View in manchester last night. But so was the best. As people took perfect strangers into their houses and queued up for blood banks. Manchester has an undefeatable spirit, i assure you. Greg he is right. Islamists see fun and evil. Maybe because it is missing in their ghoulish, cowardly wise. Pop singer morrissey from the smiths went even further when the manchester mayor called the attacker an extremist, morrissey asked, and extreme what . An extreme rabbit . This is the same mayor that said the terrorist was a radical and not a muslim. To avoid the biggest stigma, the mayor avoid the truth, which is a pattern. Bbc news claims the calls were called to a terror hot went about the bombers years before he struck. Why no action . Could it be again, the fear of seeming bigoted . At least some entertainers are starting to reject this. Maybe they realize hugs will big priest but a willingness to fight does. If you want to know how pop music actually flourished . Of the beatles were able to sing all you need is love cracks you can thank veterans who dispatched heinous enemies in some really ugly wars. Giving Pop Music Center stage and long enemies of peace. Can music survive under a caliphate . I doubt it. Isis has no use for coldplay. The pulse nightclub, all young people, all music fans, all targets. Maybe its time we speak less of love and more about evil. Maybe its time for all you need is guts. Jesse, what do you make of bono . He is always a clear eyed thinker. I think he kind of explained it fairly succinctly. Jesse i think it was a very courageous thing for bono to say. After 9 11, there is a lot of unity. You had people like bruce springsteen, liberal guy doing free concerts for a lot of these things. George clooney. With program raising a lot off money. Even hillary was at ground zero. Every bush. Il everybody was together. Everybody came together after 9 11 and wanted to go after afghanistan. There was a lot of bipartisan support. That dissipated. But when pop stars, especiallyar liberal pop stars, can speak the truth about evil, it galvanizes people that are apolitical youn americans, liberal americans, to say you know what . Its okay to say radical islam. Its okay to describe the heinous acts these people are committing. It gives them license. When you are able to do that and you are clear eyed and united, it enables the country to come together and actually defeat evil instead of placating it like we have been doing. Greg kimberly, entertainers i think should step up. It seems to me recently with these examples, they are targeting their fans because i think the belief is you cant be a fan of their god if you are a fan of a pop star. Its almost like some kind of sacrilege. Because you go to an Ariana Grande concert and not a mosque. Should more pop star to be speaking up . Kimberly yes, i think its courageous. Bono is exactly right. They hate our whole way of life. They hate everything about western civilization. They cant stand the freedom that we have in this country. As women, how horrific the target specifically young girls, women, and their parents that are going to a concert like this. This was no accident. Ir this was specific. Ar if you see under sharia law, nothing but disdain for women, children. Young girls being sold into slavery by isis. Being tortured and raped. You dont even hear about somein of these things in the media because they dont want to talk about it on the news. This is the reality of the situation. You have to be able face it and deal with it. And to be able to target them. T by that, yes, social media and pop stars and education. You have to be able to put out your own propaganda to match theirs. Because otherwise, you have people that will be attracted to this. People like evil losers. People that are looking for somewhere to go, some relevancy in their lives. And they are sitting there, waiting period for jihad to soak into them so they can commit some act that they think is significant, that their life has some matter some importance. Greg dana, most entertainers go the safe route. Lets go for love, live in harmony, that stuff. Shouldnt they just stop that and say love is not enough . Its time to act . Dana musicians used to be radical. That was one of the things sessions push the envelope, especially on cultural things. One of the big stories especially out of the civilth Rights Movement was really that musicians were actually helpful, with bringing people together. They were pushing the envelope and making people question. Ci in western civilization, we send our children to concerts. Abedis father sent him to die. To kill other people. When you are dealing with that type of ideology, im not sure how you fix it. I dont think it was on the air but we were talking about the toby keith concert. There werent women allowed so it was a little controversial there. Young muslim people like our culture. They like our music. They might have to listen to it privately but if i were a politician and there are some new people on the scene, President Trump, macron, theresa may, why not refute some of these musicians to actually help . Call upon their patriotism. Put on some big event. They actually have the power to reach a lot more people than we do. Kimberly should we call Justin Bieber . Jesse thatll solve everything. Greg that would be interesting. They had these amazingly historical concerts live aid. For Global Warming and Climate Change. Celebrities can shop for that. But why not for this . Juan i am surprised you