The people they did 60 years ago. If our agency look at this latest creep in 2016 but they let him go. Do you want to bet it was based on space, that he wasnt worth a bed . We must the media footprint of killers. Creeps obsess over the fame of previous creeps. Its their drug. Lets take away that drug. We need to think all offensively. Instead of asking how do we rig the system to stop perps from getting guns. Ask how do we tag the purpose and keep them from getting guns. We want to get the bad eggs, not the lawabiding ones. Florida was preventable. Red flags, perfect for a database of the nuts and perps who shouldnt get guns. This guy had no violent felonies or civil tag is what couldve nailed him based on testimony from cops, students, school officials, a judge could issue a simple court order. Rather than defectively cast a wide net that catches tons of fish we dont want, you tag the right people who are placed into one single database along with violent felons. If you are in it, no gun. You violate the database, thats mandatory prison time. So this isnt just seeing something, say something, its actually do something. By all means, protest. But it wont do much when you are targeting the haystack while letting the needle slip through. We learned about the fbi screwup, kimberly. Now about this Florida Mental Health agency, that it examined this guy in 2016 but they didnt hospitalize him. The article i read didnt say why but im assuming if there was room for him, why not hold him for 72 hours. They didnt even do that. Kimberly thats the problem. Theyre going to have to do some analysis on that, talk to the people in charge, the supervisor on duty, who had contact with him and made that determination. Thats the only way we are going to get better. Unless you do these kinds of thoughtful, deliberate, deep probing investigations. To figure out how we can do it better for the next time because this cannot continue to happen, especially when someone is basically screaming out for help, presenting these problems, having this violent ideation, saying they want to become a school shooter, they have the weapons in amenability to do so. They go in front of a Mental Health professional. The fbi has them on the screen. It wasnt on one level this was a fail, it was multiple levels people could have caught this. Maybe 72 hours. Greg self harming, snap chats. This guy has more red flags and a red flag factory. We talked about vegas, i dont know how we could have prevented that. That guy capitalize on obscurity. No one knew. This is a guy telling you what hes going to do and nobody listens. Juan the question is whether or not you take him seriously and his civil liberties. What we know is going back to the 80s and earlier, the day d institutionalized people and said folks have a right to not have their freedoms taken away because you deem them to be some help mentally incompetent. We are not sure who you are picking on, who you are not picking on. I couldnt agree with you more. I think its a danger, increasing danger to society when you have so many not only people who are of a murderous instinct. But i think we have high rates of people who, for example, veterans who have traumatic syndrome as Homeless People. I see more Homeless People all over the country than ever. I think thats a lot of Mental Illness. I will say its great the young people are willing to march in washington. I think hopefully it will change the tenor of the debate. Maybe if young people are saying youve got to do something, it will appeal to people who, as you point outcome are locked into own, you are going to take my guns. Gun owners, nra members think background checks can be done better. President trump has said today, or his aides of said, he is interested in doing something to strengthen the background checks. Greg these suggestions i made, i think david french wrote a good piece for National Review on dana gun violence restraining orders. Greg from the conservative libertarian side. No one trusted coming from the other side because everybody is so we hear the dog whistle that they are coming to the guns away. Jesse it is true. A pre9 11 mindset when it comes to school shootings. After 9 11, everyone realized they were the agencies werent sharing anything with each other. And i have the police, school, department of children and family. Everybody knows something, even the fbi, no one is sharing this information. You look at a threat matrix on a kid like this. Hes diagnosed autistic, depressed, mentally unstable by the agency that looked at him and someone who is an at risk adults because of mental instability. He was develop mentally disabled. You have a mobile crisis unit dispatched to the school. Hes expelled for violent behavior at the school. The police are called dozens of times to the house. If you add that up, all those different things, you say if someone qualifies for 60 of all those things, then maybe they dont get a gun. Maybe you make them wait a few years before hes able to purchase a weapon like that at that age. Obviously we need gun control but it wouldnt be taking guns away from people. Or not manufacturing the hour 15. Cant even band bump stocks after vegas. But we should do these background checks and make sure the information shared appropriately. Greg whenever gun control, the lawabiding gun owner thinks its about them. The idea is to switch it. No, its most like stop and frisk Corporation Community policing applied to