im not sure well ever my point is, push them back into syria. Get too a point. Theyre not getting completely eradicate dated. But the other question about the war versus Counter Terrorism. To borrow an old phrase, what difference does it make . We would be doing nothing different militarily if we called it a war. There is a difference. We have a disagreement. I know we borrowed this from the last administration. You think that president would even somewhere given an address if there had not been two beheadings of american journalists. Probably not. Whats going on today, what wars are going out are no different than whatever you want to call it. Can we drive them back . I think yes, we can drive them back, we have a precedence for this, we have the balkans. Look, we have to be honest about whats been happening on the left in the last couple of days. This increased alarm that oh, my gosh, the president of the united states, we believed was taking us out of war is actually taking us back into war. I also would just advice the white house and the administration, they have got to stop trying to win the news cycle. They need to think a little bit further ahead. So thats why they need to hire a paranoid right winger to sit in a basement of the west wing and to read these speeches, to look over the talking points. Im available. Just to let them know, this is the trap you are setting for yourself if you are not solid on what difference it makes between war and Counter Terrorism. Because its like watching saturday night live when you watch them talk, they cant make sense of what theyre saying. Do you think its going to change anything theyre doing . Its sad, pathetic and it embarrasses me. What do you say to the military, our young people are there, what do you think they would rooter hear, that were at war with the people that are shooting back at them . I if youre not islamic and youre not a obamas like a tourist that unfolded a map in the rain and cant get it back. Coming up on the five several women sporting ray rices jersey with the number 27 rices jersey with the number 27 last check out all these airline seats. Lots of them, right . 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