Attacked the cop. Youre just going to site with whitey because your Justice System is rigged in this racist society. But you say that about everything, what if it were a black cop. Whose fault is that . The police or a why not become a cop and change things . Well, why would we want to be part of a corrupt system thats stacked against blacks. Thats a circular argument, you dont want to change the system because the system is corrupt. Not wait a minuting to be a cop is your cop out. Anyway, can we agree on one thing . Sure. That darlene is a big moron . In time magazine, she defends rio rioting. Her office was never in danger of being torched by those she defends. Youre right, she is a moromoro. At least we can agree on one thing. Thanks, darlena, year stupidity is so fast, it could unite all of america. What do you make of somebody i feel like, if she had owned, this woman had owned a beauty shop, she might have felt differently about the joyousness of rioting. And by the way, they got all the beauty shops, so in more weaves in ferguson. What youve got down there is businesses that are destroyed. Unemployment in ferguson just went up, 5 in 2007, localized by 200 . Thats the tragedy of these rioters, most of them from ferguson and surrounding areas, that is time they were mostly from outside, they were outside agitators, yes, they were there, but 60something arrests, mostly from that area. Theyre sfrdestroying their own neighborhood and that is one of the stupidiest things that i hae ever seen, by when i stood there and watched, everything happening behind me, and they started tearing into stores, just because their windows werent boarded up. Literally just walked around me, at that point they were intent on the store windows, a rim from autozone, youre not going to be able to sell that to someone who can get into an auto store. These are all criminals and they should be taken down and taken down hard. Peaceful protesting is a luxury, for people who dont have a voice, they have to riot. If i hadnt done so much history on the civil rights movement, i wouldnt laugh, gregory, but that is ridiculous, that is a stupid piece, i read it in all seriousness. The Boston Tea Party was a riot. Oh, gee whiz, so let me get this straight, so when you go and stray the governments property, belonging to the king of a distant place who was trying to control you and say, this is an 5k9 of rewholon. Thats the equivalent of burning your own neighborhood . How stupid is that . And im not one to use that kind of language. I want to see the other 20,000 residents of ferguson, tell these criminals, a lot of them are your neighbors, your sons, your daughters, they know whos breaking into these stores. A lot of people from ferguson, dont want these riots, white, black, africanamericans, come up to us and say these are our businesses, we see them bussing in these professional protesters, the unions are bussing in people, they dont want any of it because theyre too intimidated to stand up to the rioters because theyre afraid. A 90yearold black woman, she and her son were walking out to the car, she didnt want to talk and thin she looked and said you know what . You want to come bleak things in your neighborhood, i should be able to follow you home and break yours. The people in the neighborhood, they wont put up with this anymore. The businesses in the neighborhood, they want all the people gone, a lot of them. They complain about the community, theyre unfairly treated, but theyre the ones that are tearing up the community, one store at a time, ble breaking windows, terrorizing, ferguson is going to be remembered this way by people who have no interest in being part of the solution. What strikes me, the argument at this time is oh, its bourgeois to actually engage the political process. If you look back another the civil rights movement, when segregation was the law, and it was theyre fighting much greater odds than in ferguson, and what did they do . They engaged the process, they appealed to peoples humanity, to our common christianity, they appealed to the idea that we all are patriots and we believe in the Founding Fathers creed in us all being equal. But these people dont want to engage the american process, which is being held together as the american people, but they want to destroy their own community. They dont even understand some of the simple arguments here, the Michael Brown law that they started to float out there, cameras on all the police. I stood out there and heard dozens of people not wanting to be filmed by the place while they were protesting. I think its im talking about citizens, were going to come out here and protest, but dont film us. When i was watching this on youstream, they would be taunting the police, so they could film the police doing something. But they dont want to get filmed. Juan hits the nail on the head, civil rights wasnt won because of protests, it was won because they engaged the system and they changed the laws. People who want to jump in front of a tv camera, these people are hustlers, theyre in for the money. But if you want to change the system, its a longterm issue. Why dont you ask al sharpton who comes out there at 11 00 a. M. , and stands in front of the church. Nobody says okay, al, what law are you going to come back here, when the riots, when the protests are over and what are you going to do find the solution . Thats the problem with you people, youre too educated. But let me say, why cant you stay to that man, to sharpton, where are you to stop the riots from starting, if youre a great leader, why dont you do that. Hes not interested in that. He goes down there and he gives the flowery speech, but he never talk about how much of the black community understands that . Do they get that . That hes a race hus cltler and hes only they sacry al sharpton is a voice for the black community. Al ran for president one time. How did he do. Al ran for mayor here, how did that go . David, its my turn. I want to talk about, whenever we get into these kinds of debates, a Counter Point is always black on black crime. It circulates as a rejoinder to when a Police Officer shoots a black individual, that somebody says, well whats worse is black on black crime. This police chief ed flynn went off after a commission meeting, they asked why he had checked his cell phone during a committee meeting. What is your response to some people that thought you were being disrespectful by being on your phone and not being attentive. Well i was on my phone, yes thats true, i was following a little girl who was shot in the head while sitting on her dads lap why a drive by shooting. Soft people the greatest racial dpis party of the city in milwaukee is getting shot and killed. Hello, 80 of may homicide victims every year, are africanamerican, 80 of my assault victims are africanamerican. 80 of our shooting victims who survive their shooting are africanamerican. They know all about to the last three people who have been killed by the Milwaukee Police department over the course of the last several years. Fr theres not one of them that can name is last three homicide skrikts we have had in this city. Theres room for everybody in fixing this police department. And im not pretending were without sin, but this community is at risks all right, its not because men and women in blue risk their lives protecting it, its that there are handguns in the arms of remorseless criminals who dont care what they shoot. Know im leaving here to go to that scene and i take it personally. Were going up there and theres a bunch of cops processing the scene of a dead kid, and the only ones that are going to be stopping that process, theyre the ones that are going to be risking their lives frying to clean this up. Were the first to react when things happen, we have arrested cops, we have fired cops, but people out here, who have the most to say are actually mia when they face the true nets facing the community. When youre contribute sized for reading about a kid who got shot, yes, im a little defensive. Thats whats going on. The reality, i live in a black neighborhood, thats the reality, that hes talking about. Uhhuh. Yeah. I dont think he minced words, andrea. And Rudy Giuliani is taking a lot of heat for answering a question about cops go where theres high crime and if you start to impede cop from doing their jobs, biff eric holder came out and said on a federal level were going to do something to try and restore faith in cops. If they start to do at the doj what i think theyre going to do, nen u youre stopping cops from going into those high crime years and actually keeping kids safe. If you dont believe me, look at the washington post, in victims and offers, blacks are disproportionately offended. When rudy was well on point, and hiss point was, look, Michael Brown was hurting the quality of life, because he was in the middle of the street, he was impeding the police from doing their jobs, he progressives do not want cops to be able to ask people questions, they would rather have you if you see somebody doing something damps, just go away and keep cops from doing their jobs. I think police belong in the community, protecting people of any color that deserve p protection. The High Percentage of Violent Crimes committed by blacks, are most often committed by black people. But if you look at cops, the whole argument about stop and risk, about driving while youre black, about racial profiling, theres a fear offense being stereotyped, that david and i would be walking down the street and saying, there ees black gu theyre not doing anything wrong, but were going to stop them. Crime is commune kl, and kimberly you know this as a prosecutor, so in a majority wide area, whether its a poor area or sub economic level, youre going to get crime white on white, black on black, it is communal. So if you dont deal with the issue from that point of view as a crime, you never get to the real issue of this argument. Its not one to one white on white versus black on black. But the thing is, skrg worked as a prosecute never los angeles and really impoverished neighborhoods and communities were struggling because of gang violence, i cannot tell you how appreciative that those people in the communities are that theres police there at night that keep the streets state of for their children to go to school in the morning. Thats where you need to get the community policing, have people come together and invest in the community and work in a partnership with the police department. I have seen it done very well, throughout the state of california for sure, throughout new york. These are models that can be adopted. Law abiding people, they dont mind if the police are there making sure that theyre safe, that businesses can open, that the economy can flourish in these neighborhoods, that there are jobs to be had. That is part of partnership of building here. And when you have people who are so fill with the rage and vitri vitriol, they dont want to hear anything about the solution and theyll use a situation like this and the death of a young man, regardless of the facts, theyre deaf to it just because they want to push their cause or get money for their organization, like al sharpton, shame on him, because he shouldnt sleep at night for what he is responsible for in ferguson. But i just want to say, first of all, i thought what you said was just beautiful. I couldnt glee more. I will say im disappointed in the ferguson police, because they didnt build that trust relationship and after the shooting, they made things worse by leaving the body in the street, by not speaking to people about what happened, not making it clear as officer wilson has in his interview. Now we have learned from it. They shouldnt leave the body in the street. Youre right on that one. They could have said something right at the top, but they didnt. They could have informed the people, but there was an investigation. They could have processed the scene, took the photographs so there would be no question. But until a team comes out to photograph the scene, you cant do that. Coming up, Darren Wilson have any choice about hiss actions . He didnt do what he had to do, he did what he wanted to do. More reaction from browns parents, the first tv interview of the man who killed their son next. So im the one living and ive listened to the tips, the trends and haveyoutriedthis. Now, im ready for someone to listen to me. Welcome to fit2me. Com, your free customfit, Diabetes Support Program that actually listens to you. Start building your fit2me program today using key areas of diabetes management. Lets start with food. Mexican . Asian . Italian want recipes that reduce calories . Or carbs . Which activity feels more like you . Cardio . Or couch curls . Choose a digital coach. Tough love . Or a gentle nudge . 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He didnt have to do what he had to do. He did what he wanted to do, he wanted to kill someone. The problem is, despite the exhaustive evidence that was presented that didnt need to be presented to gave essentially a full homicide trial, in front of this grand jury, he even testified and grand jury subjects never testify because its crazy to do so because you can get handed serious charges, you want to have your right to go to trial et cetera, but he was there to tell the truth to try and be transparent and if you look at all the witnesses, its not consistent to what the barnts are saying. Theyre just blind to the facts. I feel for the parents, i dont feel for Michael Brown, he was a thug who committed a robbery and he is guilty of helping incite a lot of this. Eight to ten feet at 63 is three steps. How fast when someones rushing you are three steps when youre in that moment . Think about it, anybody who ever played football or any sport. Look at it for what it is. And the statements corroborated, steve, witness number ten said he couldnt believe how quickly Michael Brown was charging towards the officer. When you look at these trance kri79s and you see this inspection, its not a racist grand jury, they did their job. Can i just get rid of something here . When you get into a fight with a cop, physical confrontation, it doesnt matter if youre black, white, blackblack, whiteblack. Asianblack. It doesnt matter what the respon response, no matter what the response is. None of this is going to convince anyone, this is a postscript of the actions of the weak. This story was about a conflict that we knew was going to happen, we noaa knew there was going to be an exploitation of explosivesness, a riotriot. If you believe wilson is innocent, thats not going to change your mind. If you believe hes guilty, thats not going to change your mind. I disagree with you because i think, one, i think an officers responsibility is to diffuse the situation, he could have called for backup. He could have stayed in his car and driven away. Theres conflicting testimony in the grand jury about this, this was an injured person, i dont know what theyre going to do to you at this point. Thats six shots, and then the final point i would make to you, kimberly is this, i think there is a responsibility here in terms of giving the police leeway to do their job. Im all for it. I think thats why, you know, the thin blue line concept exists, we all rely on the police to protect us. But at some point there has to be transparency in that grand jury process. Theres the question of transparency, why is it, when as you say, most grand jurys indict anything including a ham sand witch, why in this case do we not have any opportunity to crossexamination the officer. Thats not the way the grand jury works, but i tell you what, every single panel member of that grand jury is allowed to question and crossexamination the officer. Not some fancy lawyer, but people in the community asking the questions and he had to answer them. Youre allowed to submit those questions. But theres no attorney representing the victim. And thats what happens in court. What do you think would happen at a trial . That is why is prosecutor handed it over to a grand jury. He handed it over to protect himself. So he was chnt responsible. Michael browns mother makes it sound like cops want to go out and shoot anyone. Wilsons career is over, thats not something cops want to do, because they know their lives can be ruined over it. When it goes to the grand jury, they get all of the evidence. There are people who are saying, wait a minute, they put too much evidence out, its so much harde a trial. What would have happened if they brought Dorian Johnson on the stand, and what if they didnt find him guilty until a few years later. Is that just pushing off all these riots . Its a harder burden after the grand jury. I somewhere to agree with juan on this, because, this wasnt supposed to be a mock trial. You have a very low bar to decide whether youre going to indict or not. Youre not supposed to have a trial behind closed doors. Why are you hiding the truth . People dont understand because theyre not attorneys. If you put evidence before a grand jury, this is the best way to decide if theres any shred of evidence, put it forward and let them decide. They had five option, five charges, they heard from the state medical examiner, they heard everything. People have to correct the record, because people dont know about a grand jury. I was always under the impression that a grand jury has a low bar, you dont have to introduce all the information, you dont have the defendant show up. That is for a trial. And then the trial in a way is for the public to decide. And thats not going to happen. Its probable cause the grand jury will lay it out to the prosecutor. If this was fbt a legally justified shooting, this