described bono as courageous. He just spoke common sense. Greg but that is courageous. Juan ive been here whens. You guys say these people, these artists are speaking out about Climate Change orn discrimination. Who listens to them . Greg because that is easy, juan. Evil slimy people who want to kill us. Is that so hard to say . You have to get away from the simple kind of if bono says that, weve made a breakthrough. We have to find an effective way to combat. This is an age where we have too effectively produce our own positive images to contradict the idea that they are going to be martyred, that they are smarter or being courageous when they do horrific acts like we saw in manchester. Jesse i think what you are saying is, you want an all hands on deck philosophy. If its just republicans or just right wing people leading the charge against isis, the country is not unified in the rest of the left is sitting around listening to katy perry and twiddling their thumbs. If you can get someone like bono or Ariana Grande to say hey, this is evil, you can rally people who dont pay attention. Thats a good thing. Juan after 9 11 you are describing how people rallied. President bushs ratings were up through the roof. Not only could you be in republican enclaves and see support, you could be in democratic enclaves and see support. President bush spoke about that when he was driving up to yankee stadium. Everybody is behind. Thats what we need here. What you hear is people say its the immigrants. We have to slow down immigration. I think thats the wrong approach. Greg i think we need a crackdown on the left to have created relativism. We have gone down a dark, bad road where people are incapable or judging evil. For fearing of being accused of bigotry. When people call the hotline, nobody listened. Juan who is afraid of condemning bigotry . Greg who is afraid of condemning bigotry . Juan condemning bigotry and terrorism . I dont think thats there. Greg when you condemn it radical islam, you are called islamophobia. Mn people are scared of being smeared. Juan i dont think thats true. C jesse did that happen to you on a plane . When someone comes on a plane and they are dressed a certain way you can get fired for that. Greg thats real islamophobia. Kimberly oh, my gosh. Juan thats real what i think is, when you get these people i think thats who people need, especially inec the arab world thats what greg what more do you need for a call to action than someone slaughtering young girls . In the 70s, we had people come to our classroom to teache us about cults. It is the time of jim jones and sla and all these weird movements. We were scared out of our wits. Jesse how old are you . Greg i am a young. 52. The point is, we arent doing that. Someone had written to me and said how do we talk to kids about this . Say that we have a planet ofhi human beings and within that planet there is a roving army that seeks to destroy. Its that simple. Kimberly you can talk to kids. My son, ronan, he had a really good idea. I think we have to go and bomb them. I know you would do a very good job to get them, if they dropped you as a bomb. Jesse what a sweet kid. Greg morrisseys other point, morrissey is an unusual guy. Y. A militant vegan. If he has a concert, every single vendor cannot have meat there. It causes major hell. Not only did he go after the mayor of london for not condemning radical islam or isis, he also went after the Prime Minister and said its easy to be tolerant when you are protected. Jesse they dont take public transportation. They havee bodyguards. Juan for all your praise, exactly what is the real prescription to solving this problem . N greg last night i gave you a great prescription. Juan you were up to relativism. To me dana juan juan lets talk about what really is going to stop. We have to get beyond what the pop stars are going to do. Greg im pointing out how refreshing it is to hear this. Juan whenever they Say Something you like its good. Whenever they condemn it, its bad. Greg the point is to call out it radical islam and risk being called a bigot. Thats the gutsiest move you can make. When everyone calls you islamophobic, you say so what . I dont care. Understand you live in a modern world and freedom and security go together. Juan yeah, i think most americans agree with you. Ec i dont think people like being called haters of people. Greg exactly. Kimberly you are making his point. T. Greg islamophobia is a term designed to shut people down. Its time to save kimberly it is designed to shame and silence. And to censor the people who dont want to get involved who want to be something in to something. Juan you are very sensitive when people attacking christians in the middle east. Kimberly everybody should be. Everyone should bee sensitive o religious persecution. Greg there isnt a radical sect of christians beheading people. You are comparing radical with islam. You are the bigot. Juan you said islamophobia. Thats the fear of islamicai people. Jesse islamophobia didnt kill little children in manchester, juan. Juan i agree. Greg i said to get comfortable with the accusation. When someone says you are being islamophobic for going after radical islam, you say so what, what do you got . Kimberly dont let the word or the label hurt you. Jesse you are out of control. Kimberly he is afraid of islamophobia. Dana there is lots of things we can do. One of them is culturalia diplomacy. It works verygs well. The state department has an entire office that they use to try to spread the message is that we want to deliver. We should support them. I think the new politicians that are meeting this friday or tomorrow in brussels at nato Work Together and try to bring something together. Greg brussels. There is a protest against donald trump, a march against donald trump in brussels. Where is your march radical islam . Brussels, where there are terrorists and cells in belgium. They are having a protest against trump. 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When you see Something Like what happened two days ago, you realize how important it is toto win this fight. We will win this fight. Its a horrible situation. What took place is horrible. Unthinkable. But we will win, 100 . Is kimberly British Police made several arrests today. They took the bombers brother and father. Authorities are still on the hunt for the terrace to make the bomb that killed 22 people and injured dozens of others. Joining us now is chief national correspondent, ed henry. Ed. There is a desperate search for the bomb maker that involves not just the British Police but also their military. Just how intense the situationt is at this very hour. Isis took responsibility for the attack at manchester arena, ive spoken to people inside the Trump Administration were deeply concerned that the terrorist he made the bomb that killed so many people is still at large. And could mastermind another attack at any time, their assessment is the suicide bomber who died in the attack, salman abedi, he had recently visited libya where he could have gotten trained but it was essentially a ecmule. Who was outside the arena and set off that bomb that was put together by someone else who is on the run righte now. They are trying to move in on the bomb maker with a series of raids. Stretching from u. K. To libya,ey where abedis brother and father were detained. His older brother was one of several people taken into custody in the u. K. All of this is why the british Prime Minister theresa may has increased u. K. Terror level from severe to critical. Even sending British Army Troops to guard major landmarks like 10 downing street, west minister, buckingham palace. The spirit of manchester is faro mightier than sick plots of depraved terrorists. Although there is real concern tonight about that bomb maker still at large. Kimberly thank you for that update. Dana, you made a comment earlier talking about children, parents sending their children to these concerts. A this man, this teent him to dien dana right. Thats also something Benjamin Netanyahu said after remarks in israel. He said if terrorists had actually been attacking a jewish child, you wonder if the Prime Minister would have said the same thing about terrorism a being so awful. The thing about that libya connection is very troubling. Al qaeda and isis have both been trying to expand. Theyve been frustrated that isis has been getting so much attention. You have thousands of migrants leaving through italy. We know how to have a ton of resources to find this one guy and all the other ones we are trying to find. We are asking a tremendous amount from our intelligence community. Isis first claimed responsibility and said there were 30 dead. Pretty easy to check news reports, it could be we are seeing a metamorphosis or a combination or a merger between isis or some sort of way they are utilizing these young people and dont even realize its happening. We could say its actually evolving even more. Kimberly very good point. Greg, what do we do here . Tremendous resources, they can hit them there. What about here . Greg all Police Officers should get guns. The fact that they dont have guns. Nothing that would have prevented this but you mightha have an edge if you have guns. Also you have to acknowledge theres a network involved which rejects the lone wolf assumption that we always go by. The network wants us to adopt the lone wolf assumption because if you only believe in lone wolves, he dont look for the network. Whenever you hear the lone wolf story, say for now that something to entertain. His return was a red flag. We have to think about that. Who is in charge of watching the red flags . Do we need more people in charge . Should we hire more and create a bigger industry . I returned to my earlier point, Political Correctness prevents you from focusing on obvious risks because that would be bigoted. You cannot profile. If you profile, you are done. Au kimberly so true. Political correctness its making us weak. Jesse it is true. Political correctness kills. Were talking about refugees. Extreme vetting. Tn the trump travel ban targeted libya. Family members who are implicated, trump was criticized for raising the issue. Whether or not to take these guys out. Lets talk about whats really going on here. This happened from libya. President obama and Hillary Clinton toppled gaddafi. They led from failed state because they didnt win the piece. Now theres training groundse there. Is obama or hillary responsible for the failed state and libya . Obama withdrew from iraq and created a vacuum where isis took over. Is he accountable for that . He didnt enforce a redline in syria. Which is now infecting earth. Is obama responsible for that . No one is the same this is all the aftermath of the failed foreign policy. Thats not the issue. Not the issue at all, juan. Juan let me help you. Lock him up. What kind of foolishness is this . . Its not a failed foreign policy. I think the situation has changed. It has changed. Greg its