this. Dana i think so and i think its not necessarily a congressional move here. States are the policy innovators. This is mostly estates state right issue. You could do that in tallahassee. That could happen in florida. Or you might do it in another state and its an experiment. Thats where the experience exs happens, in the states. Sometimes the federal governments will do things like type transportation funds in order to get a state to comply with Something Like the drinking age or something. If this were to work in a certain place, you could try it out somewhere. You have somebody like the mother from connecticut at sandy hook. She tried to get help. She didnt know where to go. Theres real concern about cuts to medicaid which is where a lot of people get their Mental Health help if they are going to get any. I hadnt heard the autism diagnosis. I think i dont know enough about it. There is a tendency to extrapolate that into others. I would say on the communication standpoint, the kids staying in this story makes it very hard for the media to ignore it. They know that. I think theyve been pretty smart. They are working together, using social networks in order to gather not just in tallahassee. They are calling for a march on march 24. That sounds weird. A march in march. March 24. The more they stay in the story, its harder for people to ignore but i dont necessarily think this is just a congressional issue. I think you can get more done faster at the state level. Greg i think the media doesnt have to be this is a highly visual protest, especially if its going to be nationwide and the womens march is going to get behind it which is going to raise suspicions that its a political event and a liberal one. Thats an error. And an error to doc about repealing the Second Amendment because thats not going to happen. But you hear that. I think the media may be focused why he wasnt placed in the hospital. How did the fbi dropped the ball as well as these protests. Kimberly you want to make sure its not going to be a direct, full on assault on the Second Amendment. Given the political differences and ideological differences, to try to use this as a vehicle to try to confiscate guns. There are situations where somebody can just make a complaint against your neighbor or Something Like that and then you have to be very careful. Dana it will be like once you get on the list, how would you in order to get off of i it. I think one of the states could start this. Greg if its a civil tag, that means the bars lower. Its about these people. Its about the guy you know. Its like nobody knows what to do with the problem. Jesse kimberly mentioned that a state agency visited this guy after he was posting pictures on social media of him cutting himself and saying he wanted to do violence and buy a gun. He was wearing long sleeves of the time and the reason they didnt commit him was because they never checked and looked at his sleeves. Pull your sleeves up. Pathetic visit by that state agency. Kimberly thats what happens. They are pressed and they have so many occasions and they do a rush. I wont even tell you. They didnt check a little girl had been beaten. Her scalloped was duct taped. Greg juan, you brought up vets. When 9 11 happened, the planes hit the towers, airports were changed forever. We got the tsa. Our children are getting hit. Its time to change the schools forever. Theres a population of there. I didnt have a new stance but last years stats for. 3 unemployment for returning vets in this country. 435,000 trained men who have eyes and ears. We need to have them at the schools. Greg i think its a great idea. Juan the criticism is if you police the schools so intensely, then everything a young person does becomes a criminal act rather than a teenager acting up. All of a sudden, now theres a criminal record. Essentially you are institutionalizing a school in a way that i dont think schools are intended. Dana if i understand what tyrus is saying, they wouldnt be there in order to have disciplinary action oversight. They would be there to protect. Juan that would be ideal boat if you have police there, then i think the School Authorities dana the vets wouldnt be police. Juan the bigger point is basically people get locked in to their political boxes right here. People will say youre coming from my guns. To my mind, when i think about the nra and its role here, i dont see how you get away from it because they are so heavily politicized and they put so many dollars into republican candidates. They backed republicans. Jesse i think the nra influence is a little overrated. Planned parenthood puts a lot more money. If any president could do something on this issue, i think donald trump good. Very, very supportive of the Second Amendment and if he wants to give a little on background checks come i think the country would be open to it. Juan absolutely. The question is would his right wing be open to it. With the nra be open to it . I think so many of the case of gun owners are single issue voters, and thats the only issue. They see the whole world through that prism and are easily threatened. I think if trump, others at the nra would say listen, heres a reasonable step we can get behind, it would make a huge difference because remember, we didnt get bump stocks. We havent had any added steps in terms of the Mental Illness issue that greg is talking about today. Medicare, as dana was talking about, less opportunities for coverage for Mental Health issues. To me, this is staring us in the face. We dont need to wonder about it. Greg we havent had good, Practical Solutions from the loudest voices. 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He fired off more than a dozen tweets after the special counsels indictment of russians from meddling with our election. He also, continuing his terror on president obama. Obama was president up to, and beyond, the 2016 election. So why didnt he do something about russian meddling . I have said the Obama Administration should have done more. We couldnt get them to acknowledge the russian interference. They were wary of appearing to be putting their hand on the scale and the election. Now they did make an acknowledgment of the following month but i dont think that was sufficient. Kimberly dana, interesting. Strange bedfellows. Dana thumb on the scale, not hand on the scale. Greg he has tiny hands. Dana [laughs] on the Obama Administration, thats one of the underreported stories of the last year. While theres been a huge focus on the mueller probe, that if you go back to now we know in 2014 that was one when russia started going after us. At the same time they are invading ukraine. The Obama Administration would say we were focused on the fact that we were trying to protect the actual people. They dont get ahead of this one. History will have to decide what it will on that front. A lot of people on the democratic side very frustrated that not more was done. I look back and think i dont know what more could have been done in the middle of it. I understand the sensitivity about not getting in the middle of the election and acting like the russians were trying to help President Trump and it would look like obama was trying to help hillary. Thats another reason why there are a lot of people that want mueller to finish his investigation at least by the late spring. The later you get, then youre getting involved in another election, the midterm elections of 2018. On the other front, i think talking about the fbi being distracted by doing too much on russia and thats why it couldnt prevent 17 children from being murdered, a fine line for a pundit. Not a good one for a president. If the president believes that the mueller indictment of the 13 russians was a good news for him, let it sit. Instead it stirred the pot even more and made the story last through the weekend. Greg i have advice for democrats and republicans. For democrats, im going to use an olympic metaphor. When you are a curler, thats are not your fulltime job. It would be foolish to pin all of your hopes and dreams on being a curler. Those skills are not transferable. Especially if you lose, you are quickly forgotten. The democrats kimberly people not following. Greg curling. The democrats, the collusion obsession is curling. Unlike the athlete, they dont have a backup. They need a backup. If they are planning everything on a very specific event like russian collusion with a low chance of path, theyre going to lose big. For the republicans, last year, i said do not take satisfactions of russians hacking of dnc or john podesta because its going to happen to all of us. The russians do not play favorites. They play the hand they have. They were going after the democrats and rnc but it was easier on the democrats. Its not about territory. Its about broadband. People bring up paper ballots. We talked about this, to combat this intrusion. We dont have that remedy for our Banking System. We dont have paper ballots for our Banking System or the electric grid. When somebody hacked that stuff, then its over. Thats what scares me. Its not about the marginal attacks on the election system, we do that already. We do that to ourselves. We are as negative as they are to ourselves. I am worried about what happens when they paralyze our Banking System, you cant get money out of your atm. We all end up robbing each other. Greg i thought you keep it in your mattress. Greg i do. My pillow. Kimberly its gone. Greg eyes sleep on nothing but my pillows. Jesse russia should have helped hillary. Obama was soft on russia. He let them take over ukraine. He gave the iranians a billion dollars or so in cash. They ran wild during his administration. Trump comes in. Energy is soaring. We are beating them in the energy production. We sent missiles on their doorstep to syria. We slapped him sanctions on them. I think we are overstating the whole issue when it comes to this interference. They spent 40,000 on facebook ads. Hillary and trump spent 81 million. If you talk about the propaganda injected into the election, think about the corruption that really happens. Cnn, donna brazile, gave information, questions to hillary beforehand. Nbc leaked the locker room talk tape. There was a lot of really dirty stuff that went on through media and hillary. The dossier is more impactful than a few russian bots on twitter. That affected the entire Mainstream Media. They reported trump was a traitor the last three months of the election. Imagine if donald trump had paid a Foreign Agent millions of dollars to bring russian dirt and pump it into fox news and smear hillary as a traitor, he wouldve been the biggest cold or ever. Hillary actually did that on the other side and no one wants to talk about it. Juan what stands out to me this afternoon is that the president over the weekend went on a twitter rage. He was upset about something and he is blaming democrats. He is blaming th