Obliged to pay their taxes or play by the rules and politicians use the situation to scare people. Thats the real amnesty, just talking, leaving the broken system the way it is. Conservatives arent happy with the president young laterally changing american law. Possibly more than he expected. This is 5 Million People being given amnesty that congress rejected that the American People have rejected that will pull down the wages of working americans, will make jobs harder for them to find, will create a testimony in the future that will invite more people to come unlawfully. Trust. Interesting concept. Trust. Can president obama earn the trust of the now Republican Senate and the house. Speaker john boehner says that all may be lost, watch. With this action, the president has chose to deliberately sabotage any act of by partisan reforms that he seeks. And as i told him yesterday, hes damaging the he created an environment where the members would not trust him. So working together is virtually impossible. Do we want them working together, will that help and will the republicans ever trust president obama again . We dont we need them to do something in washington. I mean first of all, National Security being the most important thing. And this being possibly in some ways a National Security issue. Yes, theyre going to have to Work Together in some way. I would not like to be White House Office of legislative affairs. Just two weeks ago, the day after the Midterm Election when president obama lost so many seats. He said the lesson i have learned is that people want us to Work Together more in washington. And then ten days later he pulls this move. And we find out in a political article that hes been planning to do this for nine months. So it was in the works behind the scenes. So some republicans are in a little bit of a bind. You said that the president might be getting more push back than expected. What they really wanted is a whole lot of republicans coming out and screaming impeachment. Well see if that changes over time. But i think right now its sort of a measured response, trying to figure out, is it legal, what he did . I think that the court could weigh in, but that could be a long time from now. In the meantime, across the board, scholars that look at the constitution stay that this is crossing a rubicund, meaning you have crossed a line that you can never go back to. Can they rebuild trust . I think it will be very difficult. Greg, during that speech in las vegas, someone a heckler was yelling out and president obamas response was, hey, its the first step, but not the only step. We have a lot more coming. I dont know, i do have a question for captain compassionate. Whats the difference between families that are crossing our borders and families dying in syria . Its a bigotry of distance. What is the difference . Why are these families more important than the others . Its because theyre a voting bloc. Were not supposed to get involved in places like syria where people are dying, but we have to do everything we can as a compassionate nation to deal with people who are crossing borders illegally because theyre close. But i want to address something i dont understand about this act. So the act is going to get the good Illegal Immigrants out of the shadows and its going to get the bad deported. But if the criminals arent part of the process, then they will not come out of the shadows. So he never really separates the good from the bad, he picks the good and the bad stay in the shadows. If you are a bad illegal, this has no affect on you. You stay, you hide, you do whatever you want. All this really did was just granted amnesty to people other than the people we wanted to. So the numbers are even larger than hes saying because youre taking the good in with the bad. 36,000 criminal illegals that were released to the streets of america, literally hundreds if not thousands of those people had Violent Crimes like murder, rape, aggravated assault. They released them on to the streets of america. And now you release even more . They have no incentive to report or turn themselves in or try to start the process because they have a criminal record, they are recidivists, they are more likely to offend, whether they have submittcommitted assa crimes, murders and rapes. In fact the damage that hes done to Public Confidence because he didnt listen. He had this planned eight or nine months ago, no matter what the outcome he was going to get it done because he cares more about his friends and advancing his political ideology. 5 Million People are not bad. In one sentence, you said ere criminals and now you said theres 5 million more. Take that back, thats absolutely wrong. I didnt say there were 5 million more. Listen to it. I said they let 36,000 criminal illegals go last year and now there are what million more that are on the books in the system now. And if they couldnt do it in 2013, theyre going to able to do it in 2014, or 2015. You have to clarify, what you said sounded exactly what bob heard, it did. So you just have to clarify. I said 36,000 criminal illegals were release in the 2013. Thats documented. I said there will be 5 million more on the books that they can track, and youre going to tell me theres going to be no more crime in the 5 million more. You said there were going to be 5 million more criminals. When you at more people to the roles, to the work roles, you add more available labor, what happens to wages. I think we are going to take a hit in wages. Wages go downing. Lets talk about the middle class, when wages go downing at the bomb, dont wages go down in the middle can i just give you a couple of facts, if you want to talk about facts here. Peter heart who was the pollster with the wall street journal, that showed it gave the president access to the people that they called they favored him bypassing congress 5141. Do you know who didnt, were the tea party republicans, even republicans support the president on this proposal. Only by two points, but the Tea Party People a the he himself was saying he didnt have the power to do this not to long ago. With respect to the notion that i can just suspend deportations through executive order, thats just not the case, because there are laws on the books, that congress has passed. Well, thats a smoking gun and democrats know it. Heres former Obama Press Secretary jay carney incapable of produviding cover for the president. I think if he could have those words back, specifically the part where he talked about suspending deportlaationdeportas literally what hes doing today. What he said in 2011 was exactly wrong. I mean, what he did here today was do what he said he couldnt do. And i agree with that. And i agree with carney, he suddenly but the fact still remains that legally hes on firm ground. Where, ill say it again. Theres nowhere in the kojs where it allows him to yuan lets take a look and see what the courts do. They have had 11 president s in a row that have made these decisions. He can make the decision to emphasize who hes going to deport and who hes not going to depart. How does anybody know how long someones been here . You know, theyre giving a time frame and its like if youre here illegally, then you can say whenever you are hirere, how ca they stay they didnt just get here last month. They have to bring forward things to prove that they have been here five years or more. And if you have children, how could anybody with a conscience send their parents home. I have heard you talking about denying visas to Chinese Students come ing over here. Time im trying to find out where the compassion begins and ends. Where he says it does. I said i wanted muslims who had student visas, there were 15,000 that did not show up. I never said that you should not allow educational visas who chinese who come heres. Were educating them and theyre going back. I didnt mean to mischaracterize what you said. You want to move on to 2016 in immigration is shaping up to be a big issue for the 2016 election. Hillary clinton weighed it into is event. Thanks to potus for taking action on immigration in the face of inaction, now lets turn to permanent bipartisan reform immigration action. Got you madam secretary, youre on board with the obama amnesty. Shes on board with those who will be seeking the democratic nomination, this makes sense for her, and its part of the ele electi election. Well, i do think that the fact that she even did such a lengthy statement shows that she actually is running and she should be treated like a candidate and have to answer to whether or not she thinks this is the right process. She said like president obama did that he did not have the right to do this. For those who care about the process, how we actually used to do such action in the past, that will be important to them. It will be an issue, but i dont think its necessarily going to be on process. It has to be on substance. And thats the problem i have with the debate so far. The process point is an easier one to make. The substantive point of how would you fix it is a but thats where the rub really is. And the opportunity. Bush of the things that should be clear here is that nobody but nobody whos granted this will be allowed to vote in the 2016 election. So that is a mute issue. And hopefully tot the 2020 or beyond. Im not suggesting that this is not if these people were all voting republican as a general rule, would they be so easy to let them in . Probably not. But i do think that you have to be careful when you say that the only way you do this the only way to handle this is the republicans now with the votes they have in the house and senate, ought to be able to pass an Immigration Reform bill and obama ought to be able to sign it. Goldberg made an interesting observation last night. He said if this action isnt out of the ordinary, why are the fans acting as if its a heroic miracle. The other thing too is about the semantics, america has a hard time trusting the president when the language keeps changing consider the immigrations. We are screwing with the language so that the logic allows for a redefinition of abuses, so that almost anything can mean anything, rioting. Such as the Affordable Care act, really being about bringing about the issue of health care. This is the point. Eric . Can you change the the penalties for murder in america, if you dont agree with them . What aes the difference. Youre making a great point, because it is, its establishing a precedent here, once you take this step, and it will go up to the courts and well make the determination, this is again forever going to be a precedent and maybe its a guy in office that you dont like that can do this exact thing. The point is we have to honor the constitution and the laws and the Legal Process and find a way to do this correctly, not just one man. One quick thought . Unlike these other catories, there are anywhere from 11. 5 million to 15 million illegals in this country and you cant send them all home. Do you believe its feasible to deport 12 Million People who are here illegally . But there are other answers. What are they . There are other answers. Achbtds thnd thats the prob what about following the law thats there, file the applications, forward the paper work and it might take you longer, but there are laws that are in place, and first of all its so much of an attractive nuisan nuisance, we have people coming in not just from mexico but from honduras as well. And its wide open. Because its illegal to file an application if youre here illegally to begin with. Make a modification within the existing laws. What can republicans do to st republicans say theyre ready to do whatever it takes to stop president obama from implementing his executive action on immigration and they could be falling right into his trap, according to president bushs former speechwriter. Hes not trying to help Illegal Immigrants, hes trying to provoke a fight with the republican party. He wants hem to shut down the government, he wants somebody to go out there and offer articles of impeachment because he wants to rally his base and he wants to make the gop blow itself up. And he might have help that republicans might lose their cool today, but this is the response he has gotten so far. Today the peoples house will rise to this challenge, we will not stand idol as the president undermines the rule of law and places the cows at risk. Huge pressure after a lot of pressure under new members to do something. What could they do . What do you think is possible . Well, first thing they should not do is try to impeach him. Thats what frankly i would like if they tried to do that. Achktd the next thing they should not do, is shut down the government. I think the answer to this is some way to vote as you were pointing out in the break, a center vote, and say you dont like it, and the second thing i would like to go is immediately go to work at crafting an immigration bill and face the reality of all these millions of people here, and give them a route, pay penalties and taxes and weed out anybody whos broken the law, and on top of that border security. If they did that, i think it would be very difficult for both democrats in the house and senate or the president to veto the bill. That opens up the possibility of the idea that you had for dealing with this issue, now that the republican have kind of a blank slate, maybe you can just reiterate that. I dont think that anybody would legitimately talk about impeachment. Right now again, we allow 1 million Illegal Immigrants into the country, triple that, make it three million. Let those people get in line, let them process through, thats a legal way to get people on the books and it doesnt put them anyone at a disadvantage to anyone else. Thats the way you do it, thats the smart way to do it. How do you deal with the question of not being able to do that application process if youre here illegally to begin with . Im just asking you a question, the law you could suspend that, i suppose. A modification to that and then it becomes the process and its fair then. No ones being physically deported right now anyway. Im trying to figure out what a legislative remedy would be and how you get by that one problem. I dont think you can have a suspension for the people that are here now. You can do that in the way that youre supposed to, which is respecting the system of checks and balances and putting something forward in the legislature that they can craft and agree 307b, versus the unilaterally action by the president , which is ill advised and not completely thought out which is just having the effect of creating more stubborn positions on both sides, total bipartisan gridlock which isnt helping anybody, and this is a tremendous advantage for the republicans and boehner hit the right tone. Let me get greg in here, bob, i want to ask you two questions about, its a two part question. One question, two parts. The fairness question. Which is what about the people who did it legally, we both are married to people who had to do that after we got married. Its the same person, obviously. Interesting how that worked out. But also people were the standing interpreters who helped us during the war, their lives were at risk, but now theyre backed up, those people in iraq and afghanistan who would like to come and live in america and deserve to be. Thats why its important to have a new bill, because youve got to say, the people who play by the rules get first dibs. Its a great way, it rewards the people who did the right thing, the legal immigrants and it would be good to get as part of this program, an american understanding, a mandatory free class that is a combination and appreciation of our history, the language, the ethics, the opportunity, the gat tud for people in this country which i believe is missing because we have turned patriotism into an act of mockery. T the gop should act and not react. They should be thin 2016, but here is the big challenge. The people who are coming here are coming from places that are worst than the united states. So being a democrat or a republican, you cant talk about wage controls or how bad they are, our private Advertising Health care, theyre happy to be here, so thats going to be the challenge for republicans, create a program that appreciate what is make this is country great. I was saying among the latino voters, 49 cite their number one concern is the economy, versus 16 being immigration. That is an opportunity for the gop. The groups are already unhappy. As with the Affordable Care act, obama care, where, bob, people like you said, he didnt go far enough, they wanted single payer, already those groups are not satisfied with what president obama one other thing about the politics of this is that the president has to do something. For a long debate on this, the republicans are hurt even more by the hispanics if they take a tone i think boehner set the right tone. But there are others who have not set the right tone. Have you heard any republicans say were not going to do thinking . 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